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How my two-women experience has gone so far

While I've no desire to forward the OP in anything but a confrontational manner, I cannot help but wonder what percentage of men (and women) believe sex with more than one person at the same time, with no lying and full protections, is immoral. It's different for men and women? I guess some men would judge a woman for being with two men, but I thought us dudes get to do whatever we want as long as it's chicks.

I almost never post in this subforum mostly because I'm square. As I write that I see it, but relatively plain action I mean. Nothing weird, not to be judgmental. However, that would be an interesting poll.

Do 20% of men find sex with two women immoral? What percent of men find a woman having sex with two men immoral. That percentage might be funny in relation. If condemned, is it equally condemned. Do guys get a slap on the wrist and women burned at a stake?

Anyway, I think most people are freaks so I don't see myself making the poll and I'd rather not perpetuate a rather distasteful OP.
 
A very amusing sexual fantasy thread.
 
ecofarm said:
While I've no desire to forward the OP in anything but a confrontational manner, I cannot help but wonder what percentage of men (and women) believe sex with more than one person at the same time, with no lying and full protections, is immoral. It's different for men and women? I guess some men would judge a woman for being with two men, but I thought us dudes get to do whatever we want as long as it's chicks.

I almost never post in this subforum mostly because I'm square. As I write that I see it, but relatively plain action I mean. Nothing weird, not to be judgmental. However, that would be an interesting poll.

Do 20% of men find sex with two women immoral? What percent of men find a woman having sex with two men immoral. That percentage might be funny in relation. If condemned, is it equally condemned. Do guys get a slap on the wrist and women burned at a stake?

Anyway, I think most people are freaks so I don't see myself making the poll and I'd rather not perpetuate a rather distasteful OP.
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I don't know whether it is moral or not, but its not my cup of tea. I have been offered that more than once but never really felt the urge to pursue it. It feels like it would ruin the emotional interaction to try and focus on two people.
 
ecofarm said:
Maybe you misunderstood? I meant at the same time, all of us together. No one was lied to. It wasn't multiple separate girlfriends. It was a good night with a girlfriend and her friend(s) on occasions throughout my life.


Is that bad?
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It's not bad because you didn't have to exploit a young poor girl to do it, all were consenting and good times were had without having to pay them for their company.
 
tacomancer said:
I don't know whether it is moral or not, but its not my cup of tea. I have been offered that more than once but never really felt the urge to pursue it. It feels like it would ruin the emotional interaction to try and focus on two people.
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That's sorta how I feel about it. I can't see myself having sex with two girls at the same time. I'm all about the emotional bond, and I don't feel like constantly switching between two (or more) people. That'd be exhausting for me. Maybe in a hypothetical future situation I would try more people, 'cause I could grab one person out of the bunch and just focus on having sex with them.

I don't find it immoral in the slightest, though. It's 100% okay with me if all parties are consenting; that's what matters the most! I don't have to be into it!
 
TheGoverness said:
That's sorta how I feel about it. I can't see myself having sex with two girls at the same time. I'm all about the emotional bond, and I don't feel like constantly switching between two (or more) people. That'd be exhausting for me. Maybe in a hypothetical future situation I would try more people, 'cause I could grab one person out of the bunch and just focus on having sex with them.

I don't find it immoral in the slightest, though. It's 100% okay with me if all parties are consenting; that's what matters the most! I don't have to be into it!
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For me, on the moral aspect, its where my Christianity asserts itself. For me, its a recognition that we live in a free society and consenting adults can do what they want (which is kind of the point of a free society), but the Christian side of me cannot participate. But that is what is right for me.
 
tacomancer said:
For me, on the moral aspect, its where my Christianity asserts itself. For me, its a recognition that we live in a free society and consenting adults can do what they want (which is kind of the point of a free society), but the Christian side of me cannot participate. But that is what is right for me.
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That's fine.
 
SDET said:
Her SMV is much higher than mine. She is 18, weighs 90 pounds and have a body like a ballerina. Like I said in a previous post. I am going crazy for my upcoming chance to have her on my arm an entire week in Havana. The only open question is if she will need an internal Visa to visit another province for seven days. I want to make sure that no one has a reason to spoil the fun.
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She weighs 90 pounds and says she's 18? That is an extremely disgusting message. Good idea you're doing this in another country if real. But your messages just keep getting creepier and read like dirty old man fantasies.
 
