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[W:363]accepting gay as normal

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I don’t support or condone black people being attacked or victimized in any way, but I don’t like how liberals seek to normalize them.

Yep, or those very odd left handed people. We should be very careful not to normalize the abnormal.
 
Homosexuals who are attracted to someone of the same sex. There are lots of people who lack any sense of morality and their faith in Christ that can be subject to temptation of bad morality. If you are up to date, there has been same-sex kissing parties among heterosexual girls as well as I'm sure guys as well in high schools and even middle schools. It's been going on for decades now. Breaking down inhibitions and finally ending up with reprobate minds is how its been done for decades. Just like those who smoke, drink or do drugs entice others to go along with the crowd.

So the only reason you aren't gay is because you didn't go to these..." Boys kissing boys" parties in highschool?

I have serious doubts such parties exist.
 
No, it's done during class time now. And, again, when you were young like around 3 -7 years old, you saw something or something happened in your environment that made you think about being gay. You don't remember because you were so young and we don't remember much from back then.
Interesting hypothesis. What sort of thing happening in the environment would make a 3-7 year old think about being gay? Does this only happen to people that would later identify as gay if not why does it not make people who turn out to be heterosexual think about being gay enough to later influence them?
The Reprobate mind finally happened and now you think you were born that way. Nope!
I hear this term floating around these fixated Christan groups. "Reprobate mind" as someone who is wicked or disowned by God. So a 3. Year old has the cognitive faculty's to choose wokeness and it says dormant in them after the first hypothetical "something" makes them think about being gay?

Explain please. The process fascinates me. I am a student of human behavior.
 
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Why is it unnatural to believe in God?
First and foremost, it is human nature to reject God. It is human nature to sin. You must resist your nature as Jesus demonstrated.

Also you have to be taught about God. The nature of man is sin that's what the salvation is all about.
You have heard of the God gene, haven't you? There are people that are genetically made to accept on faith that God lives. The Apostle Thomas was an example of one who did not have this predisposition to believe in God or Christ. He needed empirical proof. He needed the crucified dead Christ alive and feel his wounds to know. Then, he was able to have belief but still lacked the ability of faith. But, he still could be a Christian.
I commend you for at least attempting to apply logic and reasoning. You are falling short but keep trying. It may come natural to you :)
No, I had never heard of the God gene until you mentioned it. Found an interesting article on it, it seems largely speculative and this gene characteristic could be and most likely is a predisposition to hold any form of belief in any spirituality, be it horoscopes, the existence of ghosts or deities.

Seems the jury is still out on the god gene. Interesting theory though.
 
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No doubt, it is progress but to what end.
Betterment of society, one could argue that trying to make sure that people who are gay don't feel left out or ostracised from society is better for them. I would think kindness to our fellow man is a good idea, is worth questioning our values. We as a natural have been wrong before.
It might make many feel nice and fuzzy inside standing up for and protecting the gay lifestyle but what good is it as a whole.
Lifestyles such as any associated with homosexual orientation are already protected in the Constitution. We have the right to life liberty and the persuit of happiness. That means you can just about lead whatever lifestyle you want.
Sure the individual wins but are the few more important?
More important than what? How is society harmed by this? If society isn't harmed nobody is suggesting the few are more important.
 
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What I meant and should have said is stay out of my business in the real world. i am not out there actively trying to make liberals turn conservative and I don't want liberals fostering gay rights on me.

Well rights are understandable. Gays as well as everybody else have those by birthright. The law enforcement is society fostering those rights onto you. If you violate someone's rights you absolutely should be arrested or fined. Didn't matter if they are gay or not.

As far as marraige, one couples marriage doesn't take away from another's. So that part of it isn't being fostered onto you.

The only thing really left is LGBT activism. I support some of it and I don't other parts of it.

Banning faith healing described as"conversion therapy" is acceptable, but that's more about fraud than it is about LGBT activism. I can't sell any other good or service as a therapy without planning disclaimers on it.

Sure you can be concerned about you children's behavior. You can think they are sinful and if they are indeed homosexual that they must remain celibate. But people can tell you that is wrong especially if you make it public that you think that way. Generally speaking most people will stay out of your business if you keep it to yourself.
 
