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Transgenderism - Healthy or a Hoax?

swing_voter said:
If the kid was 26 maybe. At six they barely know the difference between boys and girls.
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You must be a slow learner if you barely knew the difference between boys and girls by the time that you were in kindergarten.
 
gino said:
What I don't like is that the trans community keeps bringing up science, but ignores the science of sex. The science of sex is actually pretty straight forward. XX is female, XY is male. That is the undisputed science of sex. Now, if someone wants to say that gender is different than sex, okay, I'll listen. But to say that science proves that there are an infinite amount of sexes? Nope, no it doesn't.
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On the contrary. AIS, CAS, Chimerism, and several other forms of intersexed dispute said science. From what you posted, the woman below is a man to you.

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ProgressPlease said:
Sexual orientation is just that. Who one is attracted to. Same sex, opposite sex, both.

Sex refers to one's biological sex. Male or female. A small percentage of the population is considered intersex or having a DSD (disorders of sex development). Intersex is not a "third sex" nor is it a gender identity.

Gender has changed over time and is often used either to reflect a societal role (women have felt they been forced into gender roles based on their sex, for example). OR some believe there is such a thing as an innate "gender identity". There is no settled science (just many theories and studies with predetermined outcomes so they cannot be relied upon).

One need not believe in the concept of an innate, immutable, gender identity to believe people should live as they wish and not be dehumanized or disrespected. When a group works to redefine the sex categories, it becomes an issue. It is also an issue in sport, obviously. Open discussion is needed. Less hyperbole, more compassion, and more honesty about the concept of gender, what we should be legislating around this concept and the potential unintended consequences. Last of all we should be able to discuss the idea of children and young people (particularly before the age of 25 when the brain is generally considered to be fully developed) transitioning socially or medically.
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One percent of the population is intersexed in some way. That really isn't all that small.

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marke said:
What does science teach about transgenderism? Dr. Paul McHugh, chief of psychiatry at John Hopkins Hospital from 1975 to 2001, saw transgenderism as a mental health problem.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...51e56e-0d85-11e7-ab07-07d9f521f6b5_story.html

Nearly four decades after he derailed a pioneering transgender program at Johns Hopkins Hospital with his views on “guilt-ridden homosexual men,” psychiatrist Paul McHugh is seeing his institution come full circle with the resumption of gender-reassignment surgeries.

McHugh, the hospital’s chief of psychiatry from 1975 to 2001, still believes that being transgender is largely a psychological problem, not a biological phenomenon. And with the title of university distinguished service professor at Johns Hopkins Medicine, he continues to wield enormous influence in certain circles and is quoted frequently on gender issues in conservative media.

“I’m not against transgender people,” he said recently, stressing that he is “anxious they get the help they need.”
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hoax.
 
roguenuke said:
On the contrary. AIS, CAS, Chimerism, and several other forms of intersexed dispute said science. From what you posted, the woman below is a man to you.

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Noting an abnormality doesn't make it contrary. You are citing am exception not the rule.
 
Be3ing intersex and being trans aren't the same thing.
 
gino said:
Be3ing intersex and being trans aren't the same thing.
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Yes, it is because they are both natural and predictable variations to being CIS and they aren't a choice. My nephew is intersexed.
 
gino said:
Be3ing intersex and being trans aren't the same thing.
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First, you dont know that because you have no right to know if someone is intersexed. That is private medical information.

But we don't know that being transgender is simply just not a different form of intersexed, one in which the brain, as in how it operates, rather than sexual organs are different than "normal" when it comes to expression of gender. There is evidence to support this is the case.

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roguenuke said:
First, you dont know that because you have no right to know if someone is intersexed. That is private medical information.

But we don't know that being transgender is simply just not a different form of intersexed, one in which the brain, as in how it operates, rather than sexual organs are different than "normal" when it comes to expression of gender. There is evidence to support this is the case.

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So it is a birth defect or it possibly is a birth defect?
 
marke said:
Like Obama, McHugh was "sent away." Unlike Obama, McHugh was in charge at Johns Hopkins Hospital for 25 years before he was "sent away."
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Actually he is still a distinguished service professor at Johns Hopkins Medicine.
 
roguenuke said:
First, you dont know that because you have no right to know if someone is intersexed. That is private medical information.
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Intersex is generally meant to be a number of conditions that occur due to chromosomal abnormalities - usually with the sex chromosomes, X and Y. As of right now, there has been no scientific data that being transgendered is caused by an abnormality of the sex chromosomes. It might be, but if it is, it is in such a way that it is not now understood. As of right now, being intersex and being trans have no proven correlation. This is one more example of the trans community trying to muddy the waters and not actually dealing with the real-world political problems in the trans community.
 
