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Some People's Positions On Sexual Harassment

Dayton3 said:
There is much more to an enjoyable life than "fun".
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I should hope so, however, sex is essential for a healthy life. Physical, mental and emotional health. We are born because of sex, we solidify our relationships with sex, we dtermine our roles in this life with sex. Those who repress their sexual needs and appetites suffer all kings of emotional, mental and physical ill health. They never achieve balance in their lives.
 
Dayton3 said:
Who cares what the Old Testament says. The Old Testament is utterly irrelevant in regards to Christians and you know it.
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Jesus was a carpenter, a Jew of his day. A lusty common man, and that lust was a good part of his empathy for others. Only Paul, Martin Luthor sought to repress the sexual lives of Christians, and both were suspect of being homosexual haters of women. The Torah and the Talmud saved Christianity from oblivian, first from the depredations of the northern tribes as they raided the British Isles, including Eire, France, Iberia and the Italian Peninsula, and then when recovering from the onslought of the Moors. There is no Christianity without the Torah.
 
Lisa said:
It is the line of faith from Genesis, to Abraham, Noah, and then to the basis for Jesus existing. It's the prequel for the New Testament.
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So? Besides why should you whine about it? You freely pick and choose what you want to believe and disbelieve from the Bible. And yet IIRC you "claim" to be a Christian.

If you are not a Christian you have no standing to criticize actual Christians.
 
OldFatGuy said:
Jesus was a carpenter, a Jew of his day. A lusty common man, and that lust was a good part of his empathy for others. .
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Prove the stuff in the latter part of that drivel with actual references to the New Testament.

You can't of course.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Yes, if you're talking about the people that supported Bill Clinton or that support Joe Biden.
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No. This man.

This past Friday evening, the Washington Post shared 2005 audio of Trump caught on a hot Access Hollywood mic telling the show’s host, Billy Bush, that he can essentially “do anything” he wants to women because of his celebrity. “When you’re a star, they let you do it,” Trump is heard telling Bush. “You can do anything.” Then, offering an example of what he can do to unsuspecting women, Trump is heard to say that he can just, “Grab ’em by the *****.” [He also admitted on the tape to having recently tried to **** a married women.]
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“Grab ’em by the *****” …my thoughts on the hot mic confession of sexual assault that may change the course of human history
 
Dayton3 said:
Prove the stuff in the latter part of that drivel with actual references to the New Testament.

You can't of course.
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Ah, but I can, but first you apologize for calling my words drivel. I've got far better proof than your false bible, filled with tales written long after the fact by men who knew nothing of the real man. Men with agendas of their own, driven by greed for power and wealth.
 
OldFatGuy said:
Ah, but I can, but first you apologize for calling my words drivel. I've got far better proof than your false bible, filled with tales written long after the fact by men who knew nothing of the real man. Men with agendas of their own, driven by greed for power and wealth.
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No you don't. You have no evidence whatsoever. The Bible is better sourced than many historical documents which are taken as true and accurate to this day.
 
Dayton3 said:
No you don't. You have no evidence whatsoever. The Bible is better sourced than many historical documents which are taken as true and accurate to this day.
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Apologize. Then I'll show you. I don't need decrepit documents, nor lies from greedy, homosexual long dead men. Jesus, a Jew of his day, did not have blond hair. He was short, stocky, muscled, swarthy of complexion, dark curly haired, with well calloused hands from years of carpentry. He was a builder of things, a doer among men, lusty, a lover of women, family and life. Old Greeks and Romans knew what they wanted to know, not what was. He was closer in appearance to the many Mexicans who bear his name today than you, with a similar appreciation of life.

Did not Jesus preach to the disenfranchised, the poor, the women, the slaves of the empire, the most oppressed, to bring them back to the folds of Judaism and the one god? Your inhibitions were not his.
 
OldFatGuy said:
Apologize. Then I'll show you. I don't need decrepit documents, nor lies from greedy, homosexual long dead men. Jesus, a Jew of his day, did not have blond hair. .
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More and more drivel from Old Fat Guy. Most of history is based on "decrepit documents". If you don't have those then you have nothing.

Who cares how Jesus looked anyway?
 
Dayton3 said:
More and more drivel from Old Fat Guy. Most of history is based on "decrepit documents". If you don't have those then you have nothing.