SDET said:
One curious detail that I have noticed, each one will want their turn for exclusive undivided attention. Ignoring this detail yields unpleasant results.
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That you find this 'curious' pretty much destroys any credibility you have regarding relationships with women. You really know nothing at all and make up for it by paying women to act the way you want and to provide sex.

The only thing you know IS paying women for attention and sex.

Most other men enjoy women based on women's choice and vice versa and thus are rewarded with more genuine relationships where they are respected, rather than their wallets.
 
SDET said:
I mean actual pigs. It's a really big deal to them. They take four hours to roast. It's a hard to explain dynamic. She is my trophy and the dumb gringo (that would be me) paying for all this is her trophy. She shows me off to her extended family as kind of an indication how clever she is and what a score she has made. Her mother called everyone else out in the back yard, and said "enjoy your new girlfriend, I will give you two some alone time". When I left they said "come back any time." I asked if she had ever been on a plane. She replied never in her life. Next trip I plan to fly her with me to Havana from Holguin. She keeps bugging me on WhatsApp to hurry up and get some time off work because she never imagined being able to play tourist in Havana.

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Your honesty/clarity about all this is fascinating.

How do you feel about love? True love? Is that a thing?
 
SDET said:
One curious detail that I have noticed, each one will want their turn for exclusive undivided attention. Ignoring this detail yields unpleasant results. Some experiences that are her "favorite", she doesn't like to share. Because I don't like to waste time, I will leave it there and just say "more details upon request". Cuba is an EXCELLENT venue for this kind of experience. Also, when she does a special favor, it creates a kind of "interpersonal debt" that needs to be paid with a reciprocal favor.

When I say "she", it could be either one of the women.
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It's way-fun nailing a pair of wild American girls with options I manged to pull out of a dance club. It's not much of a thrill to nail some third world females who'd **** me for a sandwich.
 
joko104 said:
She weighs 90 pounds and says she's 18? That is an extremely disgusting message. Good idea you're doing this in another country if real. But your messages just keep getting creepier and read like dirty old man fantasies.
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I saw her Carne' de Identidad. It starts with "01". I carefully checked the photo to make sure is was *her* Carne'.

In case that doesn't make sense to you, below is a sample of a 27 year old posted online ostensibly born on July 20, 1992.
 
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tacomancer said:
I don't know whether it is moral or not, but its not my cup of tea. I have been offered that more than once but never really felt the urge to pursue it. It feels like it would ruin the emotional interaction to try and focus on two people.
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TheGoverness said:
That's sorta how I feel about it. I can't see myself having sex with two girls at the same time. I'm all about the emotional bond, and I don't feel like constantly switching between two (or more) people. That'd be exhausting for me. Maybe in a hypothetical future situation I would try more people, 'cause I could grab one person out of the bunch and just focus on having sex with them.

I don't find it immoral in the slightest, though. It's 100% okay with me if all parties are consenting; that's what matters the most! I don't have to be into it!
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Polyamory probably isn't for everyone. But there are various versions of poly, and most of them are not as difficult to maintain as they sound. Openly communicating and letting everyone know your preferences and desires are important--something that monogamous partners should be doing anyway.
 
Phys251 said:
Polyamory probably isn't for everyone. But there are various versions of poly, and most of them are not as difficult to maintain as they sound. Openly communicating and letting everyone know your preferences and desires are important--something that monogamous partners should be doing anyway.
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While lots of men think that "monk mode" is the ultimate MGTOW, I think emulating Hugh Hefner is the ultimate MGTOW. Some might consider providing for a woman in exchange for obedience is "blue pill", but it's what I prefer. I'm getting more and more skilled at finding a couple of such women. I would rather have a mistress in Latin America who puts me first on her calendar when I come to visit and stays in touch when I'm not there. Even better is someone that gets along well with my wife.

I know that I'm motivated to put in ten times the effort into having two women than I would with just one. I like the challenge. I'm still in shock that my wife didn't divorce me for having other women. The result is that I try much harder to provide her more luxury. I'm amazed at how much more **** I put up with in the workplace now that I can get what I really want with the income.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Your honesty/clarity about all this is fascinating.

How do you feel about love? True love? Is that a thing?
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I never analyzed it under a microscope, but I suspect that my sense of bonding is affected by the Aspergers. I found something that works for me and I pursue it with gusto.
 
SDET said:
I never analyzed it under a microscope, but I suspect that my sense of bonding is affected by the Aspergers. I found something that works for me and I pursue it with gusto.
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Control over and manipulation of women with money instead of interacting by respect or fondness?

Sorry, I'm not attributing that only to the Asperger's.
 
