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Exclusive: U.S. miners' union to endorse two more Democrats in coal country

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-more-democrats-in-coal-country-idUSKBN1GY1YM

(Reuters) - The main U.S. coal miners’ union is set to endorse two Democrats running for Congress in West Virginia, two sources familiar with the matter said on Thursday - a boost for Democrats trying to win over a constituency that voted heavily for Republican Donald Trump in 2016.

The United Mine Workers of America on Friday will endorse Richard Ojeda for U.S. Representative in the state’s third district, as well as incumbent Senator Joe Manchin, a Democrat and former West Virginia governor, the sources said. They asked not to be named as they were discussing a confidential matter.
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JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-more-democrats-in-coal-country-idUSKBN1GY1YM

(Reuters) - The main U.S. coal miners’ union is set to endorse two Democrats running for Congress in West Virginia, two sources familiar with the matter said on Thursday - a boost for Democrats trying to win over a constituency that voted heavily for Republican Donald Trump in 2016.

The United Mine Workers of America on Friday will endorse Richard Ojeda for U.S. Representative in the state’s third district, as well as incumbent Senator Joe Manchin, a Democrat and former West Virginia governor, the sources said. They asked not to be named as they were discussing a confidential matter.
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A union endorsing Democrats?
 
Beaudreaux said:
A union endorsing Democrats?
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Republicans think Senator Joe Manchin can be beat. Now if Libs challenge him in the primary that will hurt him in Nov.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-more-democrats-in-coal-country-idUSKBN1GY1YM

(Reuters) - The main U.S. coal miners’ union is set to endorse two Democrats running for Congress in West Virginia, two sources familiar with the matter said on Thursday - a boost for Democrats trying to win over a constituency that voted heavily for Republican Donald Trump in 2016.

The United Mine Workers of America on Friday will endorse Richard Ojeda for U.S. Representative in the state’s third district, as well as incumbent Senator Joe Manchin, a Democrat and former West Virginia governor, the sources said. They asked not to be named as they were discussing a confidential matter.
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A coal minders union endorsing a democrat sounds like it amounts to the NRA,GOA or any other pro-2nd amendment group endorsing Hillary Clinton or Barrack Obama.
 
JANFU said:
Republicans think Senator Joe Manchin can be beat. Now if Libs challenge him in the primary that will hurt him in Nov.
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Joe Manchin is a better Republican than half the GOP member of the US House of Representatives. If he were in California he'd be labeled as a right wing fanatic. Anyone that thinks that Manchin is vulnerable in West Virginia is delusional and needs to find a job that involves frozen meat products on hot grills rather than politics.

I agree that if they Dems go left in WV, that could hurt them - badly. Look at the winning strategy in the PA-18th. Put a Blue Dog in and run all the way to the swearing in ceremony.
 
jet57 said:
So, what have the Republicans done FOR unions lately; anything?
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Seriously? Why, in today's world, would the GOP do anything at all for unions, being that the Republican Party believes in the rights of the individual to decide for themselves without coercion or force being put upon them? (Idiotic reproductive, sexual, or religious issues aside - yes I know the irony that's there)
 
Beaudreaux said:
Seriously? Why, in today's world, would the GOP do anything at all for unions, being that the Republican Party believes in the rights of the individual to decide for themselves without coercion or force being put upon them? (Idiotic reproductive, sexual, or religious issues aside - yes I know the irony that's there)
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And so the unions are supporting Democrats; big surprise there.

Your other comments on unions are simply baseless and ignorant.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Joe Manchin is a better Republican than half the GOP member of the US House of Representatives. If he were in California he'd be labeled as a right wing fanatic. Anyone that thinks that Manchin is vulnerable in West Virginia is delusional and needs to find a job that involves frozen meat products on hot grills rather than politics.

I agree that if they Dems go left in WV, that could hurt them - badly. Look at the winning strategy in the PA-18th. Put a Blue Dog in and run all the way to the swearing in ceremony.
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From what I gather, it used to be a Blue State, then a swing State, had 2 Dem Senators, now 1 and 1 each. He is running in a State that is getting redder and went heavy for Trump
 
JANFU said:
From what I gather, it used to be a Blue State, then a swing State, had 2 Dem Senators, now 1 and 1 each. He is running in a State that is getting redder and went heavy for Trump
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DONALD TRUMP HAS ONLY DELIVERED 1,200 COAL-MINING JOBS, DESPITE CLAIMING TO HAVE CREATED 45,000
Donald Trump Has Only Delivered 1,200 Coal-Mining Jobs, Despite Claiming to Have Created 45,000

People with empty wallets & stomachs won't vote red. Trump has lied to them. Coal is on the way out both from an environmental as well as an economic POV.
 
jet57 said:
And so the unions are supporting Democrats; big surprise there.
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That's exactly, and only, what I said in the post you quoted.

jet57 said:
Your other comments on unions are simply baseless and ignorant.
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If that's true, then you're right there also - see above.
 
