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Out of State Money in Georgia Electiion

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I heard that the Democrats, (and I'm sure Republicans), were pouring money into the race. How is that legal. Guess I am naive, but I would think that in an election for state representation in Congress, it would all have to happen in the state. I know money is the object in politics, but one would think there would be some rules??
Did I hear the story correctly?
 
This is what happens when you do not regulate campaign contributions, spending, and allow unions and corporations to contribute. Ossoff raised the same amount of money as the entire Liberal Party of Canada did in 2016. There was probably more money in this special election than in the entirety of Canadian federal politics.
 
I heard that the Democrats, (and I'm sure Republicans), were pouring money into the race. How is that legal. Guess I am naive, but I would think that in an election for state representation in Congress, it would all have to happen in the state. I know money is the object in politics, but one would think there would be some rules??
Did I hear the story correctly?

I think as long as a party doesn't exceed the limit per donation, they can pour as much money as they can. Correct me if I am wrong.
 
I heard that the Democrats, (and I'm sure Republicans), were pouring money into the race. How is that legal. Guess I am naive, but I would think that in an election for state representation in Congress, it would all have to happen in the state. I know money is the object in politics, but one would think there would be some rules??
Did I hear the story correctly?

Out of state money to influence elections by liberal special interest groups is typical in politics. It's broken down in the below story of how a wealthy individual in New York (say Bill Clinton for example) can donate to each one of the 32 states in a campaign and allow the DNC to filter the money right into Hillary Clinton's campaign. It uses a tool called "Joint Fundraising Committee" to circumvent federal election donation laws.

https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2016/02/how-the-parties-worked-the-law-and-got-their-mojo-back/
 
I heard that the Democrats, (and I'm sure Republicans), were pouring money into the race. How is that legal. Guess I am naive, but I would think that in an election for state representation in Congress, it would all have to happen in the state. I know money is the object in politics, but one would think there would be some rules??
Did I hear the story correctly?

According to Citizen's United, Money=Speech. The government cannot restrict a corporations ability to express themselves, by pouring large amounts of money into the political process. If you're really upset about it, there are people working to overturn the Citizen's United decision.

Until, then SuperPACs will continue to pour large amounts of money into our democratic process.

If Ossoff flipping a Red seat in GA, is what gets people to change their mind about money in politics, then that is a hefty dose of irony. People don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot.
 
Where does it tell you which foot the shoe is on?

Money in politics is the Koch Brothers MO. 2 billionaires bought your congress. If Ossoff flips GA-6 because of his war chest, that's beating the Koch brothers at their own game. No Republican notices when the Tea Party rides a magic carpet of dollars into congress, but when massively well funded Democrats start retaking congress, the excuses come out in full force.

If it takes Ossoff flipping GA-6, for Republicans to come to the right position on Money in Politics, bring it on.
 
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I guess there is a good reason that the last two posters are labeled 'professors'. I'm 'barefooted'.
 
I guess there is a good reason that the last two posters are labeled 'professors'. I'm 'barefooted'.

Depending on the topic, I have my moments.

If I were to run for office, getting money out of politics would be a part of my platform. And I would raise money from grassroots, small dollar contributions.

I'm also involved in Wolf PAC

Which is working at the state level to call for a constitional convention, to overturn Citizen's United and get money out of politics.

In the House the 2 year terms force congressmen to be perpetually campaigning and raising money, instead of focusing on working on legislation. The idea is to overturn the USSC Money=Speech decision and level the playing field. I support the idea of giving every tax-payer a tax credit to apply to the candidates of their choosing. They can choose to allocate 100% to this candidate, or 50% and 50% to a Senate race here and a congressional district race there.

As it stands we live in a broken system. Next to gerrymandering, Money in Politics, is the primary reason for unfairness in a Democratic system. And when you add in the aspect that SuperPAC, basically bribe politicians to legislate on their behalf, it becomes a different animal. Because not only are the elections unfair, the corporate sponsored candidate actually blocks legislation that would benefit regular people, if it hurts a special interest. Look at Booker's pharmeceutical vote.
 
"Correct me if I am wrong".

You must be right, someone would have let you know by now.....
 
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Money in politics is the Koch Brothers MO. 2 billionaires bought your congress. If Ossoff flips GA-6 because of his war chest, that's beating the Koch brothers at their own game. No Republican notices when the Tea Party rides a magic carpet of dollars into congress, but when massively well funded Democrats start retaking congress, the excuses come out in full force.

If it takes Ossoff flipping GA-6, for Republicans to come to the right position on Money in Politics, bring it on.
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Can you say "Koch Brothers" without saying George Soros? How many millions do you see hollywood socialist elitists dumping into election campaigns. HTF do people like you actually make such stupid statements as "boy...those republicans...they sure do spend a lot of money on elections. Just look at the Koch brothers" and not collapse out of shame?

Do you realize that Soros was fully invested in all of the top 9 Clinton campaign contributors? Or that 4 of the top 9 where investment companies? Or that the number 2 campaign contributor has a CEO born and raised in Moscow? Or that 2 of her top 20 financial contributors were the US Government and the State department? that her top investors are ALL multi billionaires including the richest men on the planet?

**** stinks. You running around holding your nose at 'their' pile of **** doesnt change the fact that the pile of **** you are craddling stinks just as bad.
 
:lamo

Can you say "Koch Brothers" without saying George Soros? How many millions do you see hollywood socialist elitists dumping into election campaigns. HTF do people like you actually make such stupid statements as "boy...those republicans...they sure do spend a lot of money on elections. Just look at the Koch brothers" and not collapse out of shame?