Who cares how Jesus looked anyway?
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Apologize. Most of history is based on lies.
 
Dayton3 said:
So? Besides why should you whine about it? You freely pick and choose what you want to believe and disbelieve from the Bible. And yet IIRC you "claim" to be a Christian.
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No, I am not Christian and I never believed the nonsense that I was told as a child either by my parents or the Catholic church.

I am a secular Humanist.

Secular humanism is a nonreligious worldview rooted in science, philosophical naturalism, and humanist ethics.

Instead of relying on faith, doctrine, or mysticism, secular humanists use compassion, critical thinking, and human experience to find solutions to human problems.

Secular humanists promote values including integrity, benevolence, fairness, and responsibility, and believe that with reason, goodwill, the free exchange of ideas, and tolerance, we can build a better world for ourselves and for future generations.

Secular humanism calls upon humans to develop within the universe values of their own.

Further, secular humanism maintains that, through a process of value inquiry informed by scientific and reflective thought, men and women can reach rough agreement concerning values, crafting ethical systems that deliver optimal results for human beings in a broad spectrum of circumstances.
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What is Secular Humanism - CFI

Are You Humanist? - American Humanist Association

If you are not a Christian you have no standing to criticize actual Christians. [/qupote] I don't need to be a Christian to criticize you and other Christians because I see your obvious hypocrisy and the lies. Do you need to be a Muslim and people of other faiths to criticize them or is that different from you?
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Dayton3 said:
Make me internet tough guy.
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Now, apologize twice. No one threatened you, unless a challenge to your dictatorial veiws of biblical interpretation shook your being and soul more than you can live with. And if that is the case, than any threat against you comes from within you. :doh :2rofll:
 
Lisa said:
I don't need to be a Christian to criticize you and other Christians because I see your obvious hypocrisy and the lies. Do you need to be a Muslim and people of other faiths to criticize them or is that different from you?
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You do if you are criticizing the particulars of someone's beliefs as a Christian instead of criticizing Christianity in general. Just as I can criticize the Muslim faith in general while not criticizing a Shia because he or she is not a Sunni.
 
OldFatGuy said:
Now, apologize twice. No one threatened you, unless a challenge to your dictatorial veiws of biblical interpretation shook your being and soul more than you can live with. And if that is the case, than any threat against you comes from within you.
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You lost me.
 
Dayton3 said:
You do if you are criticizing the particulars of someone's beliefs as a Christian instead of criticizing Christianity in general. Just as I can criticize the Muslim faith in general while not criticizing a Shia because he or she is not a Sunni.
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I am not just criticizing Catholics, nor do they get a pass from criticism. I had 12 years of religious Catholic education, I have read the Bible and I also took a critical theology class as part of my philosophy minor. I am well versed in the Christian faith, nor am required to ignore the obvious hypocrisy and lies of many of the believers. You can believe and act as you choose, as long as you don't try to trample their religious or secular rights b y doing so, but you are not exempt from criticism of others for your actions because they also have equal religious rights, as well as free speech rights.

Feel free to criticize my Humanist views of it makes you feel better.
 
Lisa said:
I am not just criticizing Catholics, nor do they get a pass from criticism. I had 12 years of religious Catholic education, I have read the Bible and I also took a critical theology class as part of my philosophy minor. I am well versed in the Christian faith, nor am required to ignore the obvious hypocrisy and lies of many of the believers. You can believe and act as you choose, as long as you don't try to trample their religious or secular rights b y doing so, but you are not exempt from criticism of others for your actions because they also have equal religious rights, as well as free speech rights.
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We'll just have to agree to disagree.
 
Dayton3 said:
Don't you have anything better to do? You have three times as many posts as I do and I've been here eight years longer.
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No. I read up to 200 words a minute and type 90 words a minute. More than half my posts are postings of music videos. What I choose to do with my time is none of your business. I am not responsible for your lack of communication skills, or the inclination, or lack thereof to use whatever communications skills you do possess.

This little critique of yours fails to get you off the hook.
 
OldFatGuy said:
No. I read up to 200 words a minute and type 90 words a minute. More than half my posts are postings of music videos. What I choose to do with my time is none of your business. I am not responsible for your lack of communication skills, or the inclination, or lack thereof to use whatever communications skills you do possess.

This little critique of yours fails to get you off the hook.
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More and more drivel from you.
 
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