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[W:363]accepting gay as normal

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Da Mole said:
No doubt, it is progress but to what end. It might make many feel nice and fuzzy inside standing up for and protecting the gay lifestyle but what good is it as a whole. Sure the individual wins but are the few more important?
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You're digging yourself a big hole here.

A society that protects gay rights also protects your rights, those of Muslims, Jews, non-believers, liberals, conservatives, Christians, Catholics, blacks, native Americans, etc. It's not about "the individual" but of a society that protects the rights of all of us, allows each of us to make our own way, unmolested by the state, unless and until we harm others. Gay people want NOTHING to do with you, I can promise you that. So you live as you want, and in a free society they - everyone not like YOU - can do the same.

What you're suggesting is those YOU don't approve of be discriminated against and victimized. It's really not more complicated than that. It's not a good look, but if you believe it you should be honest about it, and not start an OP premised on a lie.
 
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Da Mole said:
Up front---I am not in favor of gays being attacked or victimized in any way. Their affliction is not self imposed or chosen but the result of an unfortunate act of nature and if it were the norm, most of us would not be here today.

Those, mostly on the liberal left are working hard to normalize gay behavior to the detriment of us all. How did Sodom and Gomorrah work out? The left leaning agenda has progressed so far in the media that almost every prime time show on TV includes some type of gay activity. Pandering politicians have passed laws the favor the LGBTQ crowd making them a separate protected segment of society. I have actually seen a commercial recently that had two gay men swapping spit. You can shove this stuff down my throat but I will not accept it as gospel.

I have this question of all parents of a young teenage boy. What will be the outcome after you have been brain washed into thinking that the gay life style is perfectly ok, it’s normal behavior and not to be questioned as if it were actually gods way.

This is one result I see coming down the road. Guys, think back to your early teen years when you were the victim of raging hormones. To coin an old phrase---“he would screw a snake if someone held it down”. Unpleasant statement but so true, boys and men are sexually aggressive (natures way). Your sons are or will experience the same emotions and urges as will all of his friends. Remember the good old sleepovers of the past? Just what do you think will be going on when every kid there has the same view about how normal gay sex is? Got the picture in your mind. Is that really ok with you?

Your turn, go for it.
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What a pile of unadulterated, homophobic rubbish-and I'm being kind. First, there is no 'god' so let's get that little fantasy of yours out of the way. Secondly, gay and lesbian sexuality is as normal to them as heterosexuality is to heterosexuals. You need to get out more; like most religious nutters and conservatives should...
 
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Tolerance and acceptance are two different things.
 
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Da Mole said:
Up front---I am not in favor of gays being attacked or victimized in any way. Their affliction is not self imposed or chosen but the result of an unfortunate act of nature and if it were the norm, most of us would not be here today.

Those, mostly on the liberal left are working hard to normalize gay behavior to the detriment of us all. How did Sodom and Gomorrah work out? The left leaning agenda has progressed so far in the media that almost every prime time show on TV includes some type of gay activity. Pandering politicians have passed laws the favor the LGBTQ crowd making them a separate protected segment of society. I have actually seen a commercial recently that had two gay men swapping spit. You can shove this stuff down my throat but I will not accept it as gospel.

I have this question of all parents of a young teenage boy. What will be the outcome after you have been brain washed into thinking that the gay life style is perfectly ok, it’s normal behavior and not to be questioned as if it were actually gods way.

This is one result I see coming down the road. Guys, think back to your early teen years when you were the victim of raging hormones. To coin an old phrase---“he would screw a snake if someone held it down”. Unpleasant statement but so true, boys and men are sexually aggressive (natures way). Your sons are or will experience the same emotions and urges as will all of his friends. Remember the good old sleepovers of the past? Just what do you think will be going on when every kid there has the same view about how normal gay sex is? Got the picture in your mind. Is that really ok with you?

Your turn, go for it.
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Jesus ****ing christ the amount of dumb spewed by right wingers and homophobes is unreal.

For the last ****ing time bigots, ATTRACTION IS NOT A CHOICE.

Nobody is going to become gay simply because homosexuality is accepted. You can't choose who you are attracted to. If homosexuality was a choice, frat houses would be giant orgies since guys are more horny and DTF as women.

