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virginity testing

COTO said:
No. I posted a link to a search that, if followed, will take you to a litany of online resources discussing the physical, social, emotional, and spiritual ramifications of extramarital sex, and by extension, the importance of virginity.

You'll find material on sexual disease, sexual exploitation, coercion, unwanted pregnancy, emotional/physiological impacts of losing one's virginity (particularly for women), impacts on marital bonding, loss of irreplaceable opportunities to build moral character, defiling of a covenant picturing the marital covenant between Christ and his Church, loss of an invaluable purity in a union between man and wife, etc., etc.

If you want to pick one specific item out of this list to argue it, I suppose I can butt heads with you for a few posts--help scratch that itch. But don't say I never did anything for you. :coffeepap
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All of which are worthy of rejection as i have already explained.

And so far you have done nothing but let other links do your arguing. You are not doing this for me you are doing for yourself, the person who makes a claim and then fails to follow through on it.
 
soylentgreen said:
Really!! I need remind you of your own words?

You said. "This IS NOT a practice of all (or even half) of the Christian faith."

This is basically trying to hide a tree in a forest. Your excuse for the bad deeds of a few is that not all practice it.
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I can't help how YOU take what I said. Nothing I said was meant to excuse any behavior. Just stating a fact to refute your broad brush implying it was a Christian practice. How you take the extreme actions of one individual to take a jab at a whole religious group is ridiculous.
 
holbritter said:
I can't help how YOU take what I said. Nothing I said was meant to excuse any behavior. Just stating a fact to refute your broad brush implying it was a Christian practice. How you take the extreme actions of one individual to take a jab at a whole religious group is ridiculous.
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It is a christian practice. You cannot deny that with a weak excuse that not all christians do it.
Nor was i pointing to just one individual, read the op again, especially the part that said.

even in the United States. For an investigation into virginity testing, Marie Claire and the Fuller Project interviewed dozens of women and medical professionals, and discovered that the procedure is still being carried out across the country, often in religious communities where parents ask doctors to perform the procedure to determine whether or not a woman is eligible for marriage.
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Your opinion is uninformed.
 
soylentgreen said:
It is a christian practice. You cannot deny that with a weak excuse that not all christians do it.
Nor was i pointing to just one individual, read the op again, especially the part that said.



Your opinion is uninformed.
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A link would be helpful, but nevermind, I found it. I stand corrected on the popularity of the procedure, however, I also found your OP is a sham, and not at all like the article itself. Nice how you misrepresented what was said. This is what it actually said (my bolding)
Marie Claire and the Fuller Project have found that not only is virginity testing being requested in the United States with frequency by both religious and secular communities and occurring here, but the practice remains wholly unregulated.

Later in the article it also says: Mahsa Hosseini, M.D., an OB-GYN in Brooklyn who treats women from Middle Eastern and Muslim communities, says women in their 20s and 30s ask her for virginity tests for two reasons: because they’re concerned that their hymen might have ripped or worn away and that they won’t bleed on their wedding night (which is expected of women in some cultures)

Why Do American Doctors Perform Virginity Tests?
 
holbritter said:
A link would be helpful, but nevermind, I found it. I stand corrected on the popularity of the procedure, however, I also found your OP is a sham, and not at all like the article itself. Nice how you misrepresented what was said. This is what it actually said (my bolding)
Marie Claire and the Fuller Project have found that not only is virginity testing being requested in the United States with frequency by both religious and secular communities and occurring here, but the practice remains wholly unregulated.

Later in the article it also says: Mahsa Hosseini, M.D., an OB-GYN in Brooklyn who treats women from Middle Eastern and Muslim communities, says women in their 20s and 30s ask her for virginity tests for two reasons: because they’re concerned that their hymen might have ripped or worn away and that they won’t bleed on their wedding night (which is expected of women in some cultures)

Why Do American Doctors Perform Virginity Tests?
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Yeeesh. Just gross.
 
holbritter said:
A link would be helpful, but nevermind, I found it. I stand corrected on the popularity of the procedure, however, I also found your OP is a sham, and not at all like the article itself. Nice how you misrepresented what was said. This is what it actually said (my bolding)
Marie Claire and the Fuller Project have found that not only is virginity testing being requested in the United States with frequency by both religious and secular communities and occurring here, but the practice remains wholly unregulated.

Later in the article it also says: Mahsa Hosseini, M.D., an OB-GYN in Brooklyn who treats women from Middle Eastern and Muslim communities, says women in their 20s and 30s ask her for virginity tests for two reasons: because they’re concerned that their hymen might have ripped or worn away and that they won’t bleed on their wedding night (which is expected of women in some cultures)

Why Do American Doctors Perform Virginity Tests?
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It is not a sham. The idea of virginity testing is a nonsense thinking of religion. that it has also spilled over to some secular as well only shames religion even more. The idea of virginity testing is to establish the value of a woman by basing her value on the fact that she is still a virgin to be offered for marriage. There is no science or secular reasoning for this. It is based only on religious dogma of what womens place is in a male dominated society.

Instead of concentrating on the problem all you seek to do is hide it away again by trying to shift the conversation onto whether a wide brush is being used. A pathetic waste of time and just another way in which the american christian can continue practicing bad behaviour.
 
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