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Should Catlyn Jenner's medals and awards be taken from her?

Should Catlyn Jenner's medals and awards be taken from her?

  • Yes, Jenner was never a male so should never have been in males-only events

    Votes: 1 7.1%

  • No, Jenner was a male then and is a male now, regardless of gender

    Votes: 13 92.9%
  • Total voters
    14
COTO said:
If I hated Mr. Jenner, or felt any ill will towards him, I'd plainly say so.

I frankly don't care how asserting the truth makes me look. The idea of divorcing one's gender from one's immutable biological sex is a delusion destined to create ever-greater misery, chaos, confusion, and dysfunction. I hold my peace in public for sake of sparing people's feelings, but on forums like this, even if the whole world goes mad eagerly pretending men are women and women are men, let it be known there were some who didn't go mad with it.
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You're not seeing truth, your being pedantic for the sake of hate.
 
Lisa said:
What happened in your life recently that you are so determined to attack and trying to rationalize your hatred for transgender people because this obsession is not natural
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I don't hate transgenders in the slightest, nor transexuals.

Why are your messages so seemingly envious of females who enter athletics you seem to want it to be impossible for females to win?
 
joko104 said:
So the Democratic Party now condemns divorced people? The list of voters who should vote straight Republican for every office in every election just grew to 90%.

Is your point that Trump should instead be a billionaire with a kept woman outside of marriage that he buys like divorced Bloomberg?
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You were the one wanting to correct what you felt was a wrong some 44 years ago. I only added wouldn't it be great if Donald Trump could correct his wrong for dumping Ivana Trump 29 years ago.

But we all know that Trump's word is fake as the dye he wears on his air.
 
Crosscheck said:
You were the one wanting to correct what you felt was a wrong some 44 years ago. I only added wouldn't it be great if Donald Trump could correct his wrong for dumping Ivana Trump 29 years ago.

But we all know that Trump's word is fake as the dye he wears on his air.
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I've never said I wanted anything on this thread. In my opinion, Jenner is a fake and it all just a publicity stunt - a very successful one.

Please link to any message you have posted criticizing Clinton, Kolbuchar and Warren for dying their hair. Bet you can't.
 
joko104 said:
The claim of some transgender activists is that a MTF transgender was actually born a female/woman - and therefore should compete in women's athletic events. In this, they claim Catlyn Jenner was actually born a woman/female.

However, she didn't enter events for women, but for men - when she was NEVER a man according to the transgender activist claims. Thus, Jenner was never eligible to enter any even as a male. She has openly admitted she is MTF transgender.

Jenner was inducted into the United States National Track and Field Hall of Fame in 1980, the Olympic Hall of Fame in 1986, the and the Connecticut Sports Hall of Fame in 1994, and the San Jose Sports Hall of Fame in 2010 - all upon the LIE that she was a man and all with the now known fraud that Jenner was a female.

EVERY medal she won was her falsely entering competition as a man. Every honor falsely obtained. Retroactively taking away athletic awards is what is done when it was later learned the person was not eligible to compete or was later disqualified for any reason.

IF the claim of transgender activists that MTF transgender should be in female events is true, then every award, every gold medal and every honor she received all are now known should have never happened because she never should have entered any male competitions. Upon her later confession that she was never a man, all her medals, awards and honors should be stripped from her.

Lack of knowledge by Jenner is not excuse, just as it is no excuse to say "I didn't know using that health supplement was prohibited" or even "someone must have put it in my food, I didn't know." Failing a drug test - even after the fact - causes the award to be retroactively taken away. The same for entering as the wrong sex/gender - whether knowingly doing so or not.

Which one is it? Jenner was born a male/man, or born a female/woman? Pick one. If the latter, all medals and awards should be stripped from Catlyn Jenner.
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Nope. She entered and competed as a man.


The best man
 
Common Sense 1 said:
Silly poll and dismal choices.........

And no Jenner won the medals/awards fair and square! Next......
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I well recall when SHE won. She, to play fair, belonged in the Woman's class. Clearly SHE could have easily defeated all women on Earth.

See how her argument merits argument .

The poll could be improved but when she impregnated women, she should have told the women she mated with she was not a he at all.

Jenner has lived a life of deceit. His children paid for his crimes by refusing to be with white men.
 
Robertinfremont said:
I well recall when SHE won. She, to play fair, belonged in the Woman's class. Clearly SHE could have easily defeated all women on Earth.

See how her argument merits argument .

The poll could be improved but when she impregnated women, she should have told the women she mated with she was not a he at all.

Jenner has lived a life of deceit. His children paid for his crimes by refusing to be with white men.
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Kind of like trump
 
Crosscheck said:
You were the one wanting to correct what you felt was a wrong some 44 years ago. I only added wouldn't it be great if Donald Trump could correct his wrong for dumping Ivana Trump 29 years ago.

But we all know that Trump's word is fake as the dye he wears on his air.
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Holy moses. I just read a post that advises Trump be a bigamist. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
joko104 said:
How is it ridiculous? The poll is whether the claim that a MTF transgender was born female or not? If born female, Jenner was never eligible to enter male-only events. It is that simple a question. It can't be diametric opposite claims depending upon the political agenda.
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Wasn’t he born male, perform as a male with the appropriate male equipment, and years after the Olympics have sex change operation? Go complain to the Olympic Committee. But it is a nice pair of questions you have limited us to. Sort of like check one: ___ Are you a homophobe? or ____ do you hate gay people?
 
Nickyjo said:
Wasn’t he born male, perform as a male with the appropriate male equipment, and years after the Olympics have sex change operation? Go complain to the Olympic Committee. But it is a nice pair of questions you have limited us to. Sort of like check one: ___ Are you a homophobe? or ____ do you hate gay people?
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No, Jenner - despite having $100 million dollars - never had a sex change operation.

The poll is questioning how quickly people will deny their own slogans when in comes to PCism. On other threads, they will furiously claim a transgender was "born that way," while on this thread those same people do not hold to that position.

I always disliked the "born that way" claim as an excuse - when no excuse or explanation is necessary and it is extremely demeaning - like claiming being gay, lesbian or trans is a birth defect deserving pity and protection under the Americans With Disabilities Act. In my own opinion. some people probably are born gay. Others become gay by social and life experience forces. For example, two lesbians I know clearly state they became lesbians due to extreme abuse - including sexual assaults - by men to the point that men are repulsive, and even hate or fear men, do not trust men. Men in prison often become "gay" - with excuses explaining what that somehow just doesn't count.

Rather, in my opinion merely saying "I am ______" is sufficient, with no rationalizations or excuse required. If a person wants to speculate why? Sure, go ahead. But slogans are not self proving truisms.
 
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joko104 said:
No, Jenner - despite having $100 million dollars - never had a sex change operation.

The poll is questioning how quickly people will deny their own slogans when in comes to PCism. On other threads, they will furiously claim a transgender was "born that way," while on this thread those same people do not hold to that position.

I always disliked the "born that way" claim as an excuse - when no excuse or explanation is necessary and it is extremely demeaning - like claiming being gay, lesbian or trans is a birth defect deserving pity and protection under the Americans With Disabilities Act.

Rather, merely saying "I am ______" is sufficient, with no rationalizations or excuse required.
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Then you agree she should keep her medals
 
vegas giants said:
I dont enjoy men.


Your tastes are your tastes though. Lol
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That is why you post here. You do not enjoy men.

As a good^^^^^^^^^ democrat, you please me by granting me the freedom to have my own tastes.

My tastes definitely is a full life of enjoying women.
 
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