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[W:22]NHS 'over-diagnosing' children having transgender treatment, former staff warn

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[FONT=&quot]The NHS is "over-diagnosing" children having medical treatment for gender dysphoria, with psychologists unable to properly assess patients over fears they will be branded "transphobic", former staff have warned.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Thirty five psychologists have resigned from the children's gender-identity service in London in the last three years, Sky News research suggests.
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Six of those have now raised concerns about hormone treatment being given to children with gender dysphoria, a condition where a person experiences distress due to a mismatch between their biological sex and their gender identity.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]A psychologist, who wished to remain anonymous, said: "Our fears are that young people are being over-diagnosed and then over-medicalised.[/FONT]
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NHS 'over-diagnosing' children having transgender treatment, former staff warn | UK News | Sky News


This is not a shock to me, I've seen the rush to transition first hand from therapist. It is... disgusting. Children go through phases, cheerleaders, agenda pushers... aren't there to help you they are there for their own agendas!
 
More transphobia from the claimed transgender person.

What a joke.
 
ecofarm said:
More transphobia from the claimed transgender person.

What a joke.
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How is that transphobic and why are you attacking me? Discuss the OP not your personal need to be rude to people.
 
Renae said:
How is that transphobic and why are you attacking me? Discuss the OP not your personal need to be rude to people.
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I'm not attacking you. I'm claiming your OP is transphobic and you lie about being transgender. I base these assessments on your posts. If you don't like assessments, perhaps you should stick to transphobic websites instead of debate websites. Or maybe you shouldn't make bs personal claims in attempt to bolster your hate.
 
ecofarm said:
I'm not attacking you. I'm claiming your OP is transphobic and you lie about being transgender. I base these assessments on your posts. If you don't like assessments, perhaps you should stick to transphobic websites instead of debate websites. Or maybe you shouldn't make bs personal claims in attempt to bolster your hate.
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My "claim" to be transgender is a lie? And I am pushing "hate". Right, so you're claiming that I've been lying this whole time, and those pics of me are what? Made up? Is that REALLY your stance there Eco?
 
Renae said:
My "claim" to be transgender is a lie? And I am pushing "hate". Right, so you're claiming that I've been lying this whole time, and those pics of me are what? Made up? Is that REALLY your stance there Eco?
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Yes. That's my stance. Your claims are bs. You're pushing transphobia and think it's more effective with your bs claim. I bet it gives you a good laugh. I don't know where you get the pics from, but I could guess.
 
Renae said:
NHS 'over-diagnosing' children having transgender treatment, former staff warn | UK News | Sky News


This is not a shock to me, I've seen the rush to transition first hand from therapist. It is... disgusting. Children go through phases, cheerleaders, agenda pushers... aren't there to help you they are there for their own agendas!
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Not a shock at all. I've seen the trend with ADD/ADHD and Autism, among others. And the problem is that when the general public realizes it's been overdiagnosed in the past they are too willing to dismiss it in those who actually have it.

I will say that I am seeing evidence, from pro transgender sources, is that medical/hormonal treatment before puberty is finished can actually be detrimental to later surgical transitioning, assuming that is needed, especially for MtF.

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maquiscat said:
Not a shock at all. I've seen the trend with ADD/ADHD and Autism, among others. And the problem is that when the general public realizes it's been overdiagnosed in the past they are too willing to dismiss it in those who actually have it.

I will say that I am seeing evidence, from pro transgender sources, is that medical/hormonal treatment before puberty is finished can actually be detrimental to later surgical transitioning, assuming that is needed, especially for MtF.

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Yep, because one of the things that as I am learning as I head towards GRS, is that the amount of tissue available greatly aids in the surgery. I.E> if you aren't fully developed as a male, for MTF, then surgery requires getting tissue from other places, like sections of intestine. That has a lot of drawbacks and complicates the surgery.
 
ecofarm said:
Yes. That's my stance. Your claims are bs. You're pushing transphobia and think it's more effective with your bs claim. I bet it gives you a good laugh. I don't know where you get the pics from, but I could guess.
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I get them from my camera. They are all over my personal facebook.... Let's see how about...
I know my youtube channel!
Oh look, that's me, bowling at Bandera Bowl.

And me again...

That's me, in public, Renae. Transwoman, bowling.

Oh look, here is me, and me!

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AND ME AGAIN!

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My guess would be a relative that you struggle to communicate with and so you create this persona on a website to float your bigotry presumably sheltered from accusations of bigotry.

But I'm accusing you of bigotry anyway. I'm accusing you of transphobia anyway. Because I judge your posts based on their content and not your claims. And your OPs are consistently transphobic.

But that's just my take.
 
ecofarm said:
My guess would be a relative that you struggle to communicate with and so you create this persona on a website to float your bigotry presumably sheltered from accusations of bigotry.

But I'm accusing you of bigotry anyway. I'm accusing you of transphobia anyway. Because I judge your posts based on their content and not your claims. And your OPs are consistently transphobic.

But that's just my take.
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ROFL that's the silliest theory ever.
 
Renae said:
ROFL that's the silliest theory ever.
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Makes more sense than transphobic, bathroom opposing, anti trans in the military, transgender person.
 