HOmosexuals have existed for all of humanity, exist in the wild, so they are already normal
 
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Excast said:
So your assertion is that because society accepts gay people as normal, usually straight young men are going to magically become gay if they have a sleepover?

Umm...ok.
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The real topic is how we have normalized and accepted the rank stupidity of the OP.
 
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Da Mole said:
From Wikipedia.
Sodom and Gomorrah have been used historically and in modern discourse as metaphors for homosexuality, and are the origin of the English words, sodomite, a pejorative term for male homosexuals, and sodomy, which is used in a legal context to describe sexual crimes against nature, namely anal or oral sex (particularly homosexual) and bestiality.[7][8][9] This is based upon exegesis of the biblical text interpreting divine judgement upon Sodom and Gomorrah as punishment for the sin of homosexuality, though some contemporary scholars dispute this interpretation.[10][11][12] Some Islamic societies incorporate punishments associated with Sodom and Gomorrah into sharia.[13]

This is the interpretation that I based my remarks upon.
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Who gives a flying **** about a 2000 year old book of Bronze Age mythology? Do you believe there are four-faced beings driving flaming chariots through the sky? That's the intellectual and reality level of your ridiculous bible.
 
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Da Mole said:
How about instead of promoting and grandising, just ignore.
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Like you're doing? No, you're making a point of emphasising how unacceptable (and probably 'yucky'), you find the idea of gay sex. I'll bet you don't mind watching some girl on girl action though...
 
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swing_voter said:
Lot offered up his daughters to save an angel. If you're familiar with the rest of the story, the angel didn't need saving.
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Well that makes it okay then.
 
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swing_voter said:
Lot offered up his daughters to save an angel. If you're familiar with the rest of the story, the angel didn't need saving.
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And was genderless. Additionally the angel was there to inflict God's wrath should Lit not come up with any righteous men in the city, proving god already planned to destroy them. And none of the actual Jewish Jewish about Sodom support the Christian (some anyway) narrative that it was destroyed because of the gays. That is based on an ignorant understanding of homosexuality vs using sex to exert power and humiliation on others, particularly establishing dominance over newcomers, a somewhat common practice in those times in many places that had nothing to do with sexuality.

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Da Mole said:
From Wikipedia.
Sodom and Gomorrah have been used historically and in modern discourse as metaphors for homosexuality, and are the origin of the English words, sodomite, a pejorative term for male homosexuals, and sodomy, which is used in a legal context to describe sexual crimes against nature, namely anal or oral sex (particularly homosexual) and bestiality.[7][8][9] This is based upon exegesis of the biblical text interpreting divine judgement upon Sodom and Gomorrah as punishment for the sin of homosexuality, though some contemporary scholars dispute this interpretation.[10][11][12] Some Islamic societies incorporate punishments associated with Sodom and Gomorrah into sharia.[13]

This is the interpretation that I based my remarks upon.
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Which is a failed interpretation full of misunderstanding about what homosexuality is. Hint it is not about simply having sex with someone of the same sex.

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Da Mole said:
Up front---I am not in favor of gays being attacked or victimized in any way. Their affliction is not self imposed or chosen but the result of an unfortunate act of nature and if it were the norm, most of us would not be here today.
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1. I think that some members and guests (including me) think that you are sincere when you say in one of your posts in this thread that you do NOT "hate" gays.

2. I also feel that you would be horrified if a gay were beaten up and/or verbally bullied.

3. And you agree that feeling sexual affection for the same sex is NOT a choice.

a. I believe that the Catholic Church now accepts gays if they remain celibate.

4. "I feel your pain," as President William Jefferson Clinton used to say.

5. I have read that sexuality is a continuum: Some people are 100% straight and some are 100% gay. Most people fall in between the extremes. That's why some men in prison or the army have intimate relations with other men but stop them when they return to regular society.

6. Personally, I think that the ideal society is one in which gays live their lives without any harassment from anyone, and the gays in turn refrain from any public declaration of their orientation. I can think of one country in which being gay has traditionally been a non-issue. This situation may, however, be changing, for I have read that a few gays there are now demanding the right to marry.


Have a nice day!
 
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Da Mole said:
Up front---I am not in favor of gays being attacked or victimized in any way. Their affliction is not self imposed or chosen but the result of an unfortunate act of nature and if it were the norm, most of us would not be here today.

