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Germany just ban conversion therapy for minors

bomberfox said:
Morality that is a slave to tradition keeps society in the naked caveman stage. Morality concocted without reason will do the same.
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Why preach against sexual immorality? The high personal and societal cost of dealing with the consequences of epidemics of sexually transmitted diseases comes to mind as one factor.
 
bomberfox said:
Then you should be able to provide the data then. Kiddy diddling is nowhere near the same as a man being attracted to another adult man.
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Why do you think adult homosexual men like Kevin Jennings advocated the legalization of 'consensual' sex between old men and little boys? Because they are Catholics?
 
marke said:
Why preach against sexual immorality? The high personal and societal cost of dealing with the consequences of epidemics of sexually transmitted diseases comes to mind as one factor.
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And that works out so well.

Abstinence-Only Education and Teen Pregnancy Rates: Why We Need Comprehensive Sex Education in the U.S

As far as STDs go"

Research Confirms That Abstinence-Only Education Hurts Kids

The researchers noted that the spread of AOUMs in recent years has created meaningful setbacks to the development and efficacy of HIV prevention, sex education, and family planning programs at home and worldwide. According to reviewed data, the number of schools requiring study of human sexuality fell from 67% in 2002 to just 48% by 2014, with rates of required HIV prevention education dropping from 67% to 41% in the same period. Meanwhile, the number of students who report having had some instruction on birth control methods has fallen by close to 25% since the mid '90s.
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marke said:
Why preach against sexual immorality? The high personal and societal cost of dealing with the consequences of epidemics of sexually transmitted diseases comes to mind as one factor.
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Homosexuality isnt what causes aids epidemics....
 
marke said:
Why do you think adult homosexual men like Kevin Jennings advocated the legalization of 'consensual' sex between old men and little boys? Because they are Catholics?
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Pedophilia is not the same. Two men who consent. The catholic church sure knew something about diddling choir boys though!
 
bomberfox said:
Pedophilia is not the same. Two men who consent. The catholic church sure knew something about diddling choir boys though!
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Educated American NAMBLA officials and supporters like Kevin Jennings are not trying to get sex between men legalized. That is already legal. They are trying to get sex between old men and little boys legalized, which is currently illegal due to the Christian influence in America's laws against barbarian perversions.
 
marke said:
Educated American NAMBLA officials and supporters like Kevin Jennings are not trying to get sex between men legalized. That is already legal. They are trying to get sex between old men and little boys legalized, which is currently illegal due to the Christian influence in America's laws against barbarian perversions.
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Lol ok bub. You just compared homosexuality to pedophilia earlier in the forum so i camt take you seriously.
 
marke said:
Educated American NAMBLA officials and supporters like Kevin Jennings are not trying to get sex between men legalized. That is already legal. They are trying to get sex between old men and little boys legalized, which is currently illegal due to the Christian influence in America's laws against barbarian perversions.
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What does this have to do with conversion therapy?
 
marke said:
Educated American NAMBLA officials and supporters like Kevin Jennings are not trying to get sex between men legalized. That is already legal. They are trying to get sex between old men and little boys legalized, which is currently illegal due to the Christian influence in America's laws against barbarian perversions.
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Are you sure about that?

22 Alabama Baptist ministers charged with sex crimes; what churches did they serve? - al.com

Southern Baptist Convention: More than 200 ministers, deacons and others have been found guilty of sex abuse, report says

Catholic Church child sexual abuse scandal - BBC News

Report: Pennsylvania priests molested over 1,000 children

Alabama official defends Roy Moore over paedophilia allegations citing age difference between Joseph and Mary | The Independent

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ndressed-backstage-howard-stern-a7357866.html
 
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marke said:
Lots of wicked barbarians claim to be Christians but Jesus told us clearly we will know they are fakes by their ungodly fruits.
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They are Christians just the same as a minster and the pope. You cannot try to weasel out of this.

Shall I review Calvin's idea of predestination for you?

How many people claim that good works aren't necessary as long as they have a firm belief in god?
 
Lisa said:
They are Christians just the same as a minster and the pope. You cannot try to weasel out of this.

