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Baptist pastor "shocked" after being fired for transgender reveal

EMNofSeattle said:
You cannot not choose to change your sex because it is immutable, but it is a choice to mutilate yourself and pretend to be something you’re not
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Agreed. Gender. Sex. Male. Female. I don't care what argument anybody wants to use. Discriminating against people that think they are something else and that are not hurting anybody is the mindset of utter trash.

Michael Johnson said:
Cry me a river. More weak ad hominems from you. LOL
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Calling people trash is not crying... responding to my insults like you are is crying. Support trash all you like and cry about it some more please.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Agreed. Gender. Sex. Male. Female. I don't care what argument anybody wants to use. Discriminating against people that think they are something else and that are not hurting anybody is the mindset of utter trash.



Calling people trash is not crying... responding to my insults like you are is crying. Support trash all you like and cry about it some more please.
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Repeating what I said. Yeah that was so creative. LOL
 
Michael Johnson said:
Tears! I love them! Yum!
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My tears, nah, I am exposing people who are posting things that are untrue, that makes me feel good, not sad. You must be looking in the mirror if you detect any tears.
 
Peter King said:
My tears, nah, I am exposing people who are posting things that are untrue, that makes me feel good, not sad. You must be looking in the mirror if you detect any tears.
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He is the classic Internet guy that says something to get a comment and then calls people that disagree crybabies... it worked great for him back in school but unfortunately he never was able to move on to more advanced smack.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Agreed. Gender. Sex. Male. Female. I don't care what argument anybody wants to use. Discriminating against people that think they are something else and that are not hurting anybody is the mindset of utter trash.
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Don't necessarily agree with EMN but do agree with your position. A chacun son gout. live and let live.
 
Jonsa said:
yet so many attend.
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And lead the church and the organizations that stand above the individual churches. It is human kind to lie, church leaders are certainly not immune from that sin/habit.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
You cannot not choose to change your sex because it is immutable, but it is a choice to mutilate yourself and pretend to be something you’re not
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You cannot manage to use the proper terms so why should someone listen to your ideals? Sex is the act of mating or the gender of who you are attracted to.

Trans people see themselves as incongruent to their body, so they are that person, despite their physical appearance.


There are two forms of gender, biological gender which relate to the gender of our bodies and our psychological gender. When a person's psychological gender and their physical gender do not match then medical science changes their extremal gender to match their psychosocial gender identity as much as medically possible with hormones and then surgery as a way to give the transgendered person a sense of relief from their incongruity. You do not see their DNA or chromosomes when you meet them so those markers are irrelevant to how people are perceived socially or treated.
 
Jonsa said:
yet so many attend.
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And yet somehow they are the leaders of the church when they claim to know the beliefs and actions of a god that they cannot support existing.
 
Lisa said:
And yet somehow they are the leaders of the church when they claim to know the beliefs and actions of a god that they cannot support existing.
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just remember to the times dictatorships were close allies to mostly catholic church leaders in those countries. Especially in South America. Sure there were some who stood up for what was right but they were risking their lives pretty much.
 
Lisa said:
You cannot manage to use the proper terms so why should someone listen to your ideals? Sex is the act of mating or the gender of who you are attracted to.
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That’s not the only definition of sex

Trans people see themselves as incongruent to their body, so they are that person, despite their physical appearance.
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Exactly, that’s called delusion
There are two forms of gender, biological gender which relate to the gender of our bodies and our psychological gender. When a person's psychological gender and their physical gender do not match then medical science changes their extremal gender to match their psychosocial gender identity as much as medically possible with hormones and then surgery as a way to give the transgendered person a sense of relief from their incongruity. You do not see their DNA or chromosomes when you meet them so those markers are irrelevant to how people are perceived socially or treated.
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No there’s not. This is all political theory and not fact.

There is also no evidence that putting someone on hormone therapies or mutilating them is a treatment.
 
Peter King said:
just remember to the times dictatorships were close allies to mostly catholic church leaders in those countries. Especially in South America. Sure there were some who stood up for what was right but they were risking their lives pretty much.
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Because they were protecting the people from communism. Slaying those who wish to kill you and ruin your society is self defense
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Because they were protecting the people from communism. Slaying those who wish to kill you and ruin your society is self defense
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:lamo :lamo

You are actually pretending Pinochet was protecting people? Slaying your own population for your own twisted power trip is not protecting anybody, and people pretending this was for the good of people are telling nonsense.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
That’s not the only definition of sex



Exactly, that’s called delusion


No there’s not. This is all political theory and not fact.

