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Florida Senate proposes year-round Daylight Savings Time

If I Remember Correctly. I seem to recall them talking about this a month ago, but then it died. Maybe someone brought it up again.

Actually, it turns out the bill is on Scott's desk, and the odds are 100% that he will sign it. I called Tallahassee yesterday and finally got the answers.
 
I see that the "kids at the bus stop" argument has popped up as it usually does. I don't buy it. My guess is that more people get killed on the road when everyone is half asleep. Clock switching is pointless. If we're really worried about kids in the dark, start school later. A lot of districts are doing that anyway.

FYI, in talking to friends and associates yesterday, about 2 years ago just in my county, 2 kids were fatally injured by autos as they were walking to the school bus stop. Call it a statistical anomaly and you would be correct, but it did happen. In the approximate same time frame, another youngster was hit by a car but not killed, in the south end of the county.
 
Actually, it turns out the bill is on Scott's desk, and the odds are 100% that he will sign it. I called Tallahassee yesterday and finally got the answers.

Well thats cool then. Minor issue, but Im all for it.
 
FYI, in talking to friends and associates yesterday, about 2 years ago just in my county, 2 kids were fatally injured by autos as they were walking to the school bus stop. Call it a statistical anomaly and you would be correct, but it did happen. In the approximate same time frame, another youngster was hit by a car but not killed, in the south end of the county.

That sucks. Lack of DST didn't cause it, though, and kids won't be safer when basically everyone on the road is sleep deprived.

It's time to eliminate clock switching. Pick DST or standard time, and stick with it all year.
 
That sucks. Lack of DST didn't cause it, though, and kids won't be safer when basically everyone on the road is sleep deprived.

It's time to eliminate clock switching. Pick DST or standard time, and stick with it all year.

I agree, and I say go back to standard time all year long, as it was here in Florida during the 50's. I cannot remember what year Florida adopted it, but I can remember when DST was something they did "up north".

Those accidents referenced happened when DST was in effect 8 months out of 12. All it really means is that for a number of months, maybe 3, daylight does not start until the kids are basically on their way to school. That means that normal diurnal rhythms are interrupted and the kids are awakened during that period when they need the sleep the most.

Yes, if the school hours were adjusted along with the clocks, it would offset the effect. But they won't change the school hours, only the clocks. Obviously, diurnal rhythms are established by mother nature, not the clocks.
 
I agree, and I say go back to standard time all year long, as it was here in Florida during the 50's. I cannot remember what year Florida adopted it, but I can remember when DST was something they did "up north".

Those accidents referenced happened when DST was in effect 8 months out of 12. All it really means is that for a number of months, maybe 3, daylight does not start until the kids are basically on their way to school. That means that normal diurnal rhythms are interrupted and the kids are awakened during that period when they need the sleep the most.

Yes, if the school hours were adjusted along with the clocks, it would offset the effect. But they won't change the school hours, only the clocks. Obviously, diurnal rhythms are established by mother nature, not the clocks.

i'd be fine with returning to standard time. i was offering permanent DST as a compromise for those who enjoy the illusion of having more daylight and don't have flex time as an option at work. what i don't support is keeping the current system in place. messing around with sleep patterns twice a year is dangerous, annoying, and pointless. the initial idea wasn't a bad one, especially at the time. however, we are a 24/7 world now, and holding onto that system out of habit is a net negative.
 
We should do this nationwide. Move the clocks forward, and leave them there.

I'd prefer we move them backwards. This of course will lead to intractable gridlock and the status quo will prevail :)
 
I'd prefer we move them backwards. This of course will lead to intractable gridlock and the status quo will prevail :)

a couple other ideas :

1. switch to GMT. then it doesn't matter where you live.

2. set the clocks to five o'clock on Friday evening, and leave them that way all year. if you like having an "extra" hour of daylight, you'll love having a permanent weekend.
 
I get tired of it being light till 10pm in the summer.

It's disconcerting. We live on LI - pretty much in the middle of the Eastern Time zone. My daughter lives on the western edge of the timezone. We were skyping with her one summer around 930 PM. It was dark here but she still had bright sunshine. Disconcerting to say the least.
 
a couple other ideas :

1. switch to GMT. then it doesn't matter where you live.

2. set the clocks to five o'clock on Friday evening, and leave them that way all year. if you like having an "extra" hour of daylight, you'll love having a permanent weekend.

1. I'm a pilot - I used to live by GMT. Actually had a watch set permanently to it - back in the days when people wore watches.......

2. That's an idea I can get behind.
 
1. I'm a pilot - I used to live by GMT. Actually had a watch set permanently to it - back in the days when people wore watches.......

i wear a watch, although it's a fitbit these days. i do have some awesome pocket watches which belonged to my ancestors, though.

2. That's an idea I can get behind.

another great idea is free ice cream Thursday. i was planning on using that as part of a platform for a Senate run, but i suppose that Friday Evening Standard Time (FEST) would preclude it.
 
I'd go for Daylight Saving's Time all year round.

I love a little more light in the evenings.

From what I understand, however, they switch back to regular time in the winter to keep kids from walking to school in the dark in the mornings.

This.

In the 70's, Nixon ordered a return to DST as an energy saving measure (there was an energy crisis at the time).
It was 1974, and the energy crisis was cutting into the American way of life, with odd-even gas rationing, a national speed limit and shortened Nascar races. The Emergency Daylight Saving Time Act signed by President Nixon dictated that clocks would spring forward one hour on Jan. 6 — and stay that way for almost 16 months, until April 27, 1975.

By fall, the dark mornings were apparently wearing on the American people. Proclaiming “it’s for the children” — those scholars standing at bus stops in the predawn — lawmakers threw in the towel of gloom. Year-round DST was scrapped, and on Oct. 27, clocks fell back.

https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/10/30/the-year-daylight-saving-time-went-too-far/

I remember that because I was walking to school before dawn when I couldn't get a ride, because I had to be at school 50 minutes before the first bell for band practice.

Here in my area of the north, that extra hour in the morning means kids are not standing at rural bus stops in the pitch black.
 
Just wanted to take this opportunity to point out once again that clock switching sucks ass.
 
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