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How to balance two women on a vacation?

SDET said:
A Middle Eastern approach seems different than the Latin American approach. It's not talked about much, but the template is to sexually teach an 18 or 19 year old. Older married women will often tolerate this because it serves as insurance against being traded in for a younger model. Most men are thrilled to have their cake and eat it too. When a man trades his wife in for a younger model he loses the respect of his adult children. 18 and 19 year old women are not looked down upon for TEMPORARILY being a slut. If she becomes a single mother, all bets are off and she's considered damaged goods. My value system, which you may or may not agree with, is to get a vasectomy before starting these kinds of adventures. If I'm getting sexual intimacy, I want everyone involved to be better off than before they met me.
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The Spanish say "A woman without a mustache can never be beautiful." Apparently the Moors had an influence.

It remains common for women to marry very young in some countries. According to U.N. reports, 39 countries have data showing that 20% of women married by age 18. In twenty countries, a full 10% of women married by age 15. In only 2 countries, however, are 10% of men married before the age of 18. Outside of Afghanistan, the nations of Central and South America lead the world in early marriage of women. You can include the Caribbean in those figures.

Personally, I have always preferred experienced women. Virgins are highly over rated, and often have no idea what brings pleasure. I have done my best to avoid them.

More than 50% of American households are single parent maternal led families. Both sets of my grandparents were arranged marriages. Both brides were 15 and considered old maids in their respective cultures. Both sets of my grandparents lived together without divorce until one of the partners passed. My maternal grandparents were married 51 years. Both my grandfathers were 10 years older than their brides.

The concept of serial marriage is not unique to the present day US.
 
OldFatGuy said:
Actually, no. Harems were more about displaying power and success, political alliances. The more heirs one had, the more fratricides in their future.
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No argument there were several motivations, and proving virility by producing multiple heirs is one way of displaying power. But I maintain it also was important for succession. It's human nature to want a legacy, perhaps even more so in rulers. Given the high mortality rates in the heyday of harems, more heirs hedged the bet. That may be more instinctual than conscious. And to be cynical, if they killed each other off, the survivor might the best to succeed..."survival of the fittest".
 
OldFatGuy said:
Actually, no. Harems were more about displaying power and success, political alliances. The more heirs one had, the more fratricides in their future.
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To mark the festive season (to the tune of the Christmas carol Tidings of Comfort and Joy):

"It was Christmas Day in the harem,
The eunuchs were standing 'round,
And hundreds of beautiful women were stretched out on the ground,
Along came the wicked Sultan,
Surveying his marble halls,
He said Whaddya want for Christmas boys, and the eunuchs answered


Tidings of co-omfort and joy, comfort and joy, o-oh ti-idings of comfort and joy...."
 
I didn't know they had a super ego non-cunningless threads to post in..
 
CHuDWah said:
No argument there were several motivations, and proving virility by producing multiple heirs is one way of displaying power. But I maintain it also was important for succession. It's human nature to want a legacy, perhaps even more so in rulers. Given the high mortality rates in the heyday of harems, more heirs hedged the bet. That may be more instinctual than conscious. And to be cynical, if they killed each other off, the survivor might the best to succeed..."survival of the fittest".
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:) Yes, survival of the most wily, not necessarily the fittest. Surprisingly, the childbirth survival ratios for the harems were relatively high. The wealthy could afford better diets and midwifery. The hey day of harems is far from over. They may be smaller than Solomon's reputed 1,000 wives and concubines, but they are far from over. There are some Mormons right here in the US who will dispute the end of the harem. Plus some very strange Christian sects, and some stranger nonsectarian communities.

There's a fellow living here in NYC, in South Jamaica, with 19 "wives" and more than 60 children. The women are very protective of him and their family. Social Services has visited the family and left satisfied with home life of the children. Many who are high achievers in school. The DA's office has stated "since there are no marriage certificates, the home life of these individuals is not our concern. No laws have been violated." A family with a paternal figure in a community where they are rare. He owns an automobile air conditioning repair shop, along with a few other similar type businesses where he works, and employs brothers and cousins. A quality influence in the community at large.
 
Rich2018 said:
To mark the festive season (to the tune of the Christmas carol Tidings of Comfort and Joy):

"It was Christmas Day in the harem,
The eunuchs were standing 'round,
And hundreds of beautiful women were stretched out on the ground,
Along came the wicked Sultan,
Surveying his marble halls,
He said Whaddya want for Christmas boys, and the eunuchs answered


Tidings of co-omfort and joy, comfort and joy, o-oh ti-idings of comfort and joy...."
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Eunuchs were not quite what most think. Minus testicles, they could still achieve and enjoy erections, and all that was implied. A quality eunuch could keep the women satisfied when the Sheik was busy doing other things. You're not far off the mark. :)
 
OldFatGuy said:
Eunuchs were not quite what most think. Minus testicles, they could still achieve and enjoy erections, and all that was implied. A quality eunuch could keep the women satisfied when the Sheik was busy doing other things. You're not far off the mark. :)
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What do you expect after people watch "History of the World, Part One"?
 
