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Men discussed opening fire at pro-gun rally in Richmond, say officials

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Men discussed opening fire at pro-gun rally in Richmond, say officials | TheHill

Three suspected neo-Nazis who were arrested this week in Maryland and Delaware discussed opening fire at a scheduled pro-gun rally Monday at Virginia's state Capitol, according to local law officials.

Three other men were also arrested in Georgia this week and have been linked to the same group as the men who allegedly planned the attack at Virginia capitol.
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All six of the men are believed to be connected to a violent, white supremacist group called "the Base," The Wall Street Journal reports. The Georgia trio was arrested Wednesday for conspiring to murder a Georgia couple.
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These guys were quite active in planning & organizing their activities. Opening fire in a crowd in front of the VA State House might have been a lot worse outcome than Charlottesville.
 
How many black people or liberals at a pro-gun rally? Not sure they thought that one through. To be clear, I know there are many pro-gun black people, but going to such a rally has got to be risky. A Confederate flag will most assuredly make an appearance among the crowd.


White supremacist groups should be declared terrorist organizations.
 
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JacksinPA said:
Men discussed opening fire at pro-gun rally in Richmond, say officials | TheHill

Three suspected neo-Nazis who were arrested this week in Maryland and Delaware discussed opening fire at a scheduled pro-gun rally Monday at Virginia's state Capitol, according to local law officials.

Three other men were also arrested in Georgia this week and have been linked to the same group as the men who allegedly planned the attack at Virginia capitol.
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All six of the men are believed to be connected to a violent, white supremacist group called "the Base," The Wall Street Journal reports. The Georgia trio was arrested Wednesday for conspiring to murder a Georgia couple.
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These guys were quite active in planning & organizing their activities. Opening fire in a crowd in front of the VA State House might have been a lot worse outcome than Charlottesville.
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Those guys are getting more active. A couple days ago a Canadian neo-Nazi member of 'the Base' was arrested in Maryland with two American comrades. Weapons charges, including 'being an alien in possession of firearms'.


Edit- on rereading your OP we might be talking about the same incident.
 
JacksinPA said:
Men discussed opening fire at pro-gun rally in Richmond, say officials | TheHill

Three suspected neo-Nazis who were arrested this week in Maryland and Delaware discussed opening fire at a scheduled pro-gun rally Monday at Virginia's state Capitol, according to local law officials.

Three other men were also arrested in Georgia this week and have been linked to the same group as the men who allegedly planned the attack at Virginia capitol.
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All six of the men are believed to be connected to a violent, white supremacist group called "the Base," The Wall Street Journal reports. The Georgia trio was arrested Wednesday for conspiring to murder a Georgia couple.
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These guys were quite active in planning & organizing their activities. Opening fire in a crowd in front of the VA State House might have been a lot worse outcome than Charlottesville.
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:lol: they named themselves after a Muslim group :lol:
 
I'll report back how it all went. Me and several friends are going. I certainly have my safety concerns, but quite frankly Northam (and the General Assembly) is going way too far, and he's doing it in my backyard.
 
cpwill said:
:lol: they named themselves after a Muslim group :lol:
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Really? Which group? I could use a chuckle.

Just off the top this reminds me of the Tea Party, a right-wing group naming themselves after a bunch of liberal activists.
 
The talk that there will a "boogaloo" there by various militia's is very scary.
 
Grand Mal said:
Really? Which group? I could use a chuckle.

Just off the top this reminds me of the Tea Party, a right-wing group naming themselves after a bunch of liberal activists.
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The English translation of "al-Qaeda" is "the Base".
 
JacksinPA said:
Men discussed opening fire at pro-gun rally in Richmond, say officials | TheHill

Three suspected neo-Nazis who were arrested this week in Maryland and Delaware discussed opening fire at a scheduled pro-gun rally Monday at Virginia's state Capitol, according to local law officials.

Three other men were also arrested in Georgia this week and have been linked to the same group as the men who allegedly planned the attack at Virginia capitol.
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All six of the men are believed to be connected to a violent, white supremacist group called "the Base," The Wall Street Journal reports. The Georgia trio was arrested Wednesday for conspiring to murder a Georgia couple.
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These guys were quite active in planning & organizing their activities. Opening fire in a crowd in front of the VA State House might have been a lot worse outcome than Charlottesville.
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Given that no good guys will have guns, it could be bad. Imagine, instead, half a dozen guys opening fire on thousands of legal gun owners.
 
ecofarm said:
How many black people or liberals at a pro-gun rally? Not sure they thought that one through. To be clear, I know there are many pro-gun black people, but going to such a rally has got to be risky. A Confederate flag will most assuredly make an appearance among the crowd.


