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    In a recent interview on the podcast Ladies Like Us, rapper T.I. was asked if he has broached the topic of sex with his two daughters. In response, he declared that he had not only had “the conversation” with his 18-year-old daughter, Deyjah, but that they “have yearly trips to the gynecologist to check her hymen.”

    What T.I. is referring to is known as a “virginity test” — a gynecological procedure intended to determine whether a woman has had vaginal intercourse — and it’s not as uncommon as you might think. The procedure involves a medical professional inserting their fingers or a speculum into a woman’s vagina to inspect her hymen, a thin piece of tissue at the opening. The assumption is that if the hymen is intact, the woman is still a virgin; if it’s torn, she’s not.

    And yet, the tests still aren’t obsolete — even in the United States. For an investigation into virginity testing, Marie Claire and the Fuller Project interviewed dozens of women and medical professionals, and discovered that the procedure is still being carried out across the country, often in religious communities where parents ask doctors to perform the procedure to determine whether or not a woman is eligible for marriage. Furthermore, the investigation found that the U.S. has no laws banning the procedure, nor guidelines from major medical associations “to help physicians and nurses navigate the ethical and legal minefield that is virginity testing.”

    When doctors legitimize virginity by conducting fake tests for it, they arguably uphold one of the oldest lies used to control women: that whether or not a woman has had sexual intercourse determines worth.”
    Christianity is a bizzare religion with many weird ideas. Some are harmless and of no concern. But others like this one are harmful, treating woman as objects valued for their virginity. Can any christian here defend this shameful practice of no worth that has only the purpose of continuing the superstitious belief of christian men's superiority and ownership of women?

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    I don't think there is a gynecologist in America who'd tell a dad his daughter had lost her hymen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    I don't think there is a gynecologist in America who'd tell a dad his daughter had lost her hymen.
    Is there actually a Dad that wants to know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MovingPictures View Post
    Is there actually a Dad that wants to know?
    T.I. does. And he's a creepy misogynist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoverness View Post
    T.I. does. And he's a creepy misogynist.
    I'm sorry, who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MovingPictures View Post
    I'm sorry, who?
    The first sentence in the OP quote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soylentgreen View Post
    Can any christian here defend this shameful practice of no worth that has only the purpose of continuing the superstitious belief of christian men's superiority and ownership of women?
    You realize that men are also commanded (and expected) to be virgins prior to marriage? There's just no test for it.

    As for why virginity is important: knock yourself out.

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    Why Do American Doctors Perform Virginity Tests?

    "“So-called virginity testing is nothing more than an assault on young women with no scientific or medical basis,” says Jonah Bruno, director of communications at the New York State Department of Health. And yet, girls and women are suffering from the fears and consequences of “failing” a virginity test and grappling with the aftermath of being forced to undergo such an invasive exam"

    Women are suffering for no reason. No medical procedure exists that can accurately determine if a woman—or a man, for that matter—is a virgin. The hymen often tears or wears away as women age and during everyday activities like running, just as it can stretch during sex.

    Hymens, like many body parts, vary widely in shape and size. Most can be found near the entrance of the vagina, forming a crescent or doughnut shape around the opening. Some women have a septate hymen, in which there’s an extra bit of membrane that creates two openings; a microperforate hymen, a membrane that nearly covers the entrance to the vagina entirely; or a cribriform hymen, one with many little holes. Very rarely, a woman may have a hymen that completely covers the entrance of the vagina, called an imperforate hymen. These types of hymens can make it difficult to menstruate or have sex and might require minor surgery. At times, girls are born without a hymen; others are born with hymens so thick, they remain intact even after having sex.

    "Virginity testing is “incompatible with professional obstetric and gynecological ethics,” wrote Laurence B. McCullough, Ph.D., adjunct professor of ethics in obstetrics and gynecology at Weill Cornell Medical College in New York City, in a 2015 article he coauthored in The Lancet. Medical professionals have the “responsibility to lead efforts to enact legislation that prohibits virginity testing,” it read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by btthegreat View Post
    No medical procedure exists that can accurately determine if a woman—or a man, for that matter—is a virgin.
    Textbook perfect solution fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COTO View Post
    Textbook perfect solution fallacy.
    Its worse than useless if in fact you can have false results either way. There is no way to preclude a jog in the park a year ago from damaging a hymen. There is no way to ensure a sex act leads to a rupture. Assuming it is accurate and often the test results themselves are used in ways that lead to abuse ( so much so that clinicians admit in surveys to lying to parents to protect girls from abuse, shame etc), and the test itself is abusive in its invasive nature It should be banned from the practice of medicine.
    Last edited by btthegreat; 02-05-20 at 07:10 PM.

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