No, but something in your past environment affected you in giving it a chance as an alternative to knowing and doing what is right, heterosexual behavior.
You seem so sure if this, is it a fact you can support or your belief?
You chose the wrong and not the right. If it was a natural thing there would be more than 3-5% homosexuals in society.
First, the idea that something is good because it is natural is a logical fallacy, you are appealing to nature. A child born with likings leukemia is natural but I wouldn't consider a child suffering and dying from that good. Also unnatural things can be good, railroads for instance.

Also rarity does exist in nature, so yes you could have 3% of people be homosexual naturally.
 
No, but something in your past environment affected you in giving it a chance as an alternative to knowing and doing what is right, heterosexual behavior. You chose the wrong and not the right. If it was a natural thing there would be more than 3-5% homosexuals in society.

Um, no. Once again, me liking girls was not a choice I made. I didn't wake up one day and just decided that I liked girls.
 
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If gay is so normal, why did it take so long for... there to be so many gays running around or so called gays?

i mean, in the time of Abraham Lincoln, for example... we don't find historians talking abou gay people

oh,they all stayed in the closet..

well, i guess there is no way to prove there were fewer of them back then (if they were all in the closet) but i say there were fewer of them

when society accept and embraces something, suprrise surprise, that something increases... funny how that works

They were there. Just now society is accepting of us being out and open with it.
 
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If gay is so normal, why did it take so long for... there to be so many gays running around or so called gays?

i mean, in the time of Abraham Lincoln, for example... we don't find historians talking abou gay people

oh,they all stayed in the closet..

well, i guess there is no way to prove there were fewer of them back then (if they were all in the closet) but i say there were fewer of them

when society accept and embraces something, suprrise surprise, that something increases... funny how that works
Because if they revealed themselves, they faced death or imprisonment. There were laws on the books against same sex relationships and even just being homosexual with harsh punishments, so people hid it.

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Up front---I am not in favor of gays being attacked or victimized in any way. Their affliction is not self imposed or chosen but the result of an unfortunate act of nature and if it were the norm, most of us would not be here today.

Those, mostly on the liberal left are working hard to normalize gay behavior to the detriment of us all. How did Sodom and Gomorrah work out? The left leaning agenda has progressed so far in the media that almost every prime time show on TV includes some type of gay activity. Pandering politicians have passed laws the favor the LGBTQ crowd making them a separate protected segment of society. I have actually seen a commercial recently that had two gay men swapping spit. You can shove this stuff down my throat but I will not accept it as gospel.

I have this question of all parents of a young teenage boy. What will be the outcome after you have been brain washed into thinking that the gay life style is perfectly ok, it’s normal behavior and not to be questioned as if it were actually gods way.

This is one result I see coming down the road. Guys, think back to your early teen years when you were the victim of raging hormones. To coin an old phrase---“he would screw a snake if someone held it down”. Unpleasant statement but so true, boys and men are sexually aggressive (natures way). Your sons are or will experience the same emotions and urges as will all of his friends. Remember the good old sleepovers of the past? Just what do you think will be going on when every kid there has the same view about how normal gay sex is? Got the picture in your mind. Is that really ok with you?

Your turn, go for it.

People aren't going to turn gay.
 
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Gays are normal. Your god made them.

What isn't normal is hate, you weren't born with hate, you had to learn how to hate.

You can unlearn that, it will make you a better person.

:applaud:applaud
 
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I need to make a custom T-shirt that says "Don't blame me for being gay, blame God".

Don't forget the backside. After the religious try, and fail, to 'prove' you made a conscious decision to become gay, and weren't born that way, have 'PROVE IT!' in huge Rainbow lettering, and leave those valuable words burning in their memory as you walk away from the stupidity. :peace
 
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Don't forget the backside. After the religious try, and fail, to 'prove' you made a conscious decision to become gay, and weren't born that way, have 'PROVE IT!' in huge Rainbow lettering, and leave those valuable words burning in their memory as you walk away from the stupidity. :peace

Lol, yeah. Take it to the pride rally this year. :)

The best thing I've done at a pride rally is kiss my girlfriend in front of the idiots with signs. Feels good, man. :)
 
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Gays are not normal, they are exceptional! Like people who are left handed, or have a genius IQ.

LGBT is just a different way to walk lifes journey. As long as you aren't being rude, crude, lewd or an asshat... no one should say boo.
 