White supremacist groups should be declared terrorist organizations.
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can't agree
they are Constitutionally entitled to their hateful, extremist, backward opinions ... and should enjoy the free speech provisions to express them
 
justabubba said:
can't agree
they are Constitutionally entitled to their hateful, extremist, backward opinions ... and should enjoy the free speech provisions to express them
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They're invariably violent organizations. Millions of victims is enough.

If there was an organization of Muslim supremacists that ran people over with cars at rallies, they'd be a terrorist organization.

People can be white supremacists, but no groups.
 
ecofarm said:
They're invariably violent organizations. Millions of victims is enough.

If there was an organization of Muslim supremacists that ran people over with cars at rallies, they'd be a terrorist organization.

People can be white supremacists, but no groups.
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White supremacist groups should be declared terrorist organizations.
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i was under the impression you were educated to recognize that believing a white supremacist ideology does not entail an adherent to run over people with cars
people can and do believe in white supremacy without becoming violent actors
 
justabubba said:
i was under the impression you were educated to recognize that believing a white supremacist ideology does not entail an adherent to run over people with cars
people can and do believe in white supremacy without becoming violent actors
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All white supremacist organizations commit violence. White supremacists are responsible for millions of murders and genocide. Enough is enough. People can be whatever they want, but they are not free to join terrorist groups. Should we allow Al Qaeda to have chapters in the US?

Why are no AlQ chapters allowed in the US? Taliban? Why not. Freedom?

The right of the public to peace and security outweighs the right of supremacists to organize. Just like AlQ and the Taliban.
 
Parrish said:
The talk that there will a "boogaloo" there by various militia's is very scary.
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Funny. Between a state whose police forces are increasingly indistinguishable from military forces attempting to strip away citizens' ability to defend themselves, and the idea of those citizens defending themselves....

...I sort of find the first scarier than the second, though certainly the second can agreeably contain chaos.
 
justabubba said:
can't agree
they are Constitutionally entitled to their hateful, extremist, backward opinions ... and should enjoy the free speech provisions to express them
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Exactly. Even putting aside the foolishness of the notion that Government can be trusted to reliably identify and suppress "dangerous" thought, the power you give the State to suppress the thoughts you don't like will be the powers used one day to suppress you.
 
American said:
I'll report back how it all went. Me and several friends are going. I certainly have my safety concerns, but quite frankly Northam (and the General Assembly) is going way too far, and he's doing it in my backyard.
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Would love to have eyes on the ground there reporting what actually happens. Hope it remains peaceful but it may come down to whatever other groups decide to show up and the actions of law enforcement. Be safe.
 
ecofarm said:
How many black people or liberals at a pro-gun rally? Not sure they thought that one through. To be clear, I know there are many pro-gun black people, but going to such a rally has got to be risky. A Confederate flag will most assuredly make an appearance among the crowd.


White supremacist groups should be declared terrorist organizations.
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Casper said:
Would love to have eyes on the ground there reporting what actually happens. Hope it remains peaceful but it may come down to whatever other groups decide to show up and the actions of law enforcement. Be safe.
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I was there all day, and there are many reports out already with the truth about what happened. Nothing controversial happened. There was apparently one arrest because someone wouldn't remove a face covering or shawl for police when asked. There were many many people there with face coverings for the cold weather. There many people there armed to different degrees. There were many blacks, some Asians and even a tiny group of Dems who support the NRA. I didn't keep count, but many more than one or two. Clearly a minority, but definitely had a presence. I never saw any Antifa types or other anti-gunners. Well I did see a single dude walking down the street with a cardboard sign that said "Gun laws save lives". Probably a counter to the "Guns save lives" stickers the Virginia Citizen Defense League (VCDL) was handing out to everyone. People were polite, even saying "Excuse me" to each other as they moved in cramped spaces. The place wasn't trashed up at all, like some rallies by other groups have done. It was fun. We had a buffet breakfast at one of the hotels right there. I was part of a group of six friends that went. I had other friends that went, but did not have a chance to meet them. We stopped for a beer in Williamsburg on the way home.

The headlines leading up to the rally couldn't have been more wrong. The VCDL has been holding this rally on MLK Day since around 2002, maybe earlier in a less formal mode.
 
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