SDET said:
I never analyzed it under a microscope, but I suspect that my sense of bonding is affected by the Aspergers. I found something that works for me and I pursue it with gusto.
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Fascinating.

I don't see why you should be any more a target of criticism for your choices than a poly throuple or gay couple.

To each their own.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Fascinating.

I don't see why you should be any more a target of criticism for your choices than a poly throuple or gay couple.

To each their own.
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Because he buys it. If he was scoring hot chicks by gift of gab instead of making a cash transaction, you’d have a good point.
 
ecofarm said:
Maybe you misunderstood? I meant at the same time, all of us together. No one was lied to. It wasn't multiple separate girlfriends. It was a good night with a girlfriend and her friend(s) on occasions throughout my life.


Is that bad?
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Yes, next question.
 
SDET said:
One curious detail that I have noticed, each one will want their turn for exclusive undivided attention. Ignoring this detail yields unpleasant results. Some experiences that are her "favorite", she doesn't like to share. Because I don't like to waste time, I will leave it there and just say "more details upon request". Cuba is an EXCELLENT venue for this kind of experience. Also, when she does a special favor, it creates a kind of "interpersonal debt" that needs to be paid with a reciprocal favor.

When I say "she", it could be either one of the women.
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Is that you Mitt Romney? Are Mormons cult followers of the infamous sex pervert Joseph Smith? Do Mormons follow Joseph Smith because they enjoy sexual perversions?
 
calamity said:
Because he buys it. If he was scoring hot chicks by gift of gab instead of making a cash transaction, you’d have a good point.
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You have to start somewhere. I only understand transactional human interaction. And .... that's a hell of a lot better than being a user. There's two sides of transactional friendships: One, if you give something, you get something. Two, you get something, you give something. My friends are people with sense enough not to demand what I'm not capable of. I have lots to offer in terms of knowledge of details and raw academic intelligence. I'm a good friend to have around if you're being harassed by a bill collector, looking for a new job, in doubt regarding a tax issue, trying to fix your computer, stuck on a math/statistics problem, etc.

I have maintained a twenty year marriage on this explicit transactional basis, so don't tell me it's impossible. We trade sex and comfort on her end in exchange for being provided for and being shielded from assimilating into US society. I'm especially adept at the second part. If a store clerk for example doesn't accept a coupon that my wife is entitled to use, I'm there in a few minutes ready to sue the store for discrimination. I am able to earn a good income and successfully engage in needed transactions without assimilating into US society. I successfully do it all on an adversarial basis with a focus on forcing people to give me what I'm legally entitled to.
 
SDET said:
You have to start somewhere. I only understand transactional human interaction. And .... that's a hell of a lot better than being a user. There's two sides of transactional friendships: One, if you give something, you get something. Two, you get something, you give something. My friends are people with sense enough not to demand what I'm not capable of. I have lots to offer in terms of knowledge of details and raw academic intelligence. I'm a good friend to have around if you're being harassed by a bill collector, looking for a new job, in doubt regarding a tax issue, trying to fix your computer, stuck on a math/statistics problem, etc.

I have maintained a twenty year marriage on this explicit transactional basis, so don't tell me it's impossible. We trade sex and comfort on her end in exchange for being provided for and being shielded from assimilating into US society. I'm especially adept at the second part. If a store clerk for example doesn't accept a coupon that my wife is entitled to use, I'm there in a few minutes ready to sue the store for discrimination. I am able to earn a good income and successfully engage in needed transactions without assimilating into US society. I successfully do it all on an adversarial basis with a focus on forcing people to give me what I'm legally entitled to.
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To each his own, I guess. But, IMO, buying sex is no better than jacking off to porn; worse actually, since the porn doesn't expose one to adverse risk except maybe getting hacked.
 
Lursa said:
Control over and manipulation of women with money instead of interacting by respect or fondness?

Sorry, I'm not attributing that only to the Asperger's.
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"Fondness" requires certain functions of the brain. Respect can be simulated. That may be one of the aspects of Cuban society that I find fascinating. Because of the dictatorship, people have conditioned themselves to separate their actions and their feelings. Whenever I am "off the rails" down there, invariably someone pulls me aside and says "you are on your the way to suffering the following consequences ....." People criticize Cubans for being horrifically self-serving. It's my comfort zone. It's nice being able to explicitly relate to people in a sheer "give something; get something" posture.

Thankfully there are enough people on this planet willing to interact on an HONEST transactional basis. I'm getting pretty good at finding them.
 
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