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'Careless' foreman crushes woman, 19, with backhoe at Bexar County construction[W:53]

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So you have no idea.
Of course not, as do you, apply some common sense please.

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Re: 'Careless' foreman crushes woman, 19, with backhoe at Bexar County construction s

Did you read the link I posted for you?

Yes...that's why I mentioned the the "mangler."
 
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Re: 'Careless' foreman crushes woman, 19, with backhoe at Bexar County construction s

Of course not, as do you, apply some common sense please.

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I thought that your experience might be able to suggest some of the likely scenarios.
 
Re: 'Careless' foreman crushes woman, 19, with backhoe at Bexar County construction s

I thought that your experience might be able to suggest some of the likely scenarios.
Not nearly enough info in that article. The victims families always claim someone else is responsible ( and they may be correct) on the other hand no one ever wants to admit they did something stupid and killed themselves. I also contract to the feds for wildfire suppression here in the west and hire a number of young men or women and I can assure you vast majority do not much at ages 19. I know the vast majority of people if they are honest with themselves know half as much at 29 then they did at 19. If I were to guess ( this is a pure guess) inexperience on her part probably coupled with something with the operator. Working in a ditch line always requires eye to eye contact or at least know where everyone is at all times .I already know she and the operator failed on this point as nothing should have happened until this happened. She is partially responsible if she placed herself in a position without the operator knowing where she was or even if he did, she allowed herself to be placed in position to kill herself. Sad... Google the top 10 most dangerous jobs on American. ( it ain't the fire dept or any other government job not counting the military) these are the people that build this country and never get credit for anything.... the so called heroes of the country don't even make the top ten.... funny country it is anymore...

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Re: 'Careless' foreman crushes woman, 19, with backhoe at Bexar County construction s

These people have no right to complain, if they don't want to die, they should find another job.

Its texas, they have a right to work, not a right to safety.

o for ****s sake
 
Re: 'Careless' foreman crushes woman, 19, with backhoe at Bexar County construction s

I don't speak legalese, but would not having workers comp insurance mean that businesses would have to pay any damages directly after/before lawsuits/settlements instead of passing those costs to an insurance group? If so, I'm not sure how workers would suffer more or less except for insurance companies potentially requiring higher standards of safety behavior to remain insured.

It seems like last time I was in Texas there was no lack of lawyers willing to take on workplace injury cases. About every other billboard and t.v. ad I saw was for one.

For construction companies I expect the trend is to go bankrupt and open up under another name shortly after any serious incident that will cost lots of money from lawsuits

Happened to my mother when my father died from a workplace accident, the company went "broke" shortly after, so no lawsuit
 
Re: 'Careless' foreman crushes woman, 19, with backhoe at Bexar County construction s

He injured this 19-year old girl a week before crushing her to death...?

Murder #1.

The **** is wrong with you?

Deep philosophical commitment to the principle of evil.
 
Re: 'Careless' foreman crushes woman, 19, with backhoe at Bexar County construction s

Yes...that's why I mentioned the the "mangler."

I think he's speaking technically. "Death Trap" is not a term you'll find defined in an OSHA manual.
 
Re: 'Careless' foreman crushes woman, 19, with backhoe at Bexar County construction s

I think he's speaking technically. "Death Trap" is not a term you'll find defined in an OSHA manual.


I'm pretty sure a mangler machine would fit the technical definition of a pinch point...


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Re: 'Careless' foreman crushes woman, 19, with backhoe at Bexar County construction s

Horrible. This is the kind of thing that should NEVER EVER happen. And yet it does.

Safety regulations are often counter productive.

Rule 1; look out. Be aware of what is going on. Especially look out for bricklayers in forklifts, deadly.
 
Re: 'Careless' foreman crushes woman, 19, with backhoe at Bexar County construction s

I'm pretty sure a mangler machine would fit the technical definition of a pinch point...

Was that picture really necessary? Your post didn't even address my main point.
 
Re: 'Careless' foreman crushes woman, 19, with backhoe at Bexar County construction s

Was that picture really necessary? Your post didn't even address my main point.

If your main point was to question if I understood what he meant by pinch point, then my post amply addressed your point.
 
Re: 'Careless' foreman crushes woman, 19, with backhoe at Bexar County construction s

If your main point was to question if I understood what he meant by pinch point, then my post amply addressed your point.

You could have simply said: "he was right, a piece of equipment and the ground would be a pinch point" instead of posting a graphic picture.
 
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