Lisa said:
Sex is an act of mating and can be heterosexual, homosexual, pansexual, or asexual.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mating is always and only heterosexual. One of the many delusions you people must embrace to make sense of your silly views.
 
marke said:
What does science teach about transgenderism? [/B]
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I understand that for those of you struggling with your sexuality this is of paramount interest but to us "norms" it's of little interest.

May I suggest a transgender support site might be more useful for you.

all the best

noonereal
 
dixon01767 said:
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mating is always and only heterosexual. One of the many delusions you people must embrace to make sense of your silly views.
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you best look up the definition

the lol is at your uneducated post
 
I find it very interesting that it's always wingnuts that want to talk about non heterosexual sex.

The same folks that carry "big guns."

What might Freud say?
 
noonereal said:
you best look up the definition

the lol is at your uneducated post
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The delusion is strong with this one.

"In biology, mating is the pairing of either opposite-sex or hermaphroditic organisms, usually for the purposes of sexual reproduction. "
 
noonereal said:
I understand that for those of you struggling with your sexuality this is of paramount interest but to us "norms" it's of little interest.

May I suggest a transgender support site might be more useful for you.

all the best

noonereal
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Who wrote the book, Brucie Jenner?
 
gino said:
Intersex is generally meant to be a number of conditions that occur due to chromosomal abnormalities - usually with the sex chromosomes, X and Y. As of right now, there has been no scientific data that being transgendered is caused by an abnormality of the sex chromosomes. It might be, but if it is, it is in such a way that it is not now understood. As of right now, being intersex and being trans have no proven correlation. This is one more example of the trans community trying to muddy the waters and not actually dealing with the real-world political problems in the trans community.
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The first part of the post has to do with medical privacy. You have no right to know if any of their DNA is of a different sex or makeup than other parts of their body, including their head/brain is showing.

Second, chimerism is being considered a form of intersexed. It is possible to have the DNA in your body, making up your body of both sexes, having both XX and XY chromosomes in significant amounts in different parts of your body because in utero it is possible (and happens more often than we ever knew until recently) to absorb a fraternal twin.

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Like I said, this is just a bunch of science sounding garbage to deflect from the real issues, which the trans community refuses to address.

Just add smoke and pretend that there is no problem.
 
gino said:
Like I said, this is just a bunch of science sounding garbage to deflect from the real issues, which the trans community refuses to address.

Just add smoke and pretend that there is no problem.
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And this is an attempt to deflect from the fact that people are different. There really isn't any reason to prevent transgendered people from living their life as they wish, they see themselves, rather than forcing them to live as others believe they should.

The OP is trying to ask if transgenderism is a hoax and no one has provided evidence it is.

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How about this. It has been stated that most people who express the desire to be trans when they are kids end up growing out of it by their early 20s. If this is true, it means that many/most of these "trans kids" are being allowed to make a huge mistake for the sake of today's political correctness. So, I would say that today's " Pro-trans movement" is indeed a hoax.

And that is why people like me are against the trans movement in the US. Not because I want to stop a true trans person from doing what they want. It is that the current politically correctness in the US today is being forced on us.
 
gino said:
Intersex is generally meant to be a number of conditions that occur due to chromosomal abnormalities - usually with the sex chromosomes, X and Y. As of right now, there has been no scientific data that being transgendered is caused by an abnormality of the sex chromosomes. It might be, but if it is, it is in such a way that it is not now understood. As of right now, being intersex and being trans have no proven correlation. This is one more example of the trans community trying to muddy the waters and not actually dealing with the real-world political problems in the trans community.
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You have reading to do. Being transgendered in not a choice.

Gene variants provide insight into brain, body incongruence in transgender -- ScienceDaily


What political problems are transgendered people not addressing? The fact that there are uneducated bigots who hate anyone who is different is not the fault of transgender people, and more than you can blame black and interracial people for the existence of the Nazis and the Klan.
 
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