JacksinPA said:
DONALD TRUMP HAS ONLY DELIVERED 1,200 COAL-MINING JOBS, DESPITE CLAIMING TO HAVE CREATED 45,000
Donald Trump Has Only Delivered 1,200 Coal-Mining Jobs, Despite Claiming to Have Created 45,000

People with empty wallets & stomachs won't vote red. Trump has lied to them. Coal is on the way out both from an environmental as well as an economic POV.
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Coal has been and is on its way out. NG is cheaper and cleaner. that said, Trump carried WV with 70 % of the vote. That said his numbers dropped to 51 approval. Still high.
 
JANFU said:
From what I gather, it used to be a Blue State, then a swing State, had 2 Dem Senators, now 1 and 1 each. He is running in a State that is getting redder and went heavy for Trump
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Back when coal was king, the unions were able to sway the votes of their members which made it a deep blue state. Now? Not so much. However, WV is still a state that has blue roots, and Manchin is enough red where it counts, and blue where the WV folks want him to be, that he's the perfect political combination for that particular state in a statewide election like US Senator, or governor.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-more-democrats-in-coal-country-idUSKBN1GY1YM

(Reuters) - The main U.S. coal miners’ union is set to endorse two Democrats running for Congress in West Virginia, two sources familiar with the matter said on Thursday - a boost for Democrats trying to win over a constituency that voted heavily for Republican Donald Trump in 2016.

The United Mine Workers of America on Friday will endorse Richard Ojeda for U.S. Representative in the state’s third district, as well as incumbent Senator Joe Manchin, a Democrat and former West Virginia governor, the sources said. They asked not to be named as they were discussing a confidential matter.
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More unions trying to influence elections... But I'll bet that you would cry yourself to sleep over the idea of a corporation doing the same thing....
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-more-democrats-in-coal-country-idUSKBN1GY1YM

(Reuters) - The main U.S. coal miners’ union is set to endorse two Democrats running for Congress in West Virginia, two sources familiar with the matter said on Thursday - a boost for Democrats trying to win over a constituency that voted heavily for Republican Donald Trump in 2016.

The United Mine Workers of America on Friday will endorse Richard Ojeda for U.S. Representative in the state’s third district, as well as incumbent Senator Joe Manchin, a Democrat and former West Virginia governor, the sources said. They asked not to be named as they were discussing a confidential matter.
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Well, I hope the democrats win and close the dumb ****s mines. Do’h!
 
jet57 said:
So, what have the Republicans done FOR unions lately; anything?
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Stimulated the economy over the last 6 years to create more jobs for union workers. But you'll never accept that, since it doesn't match what all your liberal friends told you was the truth.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Back when coal was king, the unions were able to sway the votes of their members which made it a deep blue state. Now? Not so much. However, WV is still a state that has blue roots, and Manchin is enough red where it counts, and blue where the WV folks want him to be, that he's the perfect political combination for that particular state in a statewide election like US Senator, or governor.
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Dems should learn from the PA election, that one can be either Pro Choice- or against abortion and still be a Democrat. They should have learned from the past 10 years that neglecting rural areas, their concerns were forgotten, gave the Republicans power in State Houses where Redistricting is made.

Next do not take your eye off the ball as Clinton did, and a few States, with a low number of votes gave the Presidency to Trump. IIRC she never went to Michigan?? Trying to gain voters in Georgia, ffn dumb, secure the base States first, any hint in polling that numbers are down, head there. Hubris of which HRC has far to much killed her. As much as I detest her, I preferred her over Trump. Better, and that ain't saying much of 2 really bad candidates.
Less harm to the country, to the US allies around the world, and the only way to contain China is with allies, big and small


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eople-in-three-states/?utm_term=.c5312ff9e96c

But, of course, none of this matters. All that matters is that Trump got more electoral college votes, thanks to having won more states. In many cases, those wins were much more narrow than Clinton's, which also helps power the gap between the electoral vote and the popular one. Trump won 18 states by fewer than 250,000 votes; Clinton, 13.

