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Why did Trump Back Strange?

Why did Trump Back Strange?

  • McConnell told him to

    Votes: 5 55.6%

  • Trump wants revenge on Bannon

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Trump didn't know what he was doing.

    Votes: 4 44.4%

  • Trump didn't know who Roy Moore was.

    Votes: 1 11.1%

  • Trump didn’t carefully look at all the options

    Votes: 3 33.3%

  • Trump is an idiot.

    Votes: 5 55.6%

  • Trump was right but Alabama was wrong.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    9
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Why did Trump back Luther Strange in Alabama:

I really don't get it. What do you think? Trump's whole argument for Strange was that he was good and tough on stances like immigration. If someone told him to vote for Moore, there is no doubt in my mind that he would use the exact same talking points.

I say it's because McConnell told him to, but then there are a whole lot of issues with that problem. Like why Trump wouldn't have done research to realize that his base including Bannon liked Moore better and that he's too easily swayed by getting a win-win deal with McConnell or really anybody. That should be troubling.
 
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NeverTrumpGOP said:
Why did Trump back Luther Strange in Alabama:

I really don't get it. What do you think? Trump's whole argument for Strange was that he was good and tough on stances like immigration. If someone told him to vote for Moore, there is no doubt in my mind that he would use the exact same talking points.
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Trying to be a GOP Team Player.

Not that this has ever gotten him anywhere.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Trying to be a GOP Team Player.

Not that this has ever gotten him anywhere.
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That makes no sense. He was hardly a GOP team player at this point, it might have made sense three months ago when they were working on the first Health Care bill, but not now. Trump seems more pissed that Strange didn't win than McConnell does. Methinks McConnell played Trump, rendering the Trump brand completely worthless now.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Why did Trump back Luther Strange in Alabama:

I really don't get it. What do you think? Trump's whole argument for Strange was that he was good and tough on stances like immigration. If someone told him to vote for Moore, there is no doubt in my mind that he would use the exact same talking points.

I say it's because McConnell told him to, but then there are a whole lot of issues with that problem. Like why Trump wouldn't have done research to realize that his base including Bannon liked Moore better and that he's too easily swayed by getting a win-win deal with McConnell or really anybody. That should be troubling.
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Strange had gone along with everything Trump proposed. Strange supported President Trump 100%. Why wouldn't Trump support someone who was behind him every step of the way? Trump knew he could count on Strange's vote come Hades and High Water.

Now the question is, will Moore who is a heck of a lot more political incorrect give Trump the same type of support Strange had?
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
That makes no sense. He was hardly a GOP team player at this point, it might have made sense three months ago when they were working on the first Health Care bill, but not now. Trump seems more pissed that Strange didn't win than McConnell does. Methinks McConnell played Trump, rendering the Trump brand completely worthless now.
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Trying to play ball with the DC ELITE R DIVISION will not hurt Trump, because we expect him to try to work with all of the willing.

And he has been willing to do that, Trump is doing what we sent him to try to do, to the best of his abilities.

The problem is the DC Elite both the D and the R DIVISIONS.

NOT TRUMP
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Trying to be a GOP Team Player.

Not that this has ever gotten him anywhere.
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Greetings, Hawkeye10. :2wave:

I read that Strange was a personal friend, which was doubtless why he backed him. IIRC, he didn't badmouth Moore, either, so all is okay, since it was up to the voters to make their choice. :thumbs:
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Why did Trump back Luther Strange in Alabama:

I really don't get it. What do you think? Trump's whole argument for Strange was that he was good and tough on stances like immigration. If someone told him to vote for Moore, there is no doubt in my mind that he would use the exact same talking points.

I say it's because McConnell told him to, but then there are a whole lot of issues with that problem. Like why Trump wouldn't have done research to realize that his base including Bannon liked Moore better and that he's too easily swayed by getting a win-win deal with McConnell or really anybody. That should be troubling.
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He was just tired of winning.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Why did Trump back Luther Strange in Alabama:

I really don't get it. What do you think? Trump's whole argument for Strange was that he was good and tough on stances like immigration. If someone told him to vote for Moore, there is no doubt in my mind that he would use the exact same talking points.

I say it's because McConnell told him to, but then there are a whole lot of issues with that problem. Like why Trump wouldn't have done research to realize that his base including Bannon liked Moore better and that he's too easily swayed by getting a win-win deal with McConnell or really anybody. That should be troubling.
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You didn't offer a speculative choice that matches my suspicion, so I didn't vote.

Here's what I think: Trump played McConnell.

I think Trump made a deal with Mitch...that Trump would support his guy in return for McConnell's support in certain legislations. Trump kept his part of the deal and he'll hold Mitch to his part. In effect, I think Trump put Mitch in a box.

I also think Trump sees this as a win-win and that's why Trump isn't really upset about the loss...in spite of reports about Trump being pissed that Strange lost. Heck, it would be within Trump's sense of tactics to leak this "pissed" report himself.

Oh...maybe people don't know about this report. Here: http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/27/politics/donald-trump-alabama-race-roy-moore/index.html
 
Trump was only inserting himself into the election.
Trump is all about Trump.
In Trump's narrow minded way of looking at the world it was just another opportunity for Trump to promote Trump, period.
 