Up front---I am not in favor of gays being attacked or victimized in any way. Their affliction is not self imposed or chosen but the result of an unfortunate act of nature and if it were the norm, most of us would not be here today.

Those, mostly on the liberal left are working hard to normalize gay behavior to the detriment of us all. How did Sodom and Gomorrah work out? The left leaning agenda has progressed so far in the media that almost every prime time show on TV includes some type of gay activity. Pandering politicians have passed laws the favor the LGBTQ crowd making them a separate protected segment of society. I have actually seen a commercial recently that had two gay men swapping spit. You can shove this stuff down my throat but I will not accept it as gospel.

I have this question of all parents of a young teenage boy. What will be the outcome after you have been brain washed into thinking that the gay life style is perfectly ok, it’s normal behavior and not to be questioned as if it were actually gods way.

This is one result I see coming down the road. Guys, think back to your early teen years when you were the victim of raging hormones. To coin an old phrase---“he would screw a snake if someone held it down”. Unpleasant statement but so true, boys and men are sexually aggressive (natures way). Your sons are or will experience the same emotions and urges as will all of his friends. Remember the good old sleepovers of the past? Just what do you think will be going on when every kid there has the same view about how normal gay sex is? Got the picture in your mind. Is that really ok with you?

Your turn, go for it.

:lamo

If the only thing stopping you from having sex with men was a bunch of negative social consequences, chances are you are at least bi. Nothing wrong with that, at least until you tried to use it to make the idiotic and bigoted claim that if we do not mistreat gay people, our sons will suddenly start topping each other at every opportunity. That simply isn't how any of this works.

And stop trying to hide bigotry behind religion. It's a cowardly display.
 
Uh, no.

Again, this is an unsupported claim based on your opinion, not any sort of research or evidence.

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Show me any research that claims 100% that people are born gay. You won't be able to find it. It doesn't exist. At best, it's a 50-50 result with every study over the last 30 years. It's your claim that isn't supported.
 
:lamo

If the only thing stopping you from having sex with men was a bunch of negative social consequences, chances are you are at least bi. Nothing wrong with that, at least until you tried to use it to make the idiotic and bigoted claim that if we do not mistreat gay people, our sons will suddenly start topping each other at every opportunity. That simply isn't how any of this works.

And stop trying to hide bigotry behind religion. It's a cowardly display.

Where did he claim that we should mistreat gay people? You lied about that. He made no such statements. See, this is how the left always behaves. Just like Adam Schiff made up the phone call of Trumps. Maybe atheists should work on becoming faithful in God so that they would stop believing it's okay to lie about what people say. Or are you hiding behind your bigotry towards religious people?
 
Where did he claim that we should mistreat gay people? You lied about that. He made no such statements. See, this is how the left always behaves. Just like Adam Schiff made up the phone call of Trumps. Maybe atheists should work on becoming faithful in God so that they would stop believing it's okay to lie about what people say. Or are you hiding behind your bigotry towards religious people?

This is a lot like the "Chewbacca Defense"
 
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LGBT is just a different way to walk lifes journey. As long as you aren't being rude, crude, lewd or an asshat... no one should say boo.

And, I agree. The problem is that more and more LGBTQs are shoving their homosexual behavior in our faces. I rented space in an office from a lesbian I had known for decades. Her significant other worked as the receptionist in the office. I got a long with both of them as did everyone else who was straight. They were the only gays. Most of the people, over 100, were all heterosexual and religious as well. Why? Because at no time did they shove it in our face. Even when they had an office party at their very nice and large home for Christmas. They didn't play kissy-face and that crap. They understood that their business was based on us who paid rent and whom they overrided our sales.
 
This is a lot like the "Chewbacca Defense"

Where did he say what you said he said? He didn't. This is typical leftists who refuse to admit when they are wrong and lie. Just admit that he didn't say anything that would say he mistreated anyone? Man up!
 
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Lol, yeah. Take it to the pride rally this year. :)

The best thing I've done at a pride rally is kiss my girlfriend in front of the idiots with signs. Feels good, man. :)

You like to make people feel bad? Is that hospitable? Nope.
 
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We hate the sin, not the sinner. Liberals hate the sinner but not the sin...

Who is this 'We' you speak of ? And you aren't going to win any arguments by putting YOUR words in OTHER's mouths, FYI.
 
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