Renae said:
I get them from my camera. They are all over my personal facebook.... Let's see how about...
I know my youtube channel!
Oh look, that's me, bowling at Bandera Bowl.

And me again...

That's me, in public, Renae. Transwoman, bowling.

Oh look, here is me, and me!

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AND ME AGAIN!

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Did you go through a serious weight loss and then gain some back? Because if those pics are in chronological order, I'd have been worried with you losing so much weight.

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maquiscat said:
Did you go through a serious weight loss and then gain some back? Because if those pics are in chronological order, I'd have been worried with you losing so much weight.

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Oh uhm, I had Gastric Sleeve last July. Here is the weight loss (the above were not in any real order)

Here this is a good pic I posted it in selfies too.

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I had a thyroid issue that caused me to gain weight and my attempts to fight it... were baaad. My liver was going cirrocciss (fatty liver disease was starting) and I had Type II Diabetes. Both are now no longer an issue!
 
ecofarm said:
Makes more sense than transphobic, bathroom opposing, anti trans in the military, transgender person.
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Whose bathroom opposing? What are you on about? And I stated the WHY I'm against Trans in the military, the contextis beyond you to debate it would seem. And I'm not transphobic, what a dumb statement.
 
Renae said:
Whose bathroom opposing? What are you on about? And I stated the WHY I'm against Trans in the military, the contextis beyond you to debate it would seem. And I'm not transphobic, what a dumb statement.
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You oppose transgender people at every turn. You oppose them using appropriate bathrooms. You oppose them being in the military. You're a medical conspiracy theorist. You claim autism is fake and the medical industry is a scam against stupid parents. You basically claim that everything transgender and the mental health industry is a scam perpetuated against cis white hetero men.

And you're transgender? Sure. I was born yesterday.
 
ecofarm said:
You oppose transgender people at every turn. You're a medical conspiracy theorist. You basically claim that everything transgender is a scam perpetuated against cis white hetero men.

And you're transgender? Sure. I was born yesterday.
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I have not at all, I'm very pro-trans. I've never said anything of the sort, your reading comprehension level is amazingly lacking.
 
Renae said:
I have not at all, I'm very pro-trans. I've never said anything of the sort, your reading comprehension level is amazingly lacking.
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Sure. Now just lie. That works.
 
ecofarm said:
Sure. Now just lie. That works.
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I'm Anti-Trans because I believe... the military isn't the right place for people with serious medical needs. Right. I'm anti-Trans because I think that people should use the bathroom that is right for them... I use the ladies room, and trans people should use the right restroom for their gender presentation. I AM against a MTF who is dressed as a man, presenting as a man using the ladies room and vice versa, I'm also against Pre-op Trans getting naked in public locker rooms and showers out of respect for others. SO anti Trans. What other anti trans views do I have... OH I think we should be really cautious with children and putting them on a life altering path without due consideration and care, and I have seen first hand the rush to transition that guides my judgement. DAMN I'm just the worst sort of bigot... gosh...

Got anything of value there Eco or just more snark? That's what I thought.
 
Renae said:
I'm Anti-Trans because I believe... the military isn't the right place for people with serious medical needs. Right. I'm anti-Trans because I think that people should use the bathroom that is right for them... I use the ladies room, and trans people should use the right restroom for their gender presentation. I AM against a MTF who is dressed as a man, presenting as a man using the ladies room and vice versa, I'm also against Pre-op Trans getting naked in public locker rooms and showers out of respect for others. SO anti Trans. What other anti trans views do I have... OH I think we should be really cautious with children and putting them on a life altering path without due consideration and care, and I have seen first hand the rush to transition that guides my judgement. DAMN I'm just the worst sort of bigot... gosh...

Got anything of value there Eco or just more snark? That's what I thought.
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Anti trans bigotry. Anti trans fearmongering. The undermining of transgender people as "rushed to decision".

Yep.
 
ecofarm said:
Anti trans bigotry. Anti trans fearmongering. The undermining of transgender people as "rushed to decision".

Yep.
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What bigotry, details examples proof. What fear mongering? Also not underming anyone, I'm questioning a system that can cause harm to people, the number of "Transreget" out there is because of a rush to judgement. By your logic, I could say you are pro-child abuse.
 
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Renae said:
NHS 'over-diagnosing' children having transgender treatment, former staff warn | UK News | Sky News


This is not a shock to me, I've seen the rush to transition first hand from therapist. It is... disgusting. Children go through phases, cheerleaders, agenda pushers... aren't there to help you they are there for their own agendas!
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I think this is a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Abandoning a child to school yard mockery is abstaining from your duties as a parent and/or teacher.

It's a hard subject because you want to help the child but you don't want to steer them.
 
Rich2018 said:
I think this is a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't.

Abandoning a child to school yard mockery is abstaining from your duties as a parent and/or teacher.

It's a hard subject because you want to help the child but you don't want to steer them.
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There is no "easy" answer, but I think the rush to "TRANSITION" is a problem that needs be addressed.
 
Renae said:
There is no "easy" answer, but I think the rush to "TRANSITION" is a problem that needs be addressed.
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Surgery is not appropriate in this case for a child.

That goes for medication too....nothing that has permanent effects.


I think the most important thing is for a child to explain what problem they have.
 
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