Those, mostly on the liberal left are working hard to normalize gay behavior to the detriment of us all. How did Sodom and Gomorrah work out? The left leaning agenda has progressed so far in the media that almost every prime time show on TV includes some type of gay activity. Pandering politicians have passed laws the favor the LGBTQ crowd making them a separate protected segment of society. I have actually seen a commercial recently that had two gay men swapping spit. You can shove this stuff down my throat but I will not accept it as gospel.

I have this question of all parents of a young teenage boy. What will be the outcome after you have been brain washed into thinking that the gay life style is perfectly ok, it’s normal behavior and not to be questioned as if it were actually gods way.

This is one result I see coming down the road. Guys, think back to your early teen years when you were the victim of raging hormones. To coin an old phrase---“he would screw a snake if someone held it down”. Unpleasant statement but so true, boys and men are sexually aggressive (natures way). Your sons are or will experience the same emotions and urges as will all of his friends. Remember the good old sleepovers of the past? Just what do you think will be going on when every kid there has the same view about how normal gay sex is? Got the picture in your mind. Is that really ok with you?

Your turn, go for it.
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Holy bigotry Batman!

I got bad news for you homosexuals have been around since the beginning of existence of male and female organisms. Gays have been observed in the animal kingdom this is a natural occurrence

They comprise some 2% of the entire population and that has been the norm for a long long time. There's nothing abnormal about gay people no more than their being black or Asian is abnormal

Did you know that when you ask a young boy before the age of 8 if he would kiss a girl and that he typically looks at you and says oohh that's yucky? I'd say that reaction is rather common in young boys before the age of eight

Does that mean he's going to grow up to be gay? No, most children are homosexual before the age of eight they convert to hetrosexual by their preteen years. About 2% do not and remain gay.. so, caveat, this is been my observation of kids I'm no child psychologist so go ask an expert. This is my recollection of chidhood -' young boys played with each other whenever they could get away with it it was only natural we didn't think about girls till about eight 9, 10 or so. My attraction for girls really didn't get strong until about the third grade. By the sixth grade the hormones really kicked in
 
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I have no issues with gay rights or gay marriage.
The idea of using tax dollars to pay for sex change operations kind of bothers me, though.
 
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Da Mole said:
I have this question of all parents of a young teenage boy. What will be the outcome after you have been brain washed into thinking that the gay life style is perfectly ok, it’s normal behavior and not to be questioned as if it were actually gods way.
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If someone is gay, why on earth should they be led to believe it's wrong to be gay? To not have a relationship with the person whom you are attracted to? What would be the purpose in that?

And there is no 'gay lifestyle'...name one thing besides having sex with the same gender that gays do differently than straight people? Does having sex with the opposite gender define a 'heterosexual lifestyle?' Certainly intercourse alone does not define most people's 'lifestyles.'
 
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Da Mole said:
This is one result I see coming down the road. Guys, think back to your early teen years when you were the victim of raging hormones. To coin an old phrase---“he would screw a snake if someone held it down”. Unpleasant statement but so true, boys and men are sexually aggressive (natures way). Your sons are or will experience the same emotions and urges as will all of his friends. Remember the good old sleepovers of the past? Just what do you think will be going on when every kid there has the same view about how normal gay sex is? Got the picture in your mind. Is that really ok with you?
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Where are the sources that claim that early sexual experiences or experimentation alter someone's sexual orientation? Do straight teens fall in love with every girl (or boy) they sleep with? And teens shouldnt be having sex at 'sleepovers,' that's what parents are for...to chaparone. It wouldnt be right IMO for teens to be sleeping with anyone then, gay or straight.
 
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Why do so many conservatives obsess over other peoples' sex lives?
 
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Da Mole said:
Get real-------I did not say they would become gay. I said that they would perform gay sex acts because there was no stigma against it.
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So you are saying Society should impose a stigma on the gay sex act?

You know that's a form of bigotry, don't you?

And you do know that some heterosexuals also practice anal sex, as well, don't you?
 
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apdst said:
Tolerance and acceptance are two different things.
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Well they are two different words which are used in different contexts but they are similar.
 
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OscarLevant said:
Well they are two different words which are used in different contexts but they are similar.
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They two different things...

tol·er·ance
/ˈtäl(ə)rəns/
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noun
1.
the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.

ac·cept·ance
/əkˈseptəns/

the action or process of being received as adequate or suitable, typically to be admitted into a group.
 
