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    Re: [W:363]accepting gay as normal

    Quote Originally Posted by dixon01767 View Post
    No its saying homosexual couples don't procreate. A gay man and a gay or lesbian woman procreate just fine.
    Fair enough..

    My point is that you are subjectively applying a negative or positive meaning to the term..

    Nothing stopping the dad from a nuclear family being a child molester..


    Nuclear family kinda means what is the base/starting/boiled down to its base parts of a set up for a family...

    Aka a male , female and the child/children they made..

    Obviously a step/grandparent/Gay modern family would be a far better option than a child molester nuclear family..

    It is called a false equivalency


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    Re: [W:363]accepting gay as normal

    Quote Originally Posted by dixon01767 View Post
    That's at the most ONE of the gay couple and a third person procreating. Not the gay couple. And while heterosexual sex has a tendency to lead to procreation, homosexual sex has no tendency to lead to surrogacy or sperm donors.
    That's by and large true, but heterosexual sex also has a tendency to lead to unwanted procreation. In any way you go about it, a gay couple has to go through a lot more steps to have children and its a VERY deliberate process at that. Therefore many homosexual couples (including the vast majority of gay male couples) usually do adoption. Most gay people who do chose to raise children don't do the procreating part themselves. This is actually suggested to be partly the cause of homosexuality in species because of a need for there to be members of the species that can adopt young that for one reason or another do not have a mother/father to care for them. More research is still being conducted on this but it's fascinating to look into if you get a chance.

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    Re: [W:363]accepting gay as normal

    Quote Originally Posted by dixon01767 View Post
    There are literally 1000s of laws that discriminate between married and unmarried couples. Are you going to continue with the stupid act and pretend you are not aware of any of them? For purpose of discussion lets use the exemption from estate taxes upon the death of one of a married couple, not available to unmarried couples. Did you have some point you wanted to make about this discrimination in the law or just stupid questions unrelated to any relevant point in an attempt to hide the fact that you have nothing relevant to contribute?
    I have no idea what tangent you are going on or why... I said that it is not equal to allow heterosexuals to get married and then to deny homosexuals from getting married... but you keep having whatever internal discussions you are having and keep attributing them to me!

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    Re: [W:363]accepting gay as normal

    Quote Originally Posted by dixon01767 View Post
    No its saying homosexual couples don't procreate. A gay man and a gay or lesbian woman procreate just fine.
    Not with the partner they are are including in the nuclear family..

    Call me crazy this should not be an issue...

    The whole fight here is over trying to apply a negative or positive meaning to a neutral word..


    It is a neural descriptive term.....

    modern family people/gay rights groups/exc are applying a positive meaning to the word, and deciding they want in the car, so the definition should be expanded to include them too...

    When nuclear family doesn’t mean good.. it means “the simplest form of a family”.. the minimum required to make one..

    Man , woman and the children they produce, assuming they stay together of course..


    We call step/gay/exc parents a modern family.. now there is nothing modern about it... they are old as anything else, but it is just the terminology used..


    Imho .....


    How many people on the fence have been flipped to the “dark side” do to silly and irrelevant examples of “over reach”.

    For example...

    The gay rights movement started out asking for civil unions, right??

    But the conservatives held out for so long being stubborn that public opinion had shifted enough for them to win expanding the definition of marriage to include gay couples as well...

    (Something I could not possible care less about..... just so you don’t think I am against it or something... I am absolutely not.. this is an example.)


    Well how much play has the conservative side gotten off of the “gay marriage” narrative???

    How many people on the fence might not have bought into their garbage without them being able to point to the expansion of marriage to include gays as an example of over reach??




    History is a wash , rinse repeat of revolution and counter revolution..

    2 steps forward and one step back..

    The smallest and silliest examples of over reach become the fuel that powers the the counter revolution that erases half the progress made.. and offer the examples of over reach are fabricated, so giving them low hanging fruit is crazy.

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    Re: [W:363]accepting gay as normal

    Quote Originally Posted by dixon01767 View Post
    Gay guys can close their eyes and imagine ... some hot boy butt.
    So that is what you day dream about...

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