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    Out of State Money in Georgia Electiion

    I heard that the Democrats, (and I'm sure Republicans), were pouring money into the race. How is that legal. Guess I am naive, but I would think that in an election for state representation in Congress, it would all have to happen in the state. I know money is the object in politics, but one would think there would be some rules??
    Did I hear the story correctly?

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    Re: Out of State Money in Georgia Electiion

    This is what happens when you do not regulate campaign contributions, spending, and allow unions and corporations to contribute. Ossoff raised the same amount of money as the entire Liberal Party of Canada did in 2016. There was probably more money in this special election than in the entirety of Canadian federal politics.
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    Re: Out of State Money in Georgia Electiion

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    I heard that the Democrats, (and I'm sure Republicans), were pouring money into the race. How is that legal. Guess I am naive, but I would think that in an election for state representation in Congress, it would all have to happen in the state. I know money is the object in politics, but one would think there would be some rules??
    Did I hear the story correctly?
    I think as long as a party doesn't exceed the limit per donation, they can pour as much money as they can. Correct me if I am wrong.
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    Re: Out of State Money in Georgia Electiion

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    I heard that the Democrats, (and I'm sure Republicans), were pouring money into the race. How is that legal. Guess I am naive, but I would think that in an election for state representation in Congress, it would all have to happen in the state. I know money is the object in politics, but one would think there would be some rules??
    Did I hear the story correctly?
    Out of state money to influence elections by liberal special interest groups is typical in politics. It's broken down in the below story of how a wealthy individual in New York (say Bill Clinton for example) can donate to each one of the 32 states in a campaign and allow the DNC to filter the money right into Hillary Clinton's campaign. It uses a tool called "Joint Fundraising Committee" to circumvent federal election donation laws.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/news/201...eir-mojo-back/
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    Re: Out of State Money in Georgia Electiion

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    I heard that the Democrats, (and I'm sure Republicans), were pouring money into the race. How is that legal. Guess I am naive, but I would think that in an election for state representation in Congress, it would all have to happen in the state. I know money is the object in politics, but one would think there would be some rules??
    Did I hear the story correctly?
    According to Citizen's United, Money=Speech. The government cannot restrict a corporations ability to express themselves, by pouring large amounts of money into the political process. If you're really upset about it, there are people working to overturn the Citizen's United decision.

    Until, then SuperPACs will continue to pour large amounts of money into our democratic process.

    If Ossoff flipping a Red seat in GA, is what gets people to change their mind about money in politics, then that is a hefty dose of irony. People don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston View Post
    People don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot.
    Where does it tell you which foot the shoe is on?

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    Re: Out of State Money in Georgia Electiion

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    Where does it tell you which foot the shoe is on?
    Money in politics is the Koch Brothers MO. 2 billionaires bought your congress. If Ossoff flips GA-6 because of his war chest, that's beating the Koch brothers at their own game. No Republican notices when the Tea Party rides a magic carpet of dollars into congress, but when massively well funded Democrats start retaking congress, the excuses come out in full force.

    If it takes Ossoff flipping GA-6, for Republicans to come to the right position on Money in Politics, bring it on.
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    Re: Out of State Money in Georgia Electiion

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    Where does it tell you which foot the shoe is on?
    When the billionaires on the other side cut the legs from under the "investments", (read, purchases) of the billionaires on your side, I suppose.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.fef86992f037

    This has been going on a long time, but Citizens United turned it into a real free for all.
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    Re: Out of State Money in Georgia Electiion

    I guess there is a good reason that the last two posters are labeled 'professors'. I'm 'barefooted'.

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    Re: Out of State Money in Georgia Electiion

    Quote Originally Posted by Rexedgar View Post
    I guess there is a good reason that the last two posters are labeled 'professors'. I'm 'barefooted'.
    Depending on the topic, I have my moments.

    If I were to run for office, getting money out of politics would be a part of my platform. And I would raise money from grassroots, small dollar contributions.

    I'm also involved in Wolf PAC

    Which is working at the state level to call for a constitional convention, to overturn Citizen's United and get money out of politics.

    In the House the 2 year terms force congressmen to be perpetually campaigning and raising money, instead of focusing on working on legislation. The idea is to overturn the USSC Money=Speech decision and level the playing field. I support the idea of giving every tax-payer a tax credit to apply to the candidates of their choosing. They can choose to allocate 100% to this candidate, or 50% and 50% to a Senate race here and a congressional district race there.

    As it stands we live in a broken system. Next to gerrymandering, Money in Politics, is the primary reason for unfairness in a Democratic system. And when you add in the aspect that SuperPAC, basically bribe politicians to legislate on their behalf, it becomes a different animal. Because not only are the elections unfair, the corporate sponsored candidate actually blocks legislation that would benefit regular people, if it hurts a special interest. Look at Booker's pharmeceutical vote.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mac77 View Post
    It could add fuel to the leftwing attacks on cops that was started by obama when he was president
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    The headline says he resigned, however, he was essentially fired. Michael Bolton needs to bring in his people.

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