SDET said:
There's a good chance that I will be entertaining two women on my upcoming vacation. One will be my wife and the other a "normal" Cubana in Cuba. I believe if you're going to do something, do it right. The idea is to show both a good time and enjoy some intimacy in the mix. Neither woman will have any "lesbian" interest, but the intent is for them to interact well socially. Many RURAL Cubanas have a dream of visiting a "foreigners only" resort. My wife also will tolerate a lot in exchange for being "wined and dined" mixed with visits to the finest attractions. I specifically am interested in this because I know that it will be a challenge. However, I want to rise to the challenge and pull it off. Any pointers on how to make this work. I do know that women hate being ignored and a first step will be making sure each receives a satisfactory amount of attention. If I get even two or three serious responses, I will be satisfied. Non-serious replies will be ignored.
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You know, I am sure that there are all kinds of magazines and websites where you can share your misogyny and sexual addiction on, why do you feel the need to continually make such creepy threads here?
 
OldFatGuy said:
:) Yes, survival of the most wily, not necessarily the fittest. Surprisingly, the childbirth survival ratios for the harems were relatively high. The wealthy could afford better diets and midwifery. The hey day of harems is far from over. They may be smaller than Solomon's reputed 1,000 wives and concubines, but they are far from over. There are some Mormons right here in the US who will dispute the end of the harem. Plus some very strange Christian sects, and some stranger nonsectarian communities.

There's a fellow living here in NYC, in South Jamaica, with 19 "wives" and more than 60 children. The women are very protective of him and their family. Social Services has visited the family and left satisfied with home life of the children. Many who are high achievers in school. The DA's office has stated "since there are no marriage certificates, the home life of these individuals is not our concern. No laws have been violated." A family with a paternal figure in a community where they are rare. He owns an automobile air conditioning repair shop, along with a few other similar type businesses where he works, and employs brothers and cousins. A quality influence in the community at large.
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I include wiliness, not just physicality, in fitness to survive. No doubt mortality rates were lower in harems than the general population due to the factors you cite. Still they could be subject to vagaries of the times such as disease, war, and palace intrigue.

Although I did not specifically say so, I have been referring to traditional Islamic imperial harems. I do not dispute that harems still exist, although polygamy or plural marriage may be more accurate terms now. And the return over the last few decades of some to more conservative Islamic values may have led to an increase in harems. Whatever the practice is called, it does not affect me and therefore is not mine to judge.
 
OldFatGuy said:
Eunuchs were not quite what most think. Minus testicles, they could still achieve and enjoy erections, and all that was implied. A quality eunuch could keep the women satisfied when the Sheik was busy doing other things. You're not far off the mark. :)
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I'm not about that.

Castration effects | Go Ask Alice!


It says that a castrated man loses much of his sexual desire but it can be treated with medicine.


Btw, I read that the Chinese method of castration was to remove the penis and the testicles.
 
OldFatGuy said:
I didn't need to know that. :)
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"The Vietnamese adopted the eunuch system and castration techniques from China. Records show that the Vietnamese created eunuchs through castration in a painful procedure by removing the entire genitalia with both penis and testicles being cut off with a sharp knife or metal blade. The procedure was agonizing since the entire penis was cut off..."


Castration - Wikipedia
 
SDET said:
My wife wants to participate in the selection. She will tolerate a short-term fling. She will not tolerate someone willing to be a homewrecker. She asks key questions to discern the difference. When she discovered that I liked traveling out of the country to see other women, she asked if she could come along. My wife said that her presence signals to other women that I'm not available for anything long term with them.
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So your wife doesnt want this, but you do and she doesnt get to go on vacation unless it's for your pleasure and not yours and hers? She's only going in an effort to hang onto you?

Jeebus this poor woman.
 
Lursa said:
So your wife doesnt want this, but you do and she doesnt get to go on vacation unless it's for your pleasure and not yours and hers? She's only going in an effort to hang onto you?

Jeebus this poor woman.
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I believe in fairy tales don't you?
 
Moonglow said:
I believe in fairy tales don't you?
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Tammy Wynette - and I claim my $5


"I believe in fairy tales
Where knights in shinin' armour come along
You were my knight in shining armour
And you stole my heart with a song.
You gave me a castle and a princess
And I was the wor-orld's proudest queen
But then came the dragon in the bottle
And I watched as it slowly slayed the king.
And we all live happy never after
For we just put the castle up for sale
But I guess that I will always be a dreamer
'Cause I still believe in fairy tales.
Yes, I stilll belie-ieve in fairy tales..."
 
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