The most important states, though, were Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Trump won those states by 0.2, 0.7 and 0.8 percentage points, respectively — and by 10,704, 46,765 and 22,177 votes. Those three wins gave him 46 electoral votes; if Clinton had done one point better in each state, she'd have won the electoral vote, too.
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Exclusive: Trump's coal job push stumbles in most states - data
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...sh-stumbles-in-most-states-data-idUSKBN1F81AK

From mid-January:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump’s effort to put coal miners back to work stumbled in most coal producing states last year, even as overall employment in the downtrodden sector grew modestly, according to preliminary government data obtained by Reuters.

Trump made reviving the coal industry, and the declining communities that depend upon its jobs, a central tenet in his presidential campaign and has rolled back Obama-era environmental regulations to give the industry a boost.
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-more-democrats-in-coal-country-idUSKBN1GY1YM

(Reuters) - The main U.S. coal miners’ union is set to endorse two Democrats running for Congress in West Virginia, two sources familiar with the matter said on Thursday - a boost for Democrats trying to win over a constituency that voted heavily for Republican Donald Trump in 2016.

The United Mine Workers of America on Friday will endorse Richard Ojeda for U.S. Representative in the state’s third district, as well as incumbent Senator Joe Manchin, a Democrat and former West Virginia governor, the sources said. They asked not to be named as they were discussing a confidential matter.
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I find this quaint idea there is a difference between parties humorous. Nonetheless Trump's schematic for the "rust belt" was a game changer and likely political scientists of the future will credit him with having pulled it off.

Having said that, one needs a very stupid audience, poor, and seemingly desperate. Had West Virginia voters taken some time to review the facts, W.A would have gone Democrat.

Here is the reality:
Trump’s White House win in 2016 was due in part to his promise to revive the ailing coal industry, which has lost more than 40 percent of its work force in less than a decade, by rolling back environmental regulation. While his administration has chipped away at regulations, the coal sector remains in the doldrums, under pressure from cheaper and cleaner natural gas, more than a year into Trump’s presidency.
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"....under pressure from cheaper and cleaner natural gas, more than a year into Trump’s presidency.

The future of coal was determined ten years ago. It's dead. There will be no rising of Lazarus, for no one wants Lazarus to rise.

The strategy now, if the democrats are smart, if to build a realistic platform where instead of telling miners we'll get their jobs back, we will tell them we will get them better jobs, jobs for the future.

Canada's Liberals have been living off government sponsored training programs.

Sooner or later, all people in North America will have to accept that low paying heavy industry jobs are no more. If machines can't do it, there are billions in China, South Asia and India who will do it much cheaper.

Instead of subsidizing buggy whips, teach people to repair a computer
 
Mine closing wipes out many of Trump's coal job gains - Jan. 10, 2018

Mine closing wipes out many of Trump's coal job gains

Despite many promises from President Trump that he would bring back coal jobs, the industry has only added 500 jobs, or a 1% increase, during his first year in office.
And now a coal mine near the Pennsylvania-West Virginia border is due to close, costing 370 of those jobs.
 
https://www.nbcnews.com/specials/kentucky-prison-coal-country

WHITESBURG, KY. — If it wasn’t for his family’s bond to the mountainside where he grew up, Aaron Boggs might have fled by now.

His home is Letcher County, a rugged and remote part of eastern Kentucky sustained for generations by a coal industry that now hardly exists. He remains here out of a sense of duty, but now the prospect of a big new federal project is giving him hope that the area might have an economic future after all.

The project would be a prison.
 
Beaudreaux said:
A union endorsing Democrats?
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True, but, aren't miners part of the blue collar constituency that went for Trump in the hope that he'd save their industries even as time passes them by?

Coal, traditional manufacturing, etc.
 
JANFU said:
Dems should learn from the PA election, that one can be either Pro Choice- or against abortion and still be a Democrat. They should have learned from the past 10 years that neglecting rural areas, their concerns were forgotten, gave the Republicans power in State Houses where Redistricting is made.

Next do not take your eye off the ball as Clinton did, and a few States, with a low number of votes gave the Presidency to Trump. IIRC she never went to Michigan?? Trying to gain voters in Georgia, ffn dumb, secure the base States first, any hint in polling that numbers are down, head there. Hubris of which HRC has far to much killed her. As much as I detest her, I preferred her over Trump. Better, and that ain't saying much of 2 really bad candidates.
Less harm to the country, to the US allies around the world, and the only way to contain China is with allies, big and small


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eople-in-three-states/?utm_term=.c5312ff9e96c
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I’m going to tell you something that up until now, only my wife knows (so don’t tell anyone): if I thought that Trump actually had a chance of winning, I wouldn’t had written in, and I would have voted for Clinton. Hindsight and all that. Now that’s just between us two.
 
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