Do you realize that Soros was fully invested in all of the top 9 Clinton campaign contributors? Or that 4 of the top 9 where investment companies? Or that the number 2 campaign contributor has a CEO born and raised in Moscow? Or that 2 of her top 20 financial contributors were the US Government and the State department? that her top investors are ALL multi billionaires including the richest men on the planet?

**** stinks. You running around holding your nose at 'their' pile of **** doesnt change the fact that the pile of **** you are craddling stinks just as bad.

I'm not a Democrat and I don't support George Soros, Podesta, David Brock, Ken Salazar, Bloomberg, or any of the left wing think tanks and SuperPACs. They are all big business oriented. They don't give a **** about democracy, they just care that they stay rich and the peanut gallery stays poor.

Not a HRC supporter. I get it from both sides. I've battled people on this website about HRC. HRC was perhaps the most significant symbol in modern times, of the corrupting influence of money in politics. That still doesn't make what the Koch bros do right. And the damage they have done in the past 8 years, will take decades to undo.
 
I heard that the Democrats, (and I'm sure Republicans), were pouring money into the race. How is that legal. Guess I am naive, but I would think that in an election for state representation in Congress, it would all have to happen in the state. I know money is the object in politics, but one would think there would be some rules??
Did I hear the story correctly?

Happens all the time. Read recently that the front runner for the VA governors race on the democratic side who is leading the fundraising field by a hefty margin can attribute it to just three out of state donors-- George Soros being one of them.
 
I'm not a Democrat and I don't support George Soros, Podesta, David Brock, Ken Salazar, Bloomberg, or any of the left wing think tanks and SuperPACs. They are all big business oriented. They don't give a **** about democracy, they just care that they stay rich and the peanut gallery stays poor.

Not a HRC supporter. I get it from both sides. I've battled people on this website about HRC. HRC was perhaps the most significant symbol in modern times, of the corrupting influence of money in politics. That still doesn't make what the Koch bros do right. And the damage they have done in the past 8 years, will take decades to undo.
The Koch bros are a rat nemesis but they arent the problem. Like I said....as soon as you start shrieking about what THOSE GUYS do...well...you kinda out yourself. If its a problem its a universal problem.
 
The Koch bros are a rat nemesis but they arent the problem. Like I said....as soon as you start shrieking about what THOSE GUYS do...well...you kinda out yourself. If its a problem its a universal problem.

Until the money is removed from the equation (as if), we can debate, argue, and MF each other until we're blue in the face. Right, left and center, all samey, samey .
 
And who paid for all of the slick anti-Ossoff ads?

Who sponsored and paid for the robo calls to the GA-6 district?
 
I'm not a Democrat and I don't support George Soros, Podesta, David Brock, Ken Salazar, Bloomberg, or any of the left wing think tanks and SuperPACs. They are all big business oriented. They don't give a **** about democracy, they just care that they stay rich and the peanut gallery stays poor.

Not a HRC supporter. I get it from both sides. I've battled people on this website about HRC. HRC was perhaps the most significant symbol in modern times, of the corrupting influence of money in politics. That still doesn't make what the Koch bros do right. And the damage they have done in the past 8 years, will take decades to undo.

want to pretty much stop a lot of lobbying in Washington, repeal the 17th amendment
 
According to Citizen's United, Money=Speech. The government cannot restrict a corporations ability to express themselves, by pouring large amounts of money into the political process. If you're really upset about it, there are people working to overturn the Citizen's United decision.

Until, then SuperPACs will continue to pour large amounts of money into our democratic process.

If Ossoff flipping a Red seat in GA, is what gets people to change their mind about money in politics, then that is a hefty dose of irony. People don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot.

I was going to post something along similar lines, but you beat me to it. :2wave::peace
 
I heard on WABC this week that this is now the "most expensive" congressional race in American history.
 
Guess I am naive, but I would think that in an election for state representation in Congress, it would all have to happen in the state.

Why would one think that? I don't live in Georgia but it sure as hell impacts me if Paul Ryan is the Speaker of the House in 2019.
 
Why would one think that? I don't live in Georgia but it sure as hell impacts me if Paul Ryan is the Speaker of the House in 2019.

well, your other choice will be the Botox screech owl out of California, better get voting!
 
Depending on the topic, I have my moments.

If I were to run for office, getting money out of politics would be a part of my platform. And I would raise money from grassroots, small dollar contributions.

I'm also involved in Wolf PAC

Which is working at the state level to call for a constitional convention, to overturn Citizen's United and get money out of politics.

In the House the 2 year terms force congressmen to be perpetually campaigning and raising money, instead of focusing on working on legislation. The idea is to overturn the USSC Money=Speech decision and level the playing field. I support the idea of giving every tax-payer a tax credit to apply to the candidates of their choosing. They can choose to allocate 100% to this candidate, or 50% and 50% to a Senate race here and a congressional district race there.

As it stands we live in a broken system. Next to gerrymandering, Money in Politics, is the primary reason for unfairness in a Democratic system. And when you add in the aspect that SuperPAC, basically bribe politicians to legislate on their behalf, it becomes a different animal. Because not only are the elections unfair, the corporate sponsored candidate actually blocks legislation that would benefit regular people, if it hurts a special interest. Look at Booker's pharmeceutical vote.

The problem with (anti) CU is it was written to penalize Republican money sources, yet leave democrat sources largely untouched - unions, and "in kind" contributions such as feet on the street, rent a mob, paid time off for union work, etc.
 
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