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[W:363]accepting gay as normal

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Moonglow said:
Where in the Bible does Jesus say to discriminate and hate gay folks?
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The fact that Jesus hung out with 12 men should tell you something.
 
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Mashmont said:
Glad you think you can speak for Spacey and Miley.
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You mean like you repeatedly spoke for the Duggars and claimed on young Duggar's behalf, when he sexually groped his sleeping sister, he was only doing what normal male youths do to their sleeping sisters ?
 
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Logician Man said:
You mean like you repeatedly spoke for the Duggars and claimed on young Duggar's behalf, when he sexually groped his sleeping sister, he was only doing what normal male youths do to their sleeping sisters ?
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You do bring up an interesting point I'm sure he's gonna miss, so I'll cover it.

For young Sir Duggar, his desire for a young lady probably wasn't a decision, since its pretty unlikely that he would decide his sister was the one. That lends itself to the idea that it wasn't the WHO that drove his desire, but the what (being a girl of any kind).

Point being that if one can be drawn to ones sibling, its way more likely that they are driven by instinct and not choice. Making sexual attraction inherent and not chosen.
 
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bullseyelqcs said:
You do bring up an interesting point I'm sure he's gonna miss, so I'll cover it.

For young Sir Duggar, his desire for a young lady probably wasn't a decision, since its pretty unlikely that he would decide his sister was the one. That lends itself to the idea that it wasn't the WHO that drove his desire, but the what (being a girl of any kind).

Point being that if one can be drawn to ones sibling, its way more likely that they are driven by instinct and not choice. Making sexual attraction inherent and not chosen.
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Ewwww ! That instinct stinks! :doh
 
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CherubRam said:
The things you are saying to me are not logical. There are things people can and can not choose. Morality is a choice.
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The evidence is that sexual orientation is not a choice. Yes, "morality" as you define it for yourself is a choice. Maybe your sexual orientation is homosexual. You can of course live as a straight person, because you believe to have gay sex is immoral. That's not to say you choose to be straight, that your sexual orientation is heterosexual.

My brother is a decent example. He dated the same woman for about 10 years, got married. He was always gay, but he lived as a straight person during that time. Ultimately he and his wife decided to divorce, because it was to both of them living a lie, dishonest really, and unfair to them both. She knew going into the marriage he was gay but thought it could work. It didn't.

It's true he "chooses" to live as a gay person, immorally I guess to you, but that's saying nothing any idiot doesn't know. I obviously "chose" to marry my wife. I did not "choose" to be attracted to women, and cannot "choose" to be attracted to men, to desire a loving sexual relationship with men, although I'm sure under the right circumstances I could have gay sex.
 
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Mashmont said:
Yes, the president did some unfortunate things back when he was a liberal Democrat. Very pleased he has transformed his life to become the great man he is. St. Paul made a similar transformation. And he's a revered saint.
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Please tell me you're not comparing Trump to an actual saint....

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AProudLefty said:
Then you didn't choose, you were born being straight. Make up your mind.
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I said i remembered when I first chose to act on my straightness. You didn't read.
 
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Mashmont said:
I said i remembered when I chose to act on my straightness.
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"On my straightness" means you were ALREADY straight.

"That burger sure smell delicious! I am going to eat that." <---------- You are acting on what you were born for.
 
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Logician Man said:
You mean like you repeatedly spoke for the Duggars and claimed on young Duggar's behalf, when he sexually groped his sleeping sister, he was only doing what normal male youths do to their sleeping sisters ?
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What young guy doesn't have a misstep now and then? I wonder if leftwingers are as hard on their own kids when they screw up as they are on young Josh when he was a child.
 
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JasperL said:
Please tell me you're not comparing Trump to an actual saint....

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Not just a Saint, a dude that wrote in the Bible.
 
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AProudLefty said:
"On my straightness" means you were ALREADY straight.

"That burger sure smell delicious! I am going to eat that." <---------- You are acting on what you were born for.
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But interestingly, gay celebrities Keven Spacey and Miley Cyrus both said they chose to be gay. I didn't say that. They did.
 
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JasperL said:
Please tell me you're not comparing Trump to an actual saint....

:2rofll:
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There are a lot of comparisons of Trump to St. Paul, and even to Jesus, Himself.
 
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Mashmont said:
But interestingly, gay celebrities Keven Spacey and Miley Cyrus both said they chose to be gay. I didn't say that. They did.
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Yes that is because they're bisexual. That should be simple enough for you to understand.
 
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Mashmont said:
But interestingly, gay celebrities Keven Spacey and Miley Cyrus both said they chose to be gay. I didn't say that. They did.
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They both say they are choosing to be with someone of the same sex......that isn't the answer to the question you think it is though.

The question asked of them isn't if they ever had to decide if someone of the same sex was attractive to them. I would bet dollars to donuts that the answer to that question for both of them would be no, they never had to decide that. It just came naturally.

Thats the point.
 
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Mashmont said:
There are a lot of comparisons of Trump to St. Paul, and even to Jesus, Himself.
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I'm genuinely concerned you appear to be serious... :shock:
 
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Mashmont said:
What young guy doesn't have a misstep now and then? I wonder if leftwingers are as hard on their own kids when they screw up as they are on young Josh when he was a child.
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Sexually assaulting a sleeping sister is NOT a 'misstep.' It is a sign of a person with a major mental malfunction, and those who attempt to minalmalize such things are enablers.
 
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Mashmont said:
What young guy doesn't have a misstep now and then? I wonder if leftwingers are as hard on their own kids when they screw up as they are on young Josh when he was a child.
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Hell yeah I would be. If I caught my son feeling up his sister, I would absolutely not just shrug it off as youthful indiscretion. What the **** is wrong with you?
 
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Logician Man said:
Sexually assaulting a sleeping sister is NOT a 'misstep.' It is a sign of a person with a major mental malfunction, and those who attempt to minalmalize such things are enablers.
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A misstep!!!!!!!!


Holy cow!!!!!!
 
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bullseyelqcs said:
Hell yeah I would be. If I caught my son feeling up his sister, I would absolutely not just shrug it off as youthful indiscretion. What the **** is wrong with you?
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What do you expect from someone who worships a POTUS who advocates "grab em by the p**sy! ?
 
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bullseyelqcs said:
Hell yeah I would be. If I caught my son feeling up his sister, I would absolutely not just shrug it off as youthful indiscretion. What the **** is wrong with you?
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If you read the posts in here, these people want Josh crucified for something that happened when he himself was a child. I just wonder if they'd want their own kids crucified for this. I tend to cut a child some slack on his mistakes.
 
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