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Cruz, Texans accused of hypocricy on Harvey aid

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By New Jersey and New York GOPs with respect to Hurricane Sandy:

Cruz, Texans accused of hypocrisy on Harvey aid - POLITICO

This criticism is coming from GOPs, as well as DEMs to a lesser extent. I would add that infrastructure was rarely a problem until the US House changed hands in 2011.

Will Texas Rep. Hensarling push for off-sets as he has for 6+ years? Cruz is still playing historical revision with Sandy aid ...
 
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By New Jersey and New York GOPs with respect to Hurricane Sandy:

Cruz, Texans accused of hypocrisy on Harvey aid - POLITICO

This criticism is coming from GOPs, as well as DEMs to a lesser extent. I would add that infrastructure was rarely a problem until the US House changed hands in 2011.

Will Texas Rep. Hensarling push for off-sets as he has for 6+ years? Cruz is still playing historical revision with Sandy aid ...

Shoe...other foot...mid term elections...Trump Administration...leadership vacuum...doing the right thing the first time.
 
By New Jersey and New York GOPs with respect to Hurricane Sandy:

Cruz, Texans accused of hypocrisy on Harvey aid - POLITICO

This criticism is coming from GOPs, as well as DEMs to a lesser extent. I would add that infrastructure was rarely a problem until the US House changed hands in 2011.

Will Texas Rep. Hensarling push for off-sets as he has for 6+ years? Cruz is still playing historical revision with Sandy aid ...

Glad he gave up his Canadian Citizenship. What a scumsucker.
 
This is why you don't vote against sending disaster relief to another state - the entire purpose of the union is to scratch each other's backs.
 
By New Jersey and New York GOPs with respect to Hurricane Sandy:

Cruz, Texans accused of hypocrisy on Harvey aid - POLITICO

This criticism is coming from GOPs, as well as DEMs to a lesser extent. I would add that infrastructure was rarely a problem until the US House changed hands in 2011.

Will Texas Rep. Hensarling push for off-sets as he has for 6+ years? Cruz is still playing historical revision with Sandy aid ...

Yep, I remember that. And also for YEARS after Katrina the Republicans in those States went back to the Feds year after years with their hands out begging for more and more money. But when Sandy hit the Northeast those same Republicans voted AGAINST giving Aid to NY and NJ.

They are all for States rights and the States taking care of themselves until it's their states that need help. The GOP is filled with assholes, from top to bottom.

That said I hope politics is pushed aside here and Texas gets all the help FROM THE FEDS that they need. I would never want to be seen as petty and unfeeling as the Republican a'holes in Congress.
 
By New Jersey and New York GOPs with respect to Hurricane Sandy:

Cruz, Texans accused of hypocrisy on Harvey aid - POLITICO

This criticism is coming from GOPs, as well as DEMs to a lesser extent. I would add that infrastructure was rarely a problem until the US House changed hands in 2011.

Will Texas Rep. Hensarling push for off-sets as he has for 6+ years? Cruz is still playing historical revision with Sandy aid ...

There is a time for everything, and smack dab in the middle of a disaster isn't it. Hint: we are in the middle of a disaster...
 
There is a time for everything, and smack dab in the middle of a disaster isn't it. Hint: we are in the middle of a disaster...

Not according to the posters before me, though I might have expected this from you.

With a new storm on the Atlantic and Harvey breaking up into two new storms, the time is NOW for immediate Congressional approval of Harvey aid, followed quickly in a perfect world by a desperately needed Infrastructure bill.

Some people obviously have failing memories when it comes to GOP reaction to previous natural disasters in DEM areas ...
 
By New Jersey and New York GOPs with respect to Hurricane Sandy:

Cruz, Texans accused of hypocrisy on Harvey aid - POLITICO

This criticism is coming from GOPs, as well as DEMs to a lesser extent. I would add that infrastructure was rarely a problem until the US House changed hands in 2011.

Will Texas Rep. Hensarling push for off-sets as he has for 6+ years? Cruz is still playing historical revision with Sandy aid ...

Actually this is all silly nonsense. It wasn't the aid they were against, it was all the added BS. Dear lord can this get any dumber?
 
There is a time for everything, and smack dab in the middle of a disaster isn't it. Hint: we are in the middle of a disaster...

Most of the lawmakers who commented on the 2013 Sandy appropriation couched their opposition in terms of fiscal responsibility. The issue, they said, was that the Sandy bill had been larded down with non-Sandy and non-emergency spending. “Emergency relief for the families who are suffering from this natural disaster should not be used as a Christmas tree for billions in unrelated spending," Cruz said then.
More than 20 Texas representatives and senators voted against Sandy aid. How will they vote on Harvey? - LA Times

Especially when it's based on a lie. Cruz and co weren't against helping, it was the nature of the bill presented. And that was WELL AFTER the storm relief, not during the storm. So this whole thread stinks of IT.
 
