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Transgender women are women

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Was J.K Rowling being blatantly insensitive? Does a female's ability to ovulate and menstruate make her definitively different than a transgender?

Obviously, there are biological differences between people's given gender but shouldn't we respect, care, and treat everyone with dignity?


Daniel Radcliffe responds to J.K Rowling's controversial comments: "Transgender women are women" - CBS News

"Harry Potter" actor Daniel Radcliffe has sharply criticized controversial comments from author J.K. Rowling. In a piece published Monday for LGBTQ youth nonprofit The Trevor Project, Radcliffe said he felt "compelled to say something at this moment."

"Transgender women are women," Radcliffe wrote. "Any statement to the contrary erases the identity and dignity of transgender people and goes against all advice given by professional health care associations who have far more expertise on this subject matter than either Jo or I."

Rowling faced backlash over the weekend for making "anti-trans comments" on Twitter. She took issue with the phrase "people who menstruate" in an article written for Devex.

"'People who menstruate.' I'm sure there used to be a word for those people," Rowling tweeted Saturday evening. "Someone help me out. Wumben? Wimpund? Woomud?"

If sex isn't real, there's no same-sex attraction. If sex isn't real, the lived reality of women globally is erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives. It isn't hate to speak the truth.
6:02 PM · Jun 6, 2020· Twitter

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1269389298664701952
 
I have such a hard time following this stuff.

Is she suggesting that only women menstruate or that menstruation is an indication that someone is a woman or that men can't menstruate even if they believe they are woman or that women who are actually men do menstruate and therefore can't be men.....or what?
 
Was J.K Rowling being blatantly insensitive? Does a female's ability to ovulate and menstruate make her definitively different than a transgender?

Obviously, there are biological differences between people's given gender but shouldn't we respect, care, and treat everyone with dignity?

I totally support trans people being legally considered whatever gender they’ve transitioned to, but I disagree with using the force of the law to try to make people believe that being a trans woman is just the same as being born a woman.
 
I don't care what J.K Rowling says. Maybe one day she can stop pissing the Harry Potter franchise in the mud with her stupid revisions, and her blatantly ignoring her own previous material.
 
I totally support trans people being legally considered whatever gender they’ve transitioned to, but I disagree with using the force of the law to try to make people believe that being a trans woman is just the same as being born a woman.

What force of law was being suggested, X?
 
What force of law was being suggested, X?

Hi Gov. There nothing in grip’s OP about that but I do seem to recall proposed fines, like giant fines, for failing to use the “correct” pronouns.
 
Transgender women have it hard enough without someone saying 'you'll never biologically be female.' That's not what it's about.

People have the right to think what they want about the subject but at least try to be decent and respectful. It's their life, not yours. I do not agree with fining someone for improper name-calling either, more than that though, it could be considered a hate crime.
 
Hi Gov. There nothing in grip’s OP about that but I do seem to recall proposed fines, like giant fines, for failing to use the “correct” pronouns.

If someone's deliberately using the wrong pronouns, repeatedly, then I'd support a fine for that. Because that's just obnoxious and disrespectful.
 
Hi Gov. There nothing in grip’s OP about that but I do seem to recall proposed fines, like giant fines, for failing to use the “correct” pronouns.

Gender is a social construct so definitely there is no such thing as a force of law.
 
If someone's deliberately using the wrong pronouns, repeatedly, then I'd support a fine for that. Because that's just obnoxious and disrespectful.

Of course you do. What other speech do you support criminalizing? Pretty much anything you disagree with?
 
Hi Gov. There nothing in grip’s OP about that but I do seem to recall proposed fines, like giant fines, for failing to use the “correct” pronouns.

There was one provision in New York that covered something like that, in regards to employment and "deliberate" and "repeated" violations of intentionally misgendering an employee. It says the violation goes up to 250,000 but there's a slew of other violations in there, such as not allowing a person to use the bathroom of their choice, and having discriminatory procedures for people who do not identify as cisgendered.

