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    Re: Why Would You Even Want the South to Rise Again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    AS history shows, the north was never at a point it was ready to give up, and despite Lee's evident skill on defense, his inability to figure out how to push the north harder ensured giving up was not an option.
    I agree. Look at us discussing history and not raving like lunatics.
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    Re: Why Would You Even Want the South to Rise Again?

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    I agree. Look at us discussing history and not raving like lunatics.
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    Re: Why Would You Even Want the South to Rise Again?

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    I know exactly what the south was about, I live here, but I'm not going to stand aside and have the thread derailed and degenerated into another "the Civil War was about slaves" thread, we already have about 5 of those. So, you can answer the point previously stated or you can not.
    If you know the South was about slavery, then how can you not know what people mean when they say "the South will rise again"? Isn't that kinda obvious?

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    Re: Why Would You Even Want the South to Rise Again?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If you know the South was about slavery, then how can you not know what people mean when thy say "the South will rise again"? Isn't that kinda obvious?
    Finally we're getting somewhere. Firstly, I don't think most of the people that say that really want slavery to return, I think they just have their head up their ass, but I can't know their thoughts and neither can you.

    So, for the third time, would the Confederate States, as they are now, be a viable union?
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    Re: Why Would You Even Want the South to Rise Again?

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    Finally we're getting somewhere. Firstly, I don't think most of the people that say that really want slavery to return, I think they just have their head up their ass, but I can't know their thoughts and neither can you.

    So, for the third time, would the Confederate States, as they are now, be a viable union?
    They don't want slavery, necessarily. They want an aspect of traditional Southern Culture, racism, to rise again. Is there any other aspect of South Culture that has been marginalized? No.

    "The South will rise again" is not about secession. It's about cultural dominance.

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    Re: Why Would You Even Want the South to Rise Again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race, is his natural and normal condition.
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    Sure, he was the VP of the CSA and actually, that was definitely a part of the issue between the Confederacy and the Union.
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    Re: Why Would You Even Want the South to Rise Again?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    They don't want slavery, necessarily. They want an aspect of traditional Southern Culture, racism, to rise again. Is there any other aspect of South Culture that has been marginalized? No.

    "The South will rise again" is not about secession. It's about cultural dominance.
    It might be and it might not be, but we're still not quite at what I'm trying to get to. Do the states that made up the Confederacy have the infrastructure, money, and general cohesiveness to be a viable union.
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    Re: Why Would You Even Want the South to Rise Again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Good grief, I see you still are cloaking authoritarian history in libertarian rhetoric
    It wasn't the whole issue, as anyone will tell you, it may have been a majority of it, but a majority is still not a whole, thus it is still a part.

    Do you have something to contribute or do you just like arguing semantics?
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    Re: Why Would You Even Want the South to Rise Again?

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    It might be and it might not be, but we're still not quite at what I'm trying to get to. Do the states that made up the Confederacy have the infrastructure, money, and general cohesiveness to be a viable union.
    They could manage. Why not? It'd be a developed country upon inception.

    But I think we should note the phrase refers to cultural dominance (and what cultural dominance, specifically) and not secession.

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    Re: Why Would You Even Want the South to Rise Again?

    Quote Originally Posted by DashingAmerican View Post
    Living in the South, I see my fair share of Confederate flags and the such.

    I've always wondered, though, why would someone even want the south to rise again?
    Why do you think the south needs to rise again? She is risen!

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