Re: accepting gay as normal

Da Mole said:
Up front---I am not in favor of gays being attacked or victimized in any way. Their affliction is not self imposed or chosen but the result of an unfortunate act of nature and if it were the norm, most of us would not be here today.

Those, mostly on the liberal left are working hard to normalize gay behavior to the detriment of us all. How did Sodom and Gomorrah work out? The left leaning agenda has progressed so far in the media that almost every prime time show on TV includes some type of gay activity. Pandering politicians have passed laws the favor the LGBTQ crowd making them a separate protected segment of society. I have actually seen a commercial recently that had two gay men swapping spit. You can shove this stuff down my throat but I will not accept it as gospel.

I have this question of all parents of a young teenage boy. What will be the outcome after you have been brain washed into thinking that the gay life style is perfectly ok, it’s normal behavior and not to be questioned as if it were actually gods way.

This is one result I see coming down the road. Guys, think back to your early teen years when you were the victim of raging hormones. To coin an old phrase---“he would screw a snake if someone held it down”. Unpleasant statement but so true, boys and men are sexually aggressive (natures way). Your sons are or will experience the same emotions and urges as will all of his friends. Remember the good old sleepovers of the past? Just what do you think will be going on when every kid there has the same view about how normal gay sex is? Got the picture in your mind. Is that really ok with you?

Your turn, go for it.
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You can't use the Bible as an excuse to pass judgment on gay people. That's not your task as a Christian. Your task is to love and tolerate God's plan, and accept that people have free will. Only God can judge. Do you not understand this?

You can use your free will to love or to hate. There are many, many Christians who accept gay people. I have friends who do, and although I am an ex-Catholic at this point, I also know that God is good.

You can't hide behind your Christianity because other Christians are doing the opposite of you and accepting their neighbors. Your duty is clear. Ignore it at your own peril.
 
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Da Mole said:
Up front---I am not in favor of gays being attacked or victimized in any way. Their affliction is not self imposed or chosen but the result of an unfortunate act of nature and if it were the norm, most of us would not be here today.

Those, mostly on the liberal left are working hard to normalize gay behavior to the detriment of us all. How did Sodom and Gomorrah work out? The left leaning agenda has progressed so far in the media that almost every prime time show on TV includes some type of gay activity. Pandering politicians have passed laws the favor the LGBTQ crowd making them a separate protected segment of society. I have actually seen a commercial recently that had two gay men swapping spit. You can shove this stuff down my throat but I will not accept it as gospel.

I have this question of all parents of a young teenage boy. What will be the outcome after you have been brain washed into thinking that the gay life style is perfectly ok, it’s normal behavior and not to be questioned as if it were actually gods way.

This is one result I see coming down the road. Guys, think back to your early teen years when you were the victim of raging hormones. To coin an old phrase---“he would screw a snake if someone held it down”. Unpleasant statement but so true, boys and men are sexually aggressive (natures way). Your sons are or will experience the same emotions and urges as will all of his friends. Remember the good old sleepovers of the past? Just what do you think will be going on when every kid there has the same view about how normal gay sex is? Got the picture in your mind. Is that really ok with you?

Your turn, go for it.
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I don't think we are in trouble of losing straight men through gay orientation or experimentation.............. as you are putting it in not so many words.

I am attracted to Girls and Lady's................period.

The best friend I ever had in the Navy was gay, and we did everything together for the 2 years we were stationed together. My wife kept a spare bedroom for him in our Navy Housing unit.

You need to get over this crap.................that you were probably raised with.
 
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Cardinal said:
I don’t support or condone black people being attacked or victimized in any way, but I don’t like how liberals seek to normalize them.
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Dumbest statement I ever saw on here.
 
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RetiredUSN said:
I don't think we are in trouble of losing straight men through gay orientation or experimentation.............. as you are putting it in not so many words.

I am attracted to Girls and Lady's................period.

The best friend I ever had in the Navy was gay, and we did everything together for the 2 years we were stationed together. My wife kept a spare bedroom for him in our Navy Housing unit.

You need to get over this crap.................that you were probably raised with.
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Do you really mean you did "everything" together? Nobody says they are inherently bad people but their sexual behavior is not normal and not OK.
 
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