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    Re: Germany just ban conversion therapy for minors

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    Re: Germany just ban conversion therapy for minors

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    Re: Germany just ban conversion therapy for minors

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    Welp, it's not just in the U.S of A that places are making conversion therapy for minors illegal. Germany just did so.

    Germany bans so-called gay conversion therapy for minors - CBS News
    That's too bad.

    From a scientific standpoint, conversion therapy doesn't work.

    But government has no business evaluating which therapies work and don't work and banning therapies as a consequence. As long as a willing adult client voluntarily engages in therapy with a therapist, that is no one's business outside of that therapeutic relationship.

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    Re: Germany just ban conversion therapy for minors

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrodom View Post
    That's too bad.

    From a scientific standpoint, conversion therapy doesn't work.

    But government has no business evaluating which therapies work and don't work and banning therapies as a consequence. As long as a willing adult client voluntarily engages in therapy with a therapist, that is no one's business outside of that therapeutic relationship.
    It says it banned it for minors. It did not say it banned it for adults.
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    Re: Germany just ban conversion therapy for minors

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    It says it banned it for minors. It did not say it banned it for adults.
    You are correct. I overlooked that. Most of the legislation in this country, though, seeks to ban it for everyone.

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    Re: Germany just ban conversion therapy for minors

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrodom View Post
    You are correct. I overlooked that. Most of the legislation in this country, though, seeks to ban it for everyone.
    I have yet to see it banned for adults anyplace in this country. Can you provide a link where conversion therapy has been banned for adults?
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    Re: Germany just ban conversion therapy for minors

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    I have yet to see it banned for adults anyplace in this country. Can you provide a link where conversion therapy has been banned for adults?
    Movement Advancement Project | Conversion Therapy Laws
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    Re: Germany just ban conversion therapy for minors

    And not one of those states says 'everyone', but specifically says 'minors'
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    Re: Germany just ban conversion therapy for minors

    Quote Originally Posted by RAMOSS View Post
    And not one of those states says 'everyone', but specifically says 'minors'
    It is protected in religious institutions, but I don't think that an insurance company can force an adult to take part in or pay for it.

    I think that religious institutions must tell patients that it is not scientifically effective and then they must be open to civil judgments at a later date from the patient or their family. We as a society must inform and protect consumers from fraud.
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    Re: Germany just ban conversion therapy for minors

    As a basis for argument, can anyone point out what specific "conversion therapy" practices are being banned?

    I've seen electroshock and group shaming/humiliation exercises mentioned. What exactly falls under the "conversion therapy" tent, and what's being made illegal? The article in the OP offers no information whatsoever.

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