More than 20 Texas representatives and senators voted against Sandy aid. How will they vote on Harvey? - LA Times

Especially when it's based on a lie. Cruz and co weren't against helping, it was the nature of the bill presented. And that was WELL AFTER the storm relief, not during the storm. So this whole thread stinks of IT.

The only thing that stinks about this thread is Cruz bringing up Sandy with his 'Lyin Ted' routine on historical revision; and that's according to REPUBLICAN congressmen ...
 
Actually this is all silly nonsense. It wasn't the aid they were against, it was all the added BS. Dear lord can this get any dumber?

What you call 'added BS' has been well documented as extremely necessary; this is just more silly dishonest historical nonsensical revision from 'Lyin Ted' ...
 
Am I right that Gov. Cuomo was the first to offer assistance to TX?
 
By New Jersey and New York GOPs with respect to Hurricane Sandy:

Cruz, Texans accused of hypocrisy on Harvey aid - POLITICO

This criticism is coming from GOPs, as well as DEMs to a lesser extent. I would ndy add that infrastructure was rarely a problem until the US House changed hands in 2011.

Will Texas Rep. Hensarling push for off-sets as he has for 6+ years? Cruz is still playing historical revision with Sandy aid ...

When Cruz and others opposed additional funding for victims of Hurricane Sandy is because only 30% of the friggen bill would go to helping the least among them. 70% of the bill was PORK!

And that was determined by the CBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
When Cruz and others opposed additional funding for victims of Hurricane Sandy is because only 30% of the friggen bill would go to helping the least among them. 70% of the bill was PORK!

And that was determined by the CBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

70% is more dishonest GOP talking points from Lyin Ted and the Texas delegation
 
70% is more dishonest GOP talking points from Lyin Ted and the Texas delegation

BS, those are the findings of the CBO that 70% was friggen PORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
BS, those are the findings of the CBO that 70% was friggen PORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Too bad you can't detail the pork; especially according to REPUBLICANS in New York and New Jersey;

Ted Cruz is a blatant outrageous irrational liar, BOIL, and lyingly started this discussion over Sandy all over again this past Sunday ...
 
Too bad you can't detail the pork; especially according to REPUBLICANS in New York and New Jersey;

Ted Cruz is a blatant outrageous irrational liar, BOIL, and lyingly started this discussion over Sandy all over again this past Sunday ...

Again your partisanship is what is making you irrational. Peter King NY proposed the bill for increased spending for Sandy but the only way he could get it passed in the House was to adopt a bunch of goodies for votes. In the Senate they waited for the CBO report and 70% of the bill in dollars was to pork. No good senator worth their weight would vote for such a bill.
 
Again your partisanship is what is making you irrational. Peter King NY proposed the bill for increased spending for Sandy but the only way he could get it passed in the House was to adopt a bunch of goodies for votes. In the Senate they waited for the CBO report and 70% of the bill in dollars was to pork. No good senator worth their weight would vote for such a bill.

Which party controlled the House at the time? Where's the pork?

Accusing partisanship means you've already lost the debate ...
 
Which party controlled the House at the time?

Accusing partisanship means you've already lost the debate ...

I am not accusing partisanship in regard to the vote in the House on the bill. I am accusing you of partisanship for not recognizing the facts.
 
I am not accusing partisanship in regard to the vote in the House on the bill. I am accusing you of partisanship for not recognizing the facts.

You accuse partisanship after denying that Cruz is a liar, one of the very few things trump has gotten correct. Cruz doesn't let facts affect his speech.

You accuse partisanship when you can't back up your accusations of 'pork' in Sandy relief. Bring it on.

You accuse partisanship when I link to Republicans accusing hypocrisy from Cruz, Cornyn and 23 of 24 GOP Texas congressmen who voted no for Sandy relief.

It's pretty clear where the partisanship is coming from: you ...
 
The only thing that stinks about this thread is Cruz bringing up Sandy with his 'Lyin Ted' routine on historical revision; and that's according to REPUBLICAN congressmen ...

Reality doesn't really work for you does it? You have a warped "this is what it should be" and you force facts for your own mind
 
This is why you don't vote against sending disaster relief to another state - the entire purpose of the union is to scratch each other's backs.

This.
 
What you call 'added BS' has been well documented as extremely necessary; this is just more silly dishonest historical nonsensical revision from 'Lyin Ted' ...

Pork for aid isn't neccessaey its disgusting
 
Reality doesn't really work for you does it? You have a warped "this is what it should be" and you force facts for your own mind

Reality is something foreign to Cruz and and his defenders.

Cruz doesn't get to have the first and last lie, first bringing Sandy into the Texas catastrophe. Neither do GOP partisans ...
 
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