There is also no evidence that putting someone on hormone therapies or mutilating them is a treatment.
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You are very predicable at being very wrong.

If it was a delusion then it could be treated pharmacological with drugs meant for delusions. That was tried in the past but it didn't work. These people have a gendered brain that is at odd with their gender of their body. That idea is proven by medical science in the forum of MRIs.





Brain activity and structure in transgender adolescents more closely resembles the typical activation patterns of their desired gender, according to new research. The findings suggest that differences in brain function may occur early in development and that brain imaging may be a useful tool for earlier identification of transgenderism in young people.
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Transgender brains are more like their desired gender from an early age -- ScienceDaily

There seems to be a genetic basis for gender dysphoria. That isn't a delusion.

Gender dysphoria may have genetic basis: Australian study - ABC News


Peter King said:
:lamo :lamo

You are actually pretending Pinochet was protecting people? Slaying your own population for your own twisted power trip is not protecting anybody, and people pretending this was for the good of people are telling nonsense.
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Holy sheep.............

Maybe he will claim that Hitler was protecting Jews from Stalin's communism by sending them to Dachau, Sobidor and Auschwitz.

Yea, that makes perfect sense. :lol:
 
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Peter King said:
:lamo :lamo

You are actually pretending Pinochet was protecting people? Slaying your own population for your own twisted power trip is not protecting anybody, and people pretending this was for the good of people are telling nonsense.
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Yes, Pinochet took power from a lawless illegitimate communist dictatorship which was planning massive purges and in communication with Fidel Castro to create a loyal paramilitary communist force to protect it from the military. It was time to act.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Yes, Pinochet took power from a lawless illegitimate communist dictatorship which was planning massive purges and in communication with Fidel Castro to create a loyal paramilitary communist force to protect it from the military. It was time to act.
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Utter nonsense, he was elected. Something Pinochet did not do. And massive purges? Lawless dictatorship? What history have you been reading, the ultra right history book of lies? You are defending a mass murderer by posting lies made up from right wing fantasy sources.

You can ask the victims of Pinochet about how they were saved :roll:
 
Lisa said:
You are very predicable at being very wrong.

If it was a delusion then it could be treated pharmacological with drugs meant for delusions. That was tried in the past but it didn't work. These people have a gendered brain that is at odd with their gender of their body. That idea is proven by medical science in the forum of MRIs.







Transgender brains are more like their desired gender from an early age -- ScienceDaily

There seems to be a genetic basis for gender dysphoria. That isn't a delusion.

Gender dysphoria may have genetic basis: Australian study - ABC News


Holy sheep.............

Maybe he will claim that Hitler was protecting Jews from Stalin's communism by sending them to Dachau, Sobidor and Auschwitz.

Yea, that makes perfect sense. :lol:
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right wing revisionism, they don't like the facts so they fantasize lies to replace the facts in their own untruthful world view.
 
As I understand it the way the Baptist Church operates is the parishioners elect the pastor. If they don't want to trans pastor it's their choice. As I understand it's some Baptist Churches don't mind. some Baptist Churches One pastor to tell them how bad they are how they're going to burn in the eternal flame, religion is rather personal.
 
Michael Johnson said:
Yummy tears!
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What, been watching in that mirror again Michael, you should know better, those tears of being outed aren't going to stop shedding. Or are you finally up to posting the evidence of the claim you made? Or are you going to be your usual self, not brave enough to admit the truth.
 
Peter King said:
What, been watching in that mirror again Michael, you should know better, those tears of being outed aren't going to stop shedding. Or are you finally up to posting the evidence of the claim you made? Or are you going to be your usual self, not brave enough to admit the truth.
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You've never told the truth.
 
What did she lie about? I don't see anything see lied about.

She just wanted to identify with her chosen gender.
 
Michael Johnson said:
You've never told the truth.
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Except I told the truth, you did not and refuse to own up to your untruth about your claim that I said the church did not have the right to kick her out. You are making your own position worse and worse by keep making up more untruths and again, that goes against you, not me.
 
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