It seems to be under the same vein as deliberate harassment, at least from how I read it. I have no idea if anyone has even faced a violation of that sort.
 
Transgender women are born female. They're women with women's rights and women's privileges. Their brain is female and always has been. How Neanderthal is it to define a person not by their brain but by their extremities.
 
Of course you do. What other speech do you support criminalizing? Pretty much anything you disagree with?

Not because I disagree with it. I see it as a form of harassment. Not to mention hate speech.
 
I totally support trans people being legally considered whatever gender they’ve transitioned to, but I disagree with using the force of the law to try to make people believe that being a trans woman is just the same as being born a woman.

It all depends on where sexuality resides. Is it in the mind or in the genitals?
 
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I have such a hard time following this stuff.

Is she suggesting that only women menstruate or that menstruation is an indication that someone is a woman or that men can't menstruate even if they believe they are woman or that women who are actually men do menstruate and therefore can't be men.....or what?

Attempting to understand lunacy is a futile passtime. So why not do something really constructive and bend a knee - or even two?
 
It's funny that some men are too insecure to accept the scientific fact that some women are born with male parts.
 
Transgender women are born female. They're women with women's rights and women's privileges. Their brain is female and always has been. How Neanderthal is it to define a person not by their brain but by their extremities.

What utter nonsense. Every cell in a man's brain is male.
 
What utter nonsense. Every cell in a man's brain is male.

:lol:

No one questions an XY female is female. Every cell in their body is "male".

Jamie Lee Curtis is female, right?
 
There was one provision in New York that covered something like that, in regards to employment and "deliberate" and "repeated" violations of intentionally misgendering an employee. It says the violation goes up to 250,000 but there's a slew of other violations in there, such as not allowing a person to use the bathroom of their choice, and having discriminatory procedures for people who do not identify as cisgendered.

It seems to be under the same vein as deliberate harassment, at least from how I read it. I have no idea if anyone has even faced a violation of that sort.

IMO that comes under the category of "there's no law against being offended." You can call a cis-male "girl" all the time and not have any laws to prevent it.

OTOH, there are laws regarding sexual harassment. IMO, if there's nothing sexual in nature about the exchange (meaning beyond the sex/gender of the person) then it's not sexual harassment. It's obnoxious and petty and being an asshole but it shouldnt be against a law.



This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
 
Transgender women are born female. They're women with women's rights and women's privileges. Their brain is female and always has been. How Neanderthal is it to define a person not by their brain but by their extremities.

Right, biology and sex organs have nothing do to with the sex of a person.
 
Right, biology and sex organs have nothing do to with the sex of a person.

Biology includes the brain. Transgender women are born biologically female.
 
Name-calling, of any kind, at a place of employment, by a superior, should make the company and the violater liable to being sued for harassment.

Here's a case today where an employee was fired.

Hartley Sawyer fired from ''The Flash'' for racist tweets

Actor Hartley Sawyer won’t be on the CW’s The Flash when it returns in 2021.

He’s been fired for posting racist, homophobic and misogynistic tweets that he shared before he joined the show in 2017 as Ralph Dibny, also known as Elongated Man.

“Hartley Sawyer will not be returning for season seven of The Flash,” the CW and the show’s producers, Warner Bros. TV and Berlanti Productions, along with showrunner Eric Wallace, said in a statement to the Hollywood Reporter. “In regards to Mr. Sawyer’s posts on social media, we do not tolerate derogatory remarks that target any race, ethnicity, national origin, gender, or sexual orientation. Such remarks are antithetical to our values and policies, which strive and evolve to promote a safe, inclusive and productive environment for our workforce.”
 
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Name-calling, of any kind, at a place of employment, by a superior, should make the company and the violater liable to being sued for harassment.

Here's a case today where an employee was fired.

Hartley Sawyer fired from ''The Flash'' for racist tweets

Yeah, I guess that's 'harassment' and should be a company policy. OTOH, those policies arent laws. (Unless perhaps they fall into the category of hate speech in some cases? I dont believe in hate speech laws.)



This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
 
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