NeverTrumpGOP said:
Why did Trump back Luther Strange in Alabama:

I really don't get it. What do you think? Trump's whole argument for Strange was that he was good and tough on stances like immigration. If someone told him to vote for Moore, there is no doubt in my mind that he would use the exact same talking points.

I say it's because McConnell told him to, but then there are a whole lot of issues with that problem. Like why Trump wouldn't have done research to realize that his base including Bannon liked Moore better and that he's too easily swayed by getting a win-win deal with McConnell or really anybody. That should be troubling.
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Why didn't Trump back a guy who was fired from his job twice? I dunno, would you hire financial analyst who can't do math and got fired twice? Would you hire a geographer who got fired twice for being unable to read a map? Would you hire a banker who was fired twice for helping burglars rob their place of employment? :roll:
 
Mycroft said:
Here's what I think: Trump played McConnell.

I think Trump made a deal with Mitch...that Trump would support his guy in return for McConnell's support in certain legislations. Trump kept his part of the deal and he'll hold Mitch to his part. In effect, I think Trump put Mitch in a box.
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Sounds logical, but I'd submit it was Bannon and Trump who played Mitch.
 
reinoe said:
Why didn't Trump back a guy who was fired from his job twice? I dunno, would you hire financial analyst who can't do math and got fired twice? Would you hire a geographer who got fired twice for being unable to read a map? Would you hire a banker who was fired twice for helping burglars rob their place of employment? :roll:
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Why do I think something like that never even crossed his mind?
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Hawkeye10. :2wave:

I read that Strange was a personal friend, which was doubtless why he backed him. IIRC, he didn't badmouth Moore, either, so all is okay, since it was up to the voters to make their choice. :thumbs:
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I dont know that,,,,they acted chummy in recent months but I have no information that they had ever met or talked till this year. I just spent 5 minutes trying to validate your claim but could not.
 
AYSM said:
Sounds logical, but I'd submit it was Bannon and Trump who played Mitch.
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I think you are correct about Bannon. Part of the strategy.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Trying to be a GOP Team Player.

Not that this has ever gotten him anywhere.
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OMG, I am just now seeing that Rush agrees with me:

I also knew what was gonna happen. I knew why Trump endorsed the loser. I know why Trump endorsed the loser from the get-go. I did tell you that. He endorsed the loser because at the time it happened he was trying to buy appeasement with Mitch. Trump frustrated, can’t get his agenda done in Washington, thought he would try appeasing Mitch McConnell.
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https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/09/27/trump-didnt-lose-in-alabama-his-voters-protected-him/
 
Perotista said:
Strange had gone along with everything Trump proposed. Strange supported President Trump 100%. Why wouldn't Trump support someone who was behind him every step of the way? Trump knew he could count on Strange's vote come Hades and High Water.

Now the question is, will Moore who is a heck of a lot more political incorrect give Trump the same type of support Strange had?
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This is the obvious answer in my opinion. It is about loyalty, Strange made it clear to Trump he was going to back him so Trump gave his support. Trump ran on "anti establishment" so it does seem rather odd he would back Strange, but I think this move backs up what many already believed in that Trump is not tied to an ideology and he values loyalty above all else.
 
Nap said:
This is the obvious answer in my opinion. It is about loyalty, Strange made it clear to Trump he was going to back him so Trump gave his support. Trump ran on "anti establishment" so it does seem rather odd he would back Strange, but I think this move backs up what many already believed in that Trump is not tied to an ideology and he values loyalty above all else.
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I agree with that
 
AYSM said:
I wouldn't let that bother you too much...he's not always wrong...:2razz:
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You know I have never had much use for Rush, but somehow he understands Trump pretty good.
 
AYSM said:
They both are known to lie and spin so perhaps they have a bit in common?
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Most likely is that they are two of the greatest experts on cable news in the nation, they understand America from dissecting and understanding cable news constantly over years, and from doing that they have learned some things about America that almost none of the geniuses know.

And of course they are both salesmen and branders and men with enough faith in themselves and gumption to strike out on their own.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Most likely is that they are two of the greatest experts on cable news in the nation, they understand America from dissecting and understanding cable news constantly over years, and from doing that they have learned some things about America that almost none of the geniuses know.

And of course they are both salesmen and branders and men with enough faith in themselves and gumption to strike out on their own.
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It doesn't take a genius to see how they manipulate, obfuscate, and propagate to gain and maintain a following....many of their followers seem nearly cult like and have a hard time realizing any fault in them so they must be doing something right if that sort of thing is considered right....they are also both hypocrites...yup, Rush knows Trump because they have similar values...and both are rich.
 
AYSM said:
It doesn't take a genius to see how they manipulate, obfuscate, and propagate to gain and maintain a following....many of their followers seem nearly cult like and have a hard time realizing any fault in them so they must be doing something right if that sort of thing is considered right....they are also both hypocrites...yup, Rush knows Trump because they have similar values...and both are rich.
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That's what salesmen do, sure they share that too.....they have both spent their lives selling themselves as a brand.
 
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