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[W:22]NHS 'over-diagnosing' children having transgender treatment, former staff warn

ecofarm said:
I'm not attacking you. I'm claiming your OP is transphobic and you lie about being transgender. I base these assessments on your posts. If you don't like assessments, perhaps you should stick to transphobic websites instead of debate websites. Or maybe you shouldn't make bs personal claims in attempt to bolster your hate.
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^ ^The most disgusting & dishonest transphobic attack I've seen on this site.

Utterly repulsive.
 
maquiscat said:
Not a shock at all. I've seen the trend with ADD/ADHD and Autism, among others. And the problem is that when the general public realizes it's been overdiagnosed in the past they are too willing to dismiss it in those who actually have it.

I will say that I am seeing evidence, from pro transgender sources, is that medical/hormonal treatment before puberty is finished can actually be detrimental to later surgical transitioning, assuming that is needed, especially for MtF.

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Excellent points.
 
ecofarm said:
My guess would be a relative that you struggle to communicate with and so you create this persona on a website to float your bigotry presumably sheltered from accusations of bigotry.

But I'm accusing you of bigotry anyway. I'm accusing you of transphobia anyway. Because I judge your posts based on their content and not your claims. And your OPs are consistently transphobic.

But that's just my take.
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^ ^Utterly shameful and completely repulsive; transphobia on parade.
 
Rich2018 said:
Surgery is not appropriate in this case for a child.

That goes for medication too....nothing that has permanent effects.


I think the most important thing is for a child to explain what problem they have.
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And allow presentation. That goes a long way with many. Plus, if it is a phase, or something other than transgenderism, it can be better determined.

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maquiscat said:
And allow presentation. That goes a long way with many. Plus, if it is a phase, or something other than transgenderism, it can be better determined.

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A lot fo the trans regret is folks saying that they latched on to Trans to run away instead of facing their issues.
 
Renae said:
A lot fo the trans regret is folks saying that they latched on to Trans to run away instead of facing their issues.
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That is why these must be screened for, thoroughly investigated and successfully treated before the transgendered diagnosis is made and the transition process begins.

Hormones can cause mood swings and it will exacerbate any diagnosis if they are made prior to that variable being added to the mix.

Pre-teens and teens are still emotionally maturing and this process must be especially pragmatic for that reason.
 
Renae said:
A lot fo the trans regret is folks saying that they latched on to Trans to run away instead of facing their issues.
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I've seen this, and it's heartbreaking.
 
Lisa said:
Maybe you can find climate activiost transgendered teen a ride on a catamaran across the ocean.................
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Lisa said:
That is why these must be screened for, thoroughly investigated and successfully treated before the transgendered diagnosis is made and the transition process begins.

Hormones can cause mood swings and it will exacerbate any diagnosis if they are made prior to that variable being added to the mix.

Pre-teens and teens are still emotionally maturing and this process must be especially pragmatic for that reason.
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Why would people who make their living transitioning folks be anything less than perfect and unbiased in their application of treatment?

I know that when I go to a car dealership, the salesperson's main concern is whether I really need a car at all.

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3leftsdoo said:
Why would people who make their living transitioning folks be anything less than perfect and unbiased in their application of treatment?

I know that when I go to a car dealership, the salesperson's main concern is whether I really need a car at all.

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How do psychologists actively transition people?

Drs dont push trans poeople to taken hormones. It is always the patients choice.
 
Lisa said:
How do psychologists actively transition people?

Drs dont push trans poeople to taken hormones. It is always the patients choice.
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Businesses refuse customer money all the time; it's how they stay open.
 
3leftsdoo said:
Businesses refuse customer money all the time; it's how they stay open.
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Your replies now are even more obtuse and confused that you are normally, and that is not a compliment.

I asked you how a psychologist actively transitions someone and this is your red herring reply. Try to stay on topic when you reply to me if you choose to do so.
 
Lisa said:
Your replies now are even more obtuse and confused that you are normally, and that is not a compliment.

I asked you how a psychologist actively transitions someone and this is your red herring reply. Try to stay on topic when you reply to me if you choose to do so.
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Ridiculous - and telling - ad hom.

Why would a business which survives by catering to their clients be anything other than objective and perfect - this was my question to you; you didn't answer it. :shrug: More flippant ad hom; try to stay on topic. :thumbs:
 
3leftsdoo said:
Ridiculous - and telling - ad hom.

Why would a business which survives by catering to their clients be anything other than objective and perfect - this was my question to you; you didn't answer it. :shrug: More flippant ad hom; try to stay on topic. :thumbs:
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What are they catering to? What do you think the role of the psychologist is in the person's transition? You seem to think that something nefarious is going on, so what is it.
 
Lisa said:
How do psychologists actively transition people?

Drs dont push trans poeople to taken hormones. It is always the patients choice.
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No lisa... the first three therapists I saw were trying to push hrt after first visit.
 
Lisa said:
What are they catering to? What do you think the role of the psychologist is in the person's transition? You seem to think that something nefarious is going on, so what is it.
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Who; their clients - is this confusing to you? :confused: Are they perfect and unbiased; are the people who have regretted transition imaginary? Try answering my questions rather than making assumptions. :thumbs:
 
3leftsdoo said:
Who; their clients - is this confusing to you? :confused: Are they perfect and unbiased; are the people who have regretted transition imaginary? Try answering my questions rather than making assumptions. :thumbs:
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People regret choices all the time. Transgender people are not "forced" or "urged" to transition.
 
ecofarm said:
More transphobia from the claimed transgender person.

What a joke.
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Let's get to what's important (hint:not whether Renae is trans): would you care if the claims made by 5 NHS administrators are correct? I get the feeling you don't actually care about the 2500 children used for medical experimentation.
 
truthatallcost said:
Let's get to what's important (hint:not whether Renae is trans): would you care if the claims made by 5 NHS administrators are correct? I get the feeling you don't actually care about the 2500 children used for medical experimentation.
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The key word is "correct". Where's the proof?
 
Renae said:
No Lisa... the first three therapists I saw were trying to push hrt after first visit.
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That is ethically conscionable. HRT should be 90 days to even possibly six months in the future after psychological screening and a firm diagnosis is conducted.
There is no way that they can confirm that someone is transgendered after 45-50 minutes.
 
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