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    Re: Transphobic hospitals postpone gender reassignment surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sorry...but that's simply not reality and that is proven by the continued high suicide rates in the trans community.
    There are numerous other issues at play, so to blame the suicide rate only on the surgery is wrong. The outcome is much better if it is treated as a teen but there are many teens who can't get proper care because of their family beliefs, religion, or cost.

    Many transgender people don't get the proper follow-up care because the Drs they that they aren't qualified for hormones of trans women just because they have treated CIS women. This is a lifelong situation and continued mental health care is often ignored after surgery. Trans guys have a very poor surgery outcome so many don't get the surgery due to the fact that it isn't well developed and often those who want it cannot afford it because of the cost.

    There are also many transgendered people who focus only on their appearance and never look deeply into the psychological health and background before the surgery. This lapse can be deadly because there are many issues that need to be talked about in psychotherapy counseling and treatment.

    PTSD is rampant in the trans community because of abuse both as a child and abuse and bullying as adults in denials of care, loss of jobs and family due to religious bigotry, ignorance and equal rights. It is often not recogniozed and properly treated.
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    Re: Transphobic hospitals postpone gender reassignment surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No...it doesnt. The mental state is not made whole with surgery. if that were the case we wouldnt have suicides in the 40% range still.

    Its really ****ing disturbing watching some of you people and your comments. You are so invested in the 'cause' of transgenderism you abandon reason. I have not suggested all trans individuals are mentally ill. I have stated the FACT that people that see trans surgery as life saving surgery are misguided and not good candidates for surgery, any more so than people that have not successfully achieved mental wellness are candidates for weight loss surgery. That doesnt mean they shouldnt have gender reassignment surgery...it means they should first successfully complete mental health counseling and love themselves before they expect surgery to 'fix' them. Those that have successfully undergone the transitional surgery didnt do so successfully because their body was physically altered...they did it because they embraced themselves as who they were FIRST.
    2+ years of counseling and testing is among the first parts of transgendered treatment. It is muich longer in teens who can't get approved for surgery before 17 or 18. A person doesn't just request to have surgery after being on hormones for 6 months.
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    Re: Transphobic hospitals postpone gender reassignment surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa View Post
    Who said anything allowing patients to asphyxiate during surgery?
    Asphyxiation (terminal ARDS) is putatively what happens to the COVID-19 patient who isn't getting medical care because the space, staff, and resources required to treat him are tied up for elective surgery. Which is why the OP is easily identifiable (or at least should be identifiable) as satire.

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    Re: Transphobic hospitals postpone gender reassignment surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa View Post
    2+ years of counseling and testing is among the first parts of transgendered treatment. It is muich longer in teens who can't get approved for surgery before 17 or 18. A person doesn't just request to have surgery after being on hormones for 6 months.
    and for MOST people that is sufficient. But not for all.

    That has been my point. I have never made a comment suggesting people SHOULDNT have gender reassignment surgery...only that those that see it as life saving are not hyet mentally ready for it.

    And that is factual.

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    Re: Transphobic hospitals postpone gender reassignment surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Show us a study that compares pre op to post op, AND accounts for other factors such as drug interactions, bullying, clinical depression, etc.

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    Dood...you dont think those other correlative factors might still be relevant from a mental health perspective?

    Seriously...its ****ing sick watching you lot more invested in the cause than the people.

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    Re: Transphobic hospitals postpone gender reassignment surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Dood...you dont think those other correlative factors might still be relevant from a mental health perspective?

    Seriously...its ****ing sick watching you lot more invested in the cause than the people.
    An overall perspective, sure. But I would expect someone with clinical depression to get treated for clinical depression the same whether they are trans or not. Same for bullying. The Transgenderism doesn't enter into it as far as these factors are concerned. Please show how they are.

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    Re: Transphobic hospitals postpone gender reassignment surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    Trans surgeries postponed indefinitely amid coronavirus pandemic

    This is outrageous. Tansgender surgeries are literally a matter of life and death. I hope people with hospitalized corona patients take their business elsewhere. SMH.
    How are transgender surgeries a matter of life and death?

    I hope you know what that means. If the surgery is not done the patient will die.

    I doubt that is the case with a transgender surgery.
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    Re: Transphobic hospitals postpone gender reassignment surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by AtlantaAdonis View Post
    And there it is on the first reply...the transphobia. It's elective surgery because trans trans people have a "fetish" or are just "pretending" to be of a different sex.
    The word phobia means fear. There was no fear in his post, just facts.
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    Re: Transphobic hospitals postpone gender reassignment surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Lisa View Post
    It can be life and death because of deteriorating mental health.
    If that is the case they are going to the wrong kind of doctor.
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    Re: Transphobic hospitals postpone gender reassignment surgery

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    If that is the case they are going to the wrong kind of doctor.
    Having the body surgically changed to match their psychological gender is the cure if they have been previously approved for GRS.
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