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    Re: The Left Now Targeting Hallmark Channel for Refusing to Show Ad Featuring Lesbian Kiss.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I have no obligation to buy their products.
    No you don't. And you would be perfectly justified in not doing so. But it would be wrong to organize a boycott of a business for no other reason than you disagree with them.
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    Re: The Left Now Targeting Hallmark Channel for Refusing to Show Ad Featuring Lesbian Kiss.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    No you don't. And you would be perfectly justified in not doing so. But it would be wrong to organize a boycott of a business for no other reason than you disagree with them.
    That is the best reason for a boycott

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    Re: The Left Now Targeting Hallmark Channel for Refusing to Show Ad Featuring Lesbian Kiss.

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    If that "political power" involves publicly shaming individuals who break the law or violate morals, then individuals and groups absolutely have the right to react.
    let's order things cute until people get tired of it. They will make things such for us. Meaning the lesbians gays bisexuals and trans people that want to live and Let live

    There is a huge range of legitimate options, from protests to expressing opinions to lawsuits to running for office, that individuals can do to effect change.
    modern people don't know how to protest. they just get out in the street so throw fits and set stuff on fire. Abusing the courts by pressing frivolous lawsuits has also not good.


    If no one should care, then why are you here?
    to explain how stupid this is somebody has to

    I really don't understand why you simultaneously trivialize responses... and then respond.
    Because idiotic responses not only need to be trivialized but mocked and ridiculed. that's how we used to keep people from believing stupid things.

    Further these people pretend they represent me and I want to make sure that's cleared up.


    1) No one is "dying on a hill" here. Hallmark caved so fast that people barely had time to respond.

    2) Representation is important. It is highly likely that, for example, better media representation is why opinions about LGBT individuals changed so rapidly in the US.
    or they don't want to be bullied by the biggest bully in the room.


    There is no reason why individual and organized actions are mutually exclusive.
    The pendulum will swing. Sad thing about it is the people who are bullies they won't get the brunt of it.

    Please stop pretending these people represent me.

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    Re: The Left Now Targeting Hallmark Channel for Refusing to Show Ad Featuring Lesbian Kiss.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moonglow View Post
    As far as I am concerned the Hallmark channel sucks and I refuse to patronize it and I don't have cable service because I am of the idea that all of cable sucks and it is not worth paying what they want for it.
    Agreed

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    Re: The Left Now Targeting Hallmark Channel for Refusing to Show Ad Featuring Lesbian Kiss.

    Quote Originally Posted by CLAX1911 View Post
    let's order things cute until people get tired of it. They will make things such for us. Meaning the lesbians gays bisexuals and trans people that want to live and Let live
    You're not making any sense.


    modern people don't know how to protest. they just get out in the street so throw fits and set stuff on fire. Abusing the courts by pressing frivolous lawsuits has also not good.
    Maybe it's time to put down the retsina.

    "Ancient protest" usually meant riots in the streets and violent uprisings. The Peasant's Revolt of 1381 resulted in 1500 dead rebels. Modern protest is downright civilized by comparison.

    Frivolous lawsuits are bad. Justifiable lawsuits that force a society to live up to its ideals (e.g. Obergefell) are good.


    Because idiotic responses not only need to be trivialized but mocked and ridiculed. that's how we used to keep people from believing stupid things.
    Wow. Your ability to articulate such sophisticated political concepts, and understand the nuances of contemporary political currents as expressed via social media, is profound.

    Anyway. I'm disinclined to acquiesce to your claims to an alleged lack of intelligence on the part of the individuals who dislike being erased from modern media, at the behest of a right-wing astroturf organization.


    The pendulum will swing. Sad thing about it is the people who are bullies they won't get the brunt of it.
    I'm not sure what "pendulum" you are referring to, especially since -- despite some backlashes and losing the occasional battle -- progressives and civil libertarians are clearly winning the Culture Wars.


    Please stop pretending these people represent me.
    So.... You don't understand what "media representation" means, when it comes to communities. Got it.
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    Re: The Left Now Targeting Hallmark Channel for Refusing to Show Ad Featuring Lesbian Kiss.

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    You're not making any sense.
    it's funny how people lose the ability to comprehend.


    Maybe it's time to put down the retsina.

    "Ancient protest" usually meant riots in the streets and violent uprisings. The Peasant's Revolt of 1381 resulted in 1500 dead rebels. Modern protest is downright civilized by comparison.
    congratulations on being more civilized then people from 700 years ago. I guess.

    Maybe you want a medal for this I don't know.

    if by protesting you're not bringing awareness and sympathy to your cause then you're not doing anything except for harming your cause. Protest today seem like they're made up of self-entitled brats who are throwing a fit because they didn't get that way.

    When that's the what are you are presented you don't get anyone sympathetic to your cause in fact it makes people hate you.
    Frivolous lawsuits are bad. Justifiable lawsuits that force a society to live up to its ideals (e.g. Obergefell) are good.
    Obergerfel evidence that he had been wronged.


    Wow. Your ability to articulate such sophisticated political concepts, and understand the nuances of contemporary political currents as expressed via social media, is profound.
    oh is that not sophisticated enough for you do I need to don my clothes that only the sophisticated people can see?
    Anyway. I'm disinclined to acquiesce to your claims to an alleged lack of intelligence on the part of the individuals who dislike being erased from modern media, at the behest of a right-wing astroturf organization.
    Not aware of what you are talking about.


    I'm not sure what "pendulum" you are referring to, especially since -- despite some backlashes and losing the occasional battle -- progressives and civil libertarians are clearly winning the Culture Wars.
    the culture wars is this some new movie that came out?


    So.... You don't understand what "media representation" means, when it comes to communities. Got it.
    You don't understand that communities are made up of individuals with individual view points? Got it.

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