• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

A PASTOR raped his own 14-year-old daughter for two years.

Yes, if she were so incline she could acquire it from somewhere else. Either a used tissue in the restroom, or some other method and use that to frame him in much the same manner that I expressed having already witnessed.

Such as happened before with one of my male patients, who tried to frame his uncle in much the same vein. This is not unheard of.
You are too late to be attempting to argue a defense of the preacher. He was proved guilty to a jury beyond reasonable doubt.
 
You are too late to be attempting to argue a defense of the preacher. He was proved guilty to a jury beyond reasonable doubt.

No, I'm just pointing out something might have happened. I know full well that he's already been tried and declared guilty, or else the linked article wouldn't read like it did.
 
No, I'm just pointing out something might have happened. I know full well that he's already been tried and declared guilty, or else the linked article wouldn't read like it did.

Then why are you still trying to defend him by attacking the victim's credibility? Its almost as if you agree with him. Do girls deserve to be abused because their father is a minster or a conservative christian? Maybe your believe that they are inherantly less credibile and deserve to be taught a lesson to obey authority.
 
first 90 seconds
 
Then why are you still trying to defend him by attacking the victim's credibility? Its almost as if you agree with him. Do girls deserve to be abused because their father is a minster or a conservative christian? Maybe your believe that they are inherantly less credibile and deserve to be taught a lesson to obey authority.

You're the only one suggesting that at this point. Because I've stated no such thing and unless you can quote me in such an instance. I suggest you try to rely on your emotions a bit less than usual.
 
You're the only one suggesting that at this point. Because I've stated no such thing and unless you can quote me in such an instance. I suggest you try to rely on your emotions a bit less than usual.

This is a hint,
Yes, if she were so incline she could acquire it from somewhere else. Either a used tissue in the restroom, or some other method and use that to frame him in much the same manner that I expressed having already witnessed.

Such as happened before with one of my male patients, who tried to frame his uncle in much the same vein. This is not unheard of.

and this,

I've seen too many people get framed for such, only for the accuser to come out years later and admit that they lied. Not to mention seeing it done by several of my younger patients almost over a full two decades.

So forgive me if I choose to remain skeptical.

and this,

No, I'm just pointing out something might have happened. I know full well that he's already been tried and declared guilty, or else the linked article wouldn't read like it did.

You are constantly attacking the credibility of the victim, suggesting that he was railroaded, and making excuses for the father.
 
This is a hint,


and this,



and this,



You are constantly attacking the credibility of the victim, suggesting that he was railroaded, and making excuses for the father.

The fact remains that he could have been railroaded. Tribal norms and public opinion have been shown to do this kind of damage before "A la, 12 angry men and such stories" as reference.

Though I'm fine with accepting their decision and saying that justice has been done. I'm also pointing out that the possibility of him being innocent still remains. Though by the time that such a event might come to pass, if it actually does.

People like you wont care, nor would you even register it as a reason to try so. While I on the other hand will feel immense sorrow for this man.

As I've stated, I've seen too many instances of this being an issue when the accuser is a minor and the defendant is an adult. Even in the case of it being a male against a woman, there is overwhelming effort put into hammering such decisions through. As to deal out punishment to the accused, as swiftly as possible.

Such is one of the many weaknesses of our justice system.
 
Would you let this guy be alone with your children or grand children?


You are invoking a Ti Toque fallacy by saying that what happens in the US pales in comparison to what happens in another country, so it's OK and acceptable because someplace else where their skin color is different the situation is worse. That is both racist and fallacious way of deflecting from the immorality that you seem to be saying is acceptable.

Tu Quoque (Logical Fallacy) - Definition and Examples

I never said it was okay so where is the link for that false premise fallacy again? You should bookmark it.
 
He seems to have gotten his sentence reduced by more than 1 year for every page in the King James bible.

Maybe NAMBLA members should take the hint and become ministers or priests.....


At least we know that ministers/priests become members of NAMBLA. The Rev. Paul Shanley was a part of the conference founding NAMBLA. It is unclear how much the Roman Catholic archdiocese of Boston knew of Shanley's involvement with NAMBLA.
 
Only in America could a minister rape his teen daughter repeatably and be given a reduced sentence because he is a man of god. Does this mean that minsters are rapists or maybe if he wasn't a man of god he wouldn't be raping his teen daughter on multiple occasions.



Judge gives pastor who raped daughter, 14, a soft prison sentence ‘because he is a man of God’

Have not been to the Middle East or Afghanistan recently?

The stories I can tell you....and not just about daughters.
 
Would you let this guy be alone with your children or grand children?


You are invoking a Ti Toque fallacy by saying that what happens in the US pales in comparison to what happens in another country, so it's OK and acceptable because someplace else where their skin color is different the situation is worse. That is both racist and fallacious way of deflecting from the immorality that you seem to be saying is acceptable.

Tu Quoque (Logical Fallacy) - Definition and Examples

Would you let your daughter alone with Joe Biden?
 
Yes, if she were so incline she could acquire it from somewhere else. Either a used tissue in the restroom, or some other method and use that to frame him in much the same manner that I expressed having already witnessed.

Such as happened before with one of my male patients, who tried to frame his uncle in much the same vein. This is not unheard of.

Yes, very famous, the bed frame semen frame up.
 
Guarantee you that this isn't this cowboy's first rodeo.

There are probably other young girls in the congregation too afraid to report it.
 
Have not been to the Middle East or Afghanistan recently?

The stories I can tell you....and not just about daughters.

I was sexually assaulted in the heartland of the US. I didn't have to leave the US for it to happen, and they refused to prosecute.
 
I was sexually assaulted in the heartland of the US. I didn't have to leave the US for it to happen, and they refused to prosecute.

That is most unfortunate and horrifying; but, it is not just in the USA such things happen....it happens the world over, and they are swept under the rug because the accused is a holy man, politician, rich business owner, celebrity, Warlord, etc.
 
Yes, very famous, the bed frame semen frame up.

Hold on; are you claiming that "no one" has ever been framed for rape, or that it's impossible to do as such?
 
Hold on; are you claiming that "no one" has ever been framed for rape, or that it's impossible to do as such?

Are you suggesting the pastor was very careless about where he left his semen?
 
Are you suggesting the pastor was very careless about where he left his semen?

Yes, I lived in student housing my first semester of college. You tend to find that men of any age will dirty anything up and not care for where they leave anything else.

So don't even try to be asinine about this.
 
Yes, I lived in student housing my first semester of college. You tend to find that men of any age will dirty anything up and not care for where they leave anything else.

So don't even try to be asinine about this.

We are not discussing college freshman behavior here, so do take your own advice.

A 14 year old girl is savvy enough to scout out the semen of her pastor father and rub it on her bed frame? What do you think might have led her to do such a thing, even if?
 
Are you suggesting the pastor was very careless about where he left his semen?

That's the ticket. The pastor should just tell the police he is always leaving his semen wherever he goes. He leaves it in the bathroom, leaves it on the refrigerator, leaves it on the bible.

"I swear officer I am like a rotating sprinkler in the summertime. I'm spraying that crap like confetti in my house"
 
That's the ticket. The pastor should just tell the police he is always leaving his semen wherever he goes. He leaves it in the bathroom, leaves it on the refrigerator, leaves it on the bible.

"I swear officer I am like a rotating sprinkler in the summertime. I'm spraying that crap like confetti in my house"

Funny but way too much TMI.
 
Back
Top Bottom