Shall I review Calvin's idea of predestination for you?

How many people claim that good works aren't necessary as long as they have a firm belief in god?
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Not all those who claim to be Christians are telling the truth. Here is what God said:

9. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolators, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10. Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 6.
 
marke said:
Not all those who claim to be Christians are telling the truth. Here is what God said:

9. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolators, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10. Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 6.
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They confessed and asked for forgiveness. They are still Christians.

Why is Donald Trump still the darling of Christian conservatives?
 
Lisa said:
They confessed and asked for forgiveness. They are still Christians.

Why is Donald Trump still the darling of Christian conservatives?
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As a conservative Christian I support Trump because the democrat party votes almost as a bloc in favor of abortion, including late term abortion, they favor sodomy and persecute Christians for declaring what the Bible says in condemnation of sodomy, and so forth.

As to trying to blame conservative Christians for the sins of those who commit wickedness in the name of Christ, is that not wrong? That is no different than blaming Obama, a professed Christian, for supporting Christianity after Hitler massacred millions while dishonestly taking the name of Christ in vain.
 
marke said:
As a conservative Christian I support Trump because the democrat party votes almost as a bloc in favor of abortion, including late-term abortion, they favor sodomy and persecute Christians for declaring what the Bible says in condemnation of sodomy, and so forth.

As to trying to blame conservative Christians for the sins of those who commit wickedness in the name of Christ, is that not wrong? That is no different than blaming Obama, a professed Christian, for supporting Christianity after Hitler massacred millions while dishonestly taking the name of Christ in vain.
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You need to stop lying. Jesus also opposes that action.

Nobody favors late-term abortions. Nobody is pro-abortion, despite your emotional strawman

Sodomy, between heteros or homosexuals, is not a crime. Lawerence v. Texas.

When have Christians been persecuted for what the bible says in the US?

Give me 4 instances of that happening?
 
marke said:
As a conservative Christian I support Trump because the democrat party votes almost as a bloc in favor of abortion, including late term abortion, they favor sodomy and persecute Christians for declaring what the Bible says in condemnation of sodomy, and so forth.
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Well you just proved you arent from America and have no clue about my country :lamo
 
Lisa said:
You need to stop lying. Jesus also opposes that action.
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Democrats don't oppose abortion like Trump does.

Nobody favors late-term abortions. Nobody is pro-abortion, despite your emotional strawman
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Don't be deceived. Obama and Northam are not the only ones who have supported the idea of post birth executions of unwanted babies.

Sodomy, between heteros or homosexuals, is not a crime. Lawerence v. Texas.
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Sodomy is a sin. God v. the wicked.

When have Christians been persecuted for what the bible says in the US?
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Nearly 45 years ago I stood with dozens of other Christians in a North Carolina courtroom defending the right of Christians to determine their own curricula in Christian education without having to yield to secular public school atheistic dogma. The prosecutor threatened dozens of pastors in open court that he intended to send them to jail for rebelling against the secular state. Christians have been sent to jail for standing on their Christian convictions against an increasingly intolerant atheistic society. Those who claim that has not happened are showing their ignorance.

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marke said:
Nearly 45 years ago I stood with dozens of other Christians in a North Carolina courtroom defending the right of Christians to determine their own curricula in Christian education without having to yield to secular public school atheistic dogma. The prosecutor threatened dozens of pastors in open court that he intended to send them to jail for rebelling against the secular state. Christians have been sent to jail for standing on their Christian convictions against an increasingly intolerant atheistic society. Those who claim that has not happened are showing their ignorance.

Give me 4 instances of that happening?
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Modern atheist statists don't jail Christians for standing against homosexuality on Biblical principles, they take them to court to ruin them and destroy their businesses. The wicked are brutal, intolerant and relentless. The deliberately pervert truth and justice out of unbridled hatred for Christians who dare openly oppose homosexuality.

Here are the names of just 4 of the many such victims of liberal persecution:

Baronelle Stutzman
Elaine Huguenin
Jack Phillips
Blaine Adamson
 
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