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Mississippi brings prayer back to schools

Kobie said:
"Libs" is a typical weak pejorative that comes from people with no rational or logical arguments.
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No more so than how libs use the term con or word conservative. Remember your words when you use either again, or like a post that uses one or both to disparage.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1065731050 said:
No more so than how libs use the term con or word conservative. Remember your words when you use either again, or like a post that uses one or both to disparage.
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Cool story, bro.
 
Fletch said:
Because 'every modern nation' does X does not mean X is superior to any other alternative. Private schools in America are quite successful. Are you denying that? If not, then explain why private schooling would suddenly fail in the absence of state schools.
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Yes, of course schools that draw on clients who are able and willing to spend thousands of dollars on education do quite well. It would be strange if they didn't . The issue, though, is not having the option of public education at all. That would, IMO, be a disaster. It's never been tried in any successful nation.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Student led prayers in public schools during school time are unconstitutional and involve imposing one person's religion on another. It's way beyond someone saying "something about Jesus or whatever."
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Actually so long as the school doesn't force participation it isn't.

If it is called, quite time or reflection time, and these groups form without the direction of the teacher it should not be unconstitutional. Notice, I'm not saying whether it is or isn't as currently defined, I'm saying that it shouldn't be as it doesn't force anyone into anything.


***To add, if you don't live in Mississippi why do you care? Mind your own God damn business! (that's a general statement not directed at you personally)
 
shrubnose said:
Right. Why don't you get on your knees in front of your church 24/7 and set a good example?

:lol:

Don't forget your umbrella.
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What are you going on about?
 
ChezC3 said:
Actually so long as the school doesn't force participation it isn't.

If it is called, quite time or reflection time, and these groups form without the direction of the teacher it should not be unconstitutional. Notice, I'm not saying whether it is or isn't as currently defined, I'm saying that it shouldn't be as it doesn't force anyone into anything.


***To add, if you don't live in Mississippi why do you care? Mind your own God damn business! (that's a general statement not directed at you personally)
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Agreed, if it's just "quiet time or reflection time", then it's OK. It's when the prayers are read over the intercom to children who are required to be in class that there's a problem.

And, I suppose we could take the attitude that Mississippi doesn't have to abide by the Constitution. If you don't like what they're doing, just leave the state. I don't think that's such a good position to take, however.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
No one denies religion has played an important role in the country's history, that doesn't mean every single piece of society needs to recite god every day
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It is up to each state to decide if it wants to compel its public school districts to have the Pledge of Allegiance said regularly. There may be some sorry states where atheistic, anti-American leftists are a majority, and if so, they can do away with reading the Pledge in their public schools. The rest of us like it, complete with the "under God." I would also like to see a brief nondenominational prayer read in public schools and the Ten Commandments displayed there. That's the way it was in the U.S. until not so many decades ago, and we were a better country for it.
 
matchlight said:
1 It is up to each state to decide if it wants to compel its public school districts to have the Pledge of Allegiance said regularly. There may be some sorry states where atheistic, anti-American leftists are a majority, and if so, they can do away with reading the Pledge in their public schools. The rest of us like it, complete with the "under God." 2 I would also like to see a brief nondenominational prayer read in public schools and the Ten Commandments displayed there. That's the way it was in the U.S. until not so many decades ago, and we were a better country for it.
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1. OK. I'm fairly certain they're doing that now.
2. Non denominational? Islamic? Sikh? Hindu? Sounds to me unconstitutional unless you really include all of them.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Yes, of course schools that draw on clients who are able and willing to spend thousands of dollars on education do quite well. It would be strange if they didn't . The issue, though, is not having the option of public education at all. That would, IMO, be a disaster. It's never been tried in any successful nation.
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It's almost as if parents willing to pay tuition actually care about their child's success. What a crazy idea

That's the problem, public schools in some places are de facto parents to children in broken homes. They also are obligated by law to educate children no private school would even look at admitting
 
matchlight said:
It is up to each state to decide if it wants to compel its public school districts to have the Pledge of Allegiance said regularly. There may be some sorry states where atheistic, anti-American leftists are a majority, and if so, they can do away with reading the Pledge in their public schools. The rest of us like it, complete with the "under God."
I would also like to see a brief nondenominational prayer read in public schools and the Ten Commandments displayed there.
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 That's the way it was in the U.S. until not so many decades ago, and we were a better country for it.
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Yeah,and some far-right evangelicals would like to get the U.S. government off of Wall Street's back and into every American bedroom,controlling every American's private life.

That's not going to happen.Not today,not tomorrow.Not ever.No matter how hard some people pray for it.

Wait and see.

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It's MI, what do you expect. Regardless of what the law says, if you question religion in most counties you're going to be a pariah. Heaven forbid you're a minority, or gay.

Forcing kids to do the pledge is gross. It's not just about religion, it's blind nationalism. Kids are in public school to get an education, not sieg heil the American flag, or Jesus for that matter.
 
Northern Light said:
It's MI, what do you expect. Regardless of what the law says, if you question religion in most counties you're going to be a pariah. Heaven forbid you're a minority, or gay.

Forcing kids to do the pledge is gross. It's not just about religion, it's blind nationalism. Kids are in public school to get an education, not sieg heil the American flag, or Jesus for that matter.
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Salutes changed in late 30s
 
Paleocon said:
You realize that Christ himself participated in public religious services, right?

I don't think you're interpreting that correctly.
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Christ was holding sermons at his own events. He was referring to being all show offy about public prayer.
 
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