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Men discussed opening fire at pro-gun rally in Richmond, say officials

cpwill said:
? Last I checked, you can definitely still say and believe radical islamist things in this country.

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Remind me who we targeted after 9/11? Al qaeda
 
cpwill said:
? Last I checked, you can definitely still say and believe radical islamist things in this country.

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Can you be working with al-qaeda? The Base is a terrorist org and atomwaffen division is a terrorist org.
 
JacksinPA said:
Men discussed opening fire at pro-gun rally in Richmond, say officials | TheHill

Three suspected neo-Nazis who were arrested this week in Maryland and Delaware discussed opening fire at a scheduled pro-gun rally Monday at Virginia's state Capitol, according to local law officials.

Three other men were also arrested in Georgia this week and have been linked to the same group as the men who allegedly planned the attack at Virginia capitol.
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All six of the men are believed to be connected to a violent, white supremacist group called "the Base," The Wall Street Journal reports. The Georgia trio was arrested Wednesday for conspiring to murder a Georgia couple.
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These guys were quite active in planning & organizing their activities. Opening fire in a crowd in front of the VA State House might have been a lot worse outcome than Charlottesville.
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And they chose not to do so because all those legal gun owners who are law abiding loyal Americans were all carrying and they would have met a bad end if they had made such a stupid mistake. Good guys with guns trump bad guys with guns.
 
bomberfox said:
Remind me who we targeted after 9/11? Al qaeda
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Yeah. "Murdering thousands of People" =\= "Speech". People in the US believe as AQ does, and do not have their rights removed.
 
cpwill said:
Yeah. "Murdering thousands of People" =\= "Speech". People in the US believe as AQ does, and do not have their rights removed.
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That is exactly what klansmen and the base do and signal their intention to do on a daily basis. We can stop them if we gave a damn but all we hear is “ignore” despite white supremacy being the biggest motivator of terrorist activity lately. We went after terrorist cells in the US back in the day and we are refusing to screen for them in military positions.
 
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bomberfox said:
That is exactly what klansmen and the base do and signal their intention to do on a daily basis.
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Members of the KKK are killing thousands of Americans in a daily basis?

Well, if so, then yes, we would absolutely hunt down and arrest or kill as appropriate the individuals doing so.

We can stop them if we gave a damn but all we hear is “ignore” despite white supremacy being the biggest motivator of terrorist activity lately. We went after terrorist cells in the US back in the day and we are refusing to screen for them in military positions.
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No, we aren't. You are conflating "People who believe things I don't like" with "People who perform terrorist acts". If you perform a terrorist attack that - as you hyperbolically, hysterically, and hilariously claim - kills thousands of people, you go to prison or you die.

In the meantime, your attempt to assign blame to others who did not participate in or have knowledge of those actions, but who share similar characteristics, is no more intellectually credible than any OTHER attempt to assign group blame for individual actions (such as, for example, when white racists blame or suggest blame for all blacks in response to black on white crime).
 
cpwill said:
Members of the KKK are killing thousands of Americans in a daily basis?

Well, if so, then yes, we would absolutely hunt down and arrest or kill as appropriate the individuals doing so.



No, we aren't. You are conflating "People who believe things I don't like" with "People who perform terrorist acts". If you perform a terrorist attack that - as you hyperbolically, hysterically, and hilariously claim - kills thousands of people, you go to prison or you die.

In the meantime, your attempt to assign blame to others who did not participate in or have knowledge of those actions, but who share similar characteristics, is no more intellectually credible than any OTHER attempt to assign group blame for individual actions (such as, for example, when white racists blame or suggest blame for all blacks in response to black on white crime).
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Umm yeah no. If you join the kkk, you share in the blame for their actions as you would actively be aiding in their agenda and you would be involved in organized terrorism. All klan members are complicit and all neo nazis are complicit. There is no individual assessment here. The on a daily basis only included one of the claims. Every single klansman and every single person involved in these groups are part of terrorist groups yet no one calls them what they are. Sorry this is such a shocker and you can shove the “i dont like” bull**** as its just a non sequitur.

The most hilarious thing is you think black people as a group is appropriate for comparison when discussing the kkk.

The problem is also when people motivated by white supremacy commit mass shootings, we first go to mental illness. Why is that?
 
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bomberfox said:
If you join the kkk, you share in the blame for their actions as you would actively be aiding in their agenda and you would be involved in organized terrorism
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Funny. I know folks who feel the same way about Islam.


But, no. You are responsible for what you do or do not do. You are not responsible for what people who are like you do.


The on a daily basis only included one of the claims
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the two items available were "Speech" and "Murder thousands of people". If your argument

Sorry this is such a shocker and you can shove the “i dont like” bull**** as its just a non sequitur.
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:shrug: it's not a shocker. I've met plenty of bigots before.

The most hilarious thing is you think black people as a group is appropriate for comparison when discussing the kkk.
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:shrug: irrational bigotry is irrational bigotry.

The problem is also when people motivated by white supremacy commit mass shootings, we first go to mental illness. Why is that?
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It's not exactly surprising to me that there would be heavy overlap between people who are mentally deficient and those who buy into violent white supremacy, but I'm also not certain that "we first go to mental illness". If there is one story media loves to tell, it's Evil White Racist Hurts Minorities, Probably Inspired By Conservatives.
 
Grand Mal said:
Those guys are getting more active. A couple days ago a Canadian neo-Nazi member of 'the Base' was arrested in Maryland with two American comrades. Weapons charges, including 'being an alien in possession of firearms'.


Edit- on rereading your OP we might be talking about the same incident.
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This eerily reminds me of the early days of Islamic terrorist groups. They are both filled with conservative religious, lonely, and desperate men who can't get laid. They are both angry enough to feed into weaponized propaganda which echos the same result. The only difference is what side of the pond they were born. People are afraid to point out that we must monitor these groups like we did to those islamic terrorist groups. They say they want the same end result... it's only a matter of time before it happens and I see nothing really stopping it.
 
NeverTrump said:
This eerily reminds me of the early days of Islamic terrorist groups. They are both filled with conservative religious, lonely, and desperate men who can't get laid. They are both angry enough to feed into weaponized propaganda which echos the same result. The only difference is what side of the pond they were born. People are afraid to point out that we must monitor these groups like we did to those islamic terrorist groups. They say they want the same end result... it's only a matter of time before it happens and I see nothing really stopping it.
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Many things that seemed like safely past and safely ignored are creeping back onstage. Nazis, racists, radical-right social activists, they're all feeling tolerable, admissible, heard. Entitled even.
Resistance needs to be emphatic.
 
NeverTrump said:
This eerily reminds me of the early days of Islamic terrorist groups. They are both filled with conservative religious, lonely, and desperate men who can't get laid. They are both angry enough to feed into weaponized propaganda which echos the same result. The only difference is what side of the pond they were born. People are afraid to point out that we must monitor these groups like we did to those islamic terrorist groups. They say they want the same end result... it's only a matter of time before it happens and I see nothing really stopping it.
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So you're going for dumbest post on the planet award. The only people who'll congratulate you will be leftwingers.

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