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Prestigious women dating disparity.

Now see, in that area you'd have a hard time tagging me with that one. If she knows how to efficiently load data, knows remedies for missing or invalid values, cross validation, linear and non-linear regression, she has proven herself to me. Of course women like that DON'T have American names. When I see a woman on a SOCIAL forum, she is there to BASH guys, not find them. I wonder why you don't see many women on ChevyTalk, for example.

Superfly said:
From a woman’s point of view, I do admit that it’s frustrating that women are not taken seriously online. Many men assume women are only online, message boards etc, to find a guy. Similar to the 50s college mindset, where women only went to college to find a good husband.
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Times have changes in the respect that even though they go for the same low effort degrees, their object is now getting an affirmative action government job as opposed to a husband. The state is their "man".

Superfly said:
From a woman’s point of view, I do admit that it’s frustrating that women are not taken seriously online. Many men assume women are only online, message boards etc, to find a guy. Similar to the 50s college mindset, where women only went to college to find a good husband.
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SDET said:
Now see, in that area you'd have a hard time tagging me with that one. If she knows how to efficiently load data, knows remedies for missing or invalid values, cross validation, linear and non-linear regression, she has proven herself to me. Of course women like that DON'T have American names. When I see a woman on a SOCIAL forum, she is there to BASH guys, not find them. I wonder why you don't see many women on ChevyTalk, for example.
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How do you know that they aren’t women that you are talking to on the Chevy forums? Those places require a doctor’s note, or a pic of your junk, before you can post?
 
Well gee, if you want to play a badly stretched game of what if. They almost never show up at related events unless it's as part of an older couple. The prime demographic is men over age 50.

Superfly said:
How do you know that they aren’t women that you are talking to on the Chevy forums? Those places require a doctor’s note, or a pic of your junk, before you can post?
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SDET said:
It's not a personal attack. If you interview for a gig and notice you'll be reporting to a frustrated old women, just say "pass".
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I hold no contempt for superfly, I personally think a lot of her as a poster. So I'm not interested in that. I also do like tacomancer. If you want to talk about the subject that's cool, but other posters... No.
 
CLAX1911 said:
I've never gotten into d&d and I think I could, and I know people that are my age that still play
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One of the reasons I play the games I do is that most of the players have been playing for at least 20 years and there is a different (and often more mature) tone

Look up "local geek bar" in google, thats usually where people like me meet :)
 
SDET said:
Well gee, if you want to play a badly stretched game of what if. They almost never show up at related events unless it's as part of an older couple. The prime demographic is men over age 50.
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Badly stretched? How so? You have no idea of who you are talking to on the other side of the computer. You can only go by what you are told.

Maybe women don’t identify as women because they don’t want to be dragged through the mud for being “women on a man’s board,” much like the car shows.
 
SDET said:
Simple: A high-earning man wants an 18 or 19 year old. What's the point of painstakingly building a career only to marry a post-wall woman? From a family point of view: Having children with a woman pushing 40 is a high risk pursuit.
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Take your trashy advice elsewhere. :laughat:
 
Who cares? As long as the grooming is voluntary and she's not a minor, it's no one else's bizwax.

Rich2018 said:
That's called "grooming" and is generally frowned upon.
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If she knows how to rebuild a "power steering generator" or better still an engine in her own garage, no one would make any difference. If she knew how to rebuild early auto air conditioners and shared that knowledge, she would be very popular.

Superfly said:
Badly stretched? How so? You have no idea of who you are talking to on the other side of the computer. You can only go by what you are told.

Maybe women don’t identify as women because they don’t want to be dragged through the mud for being “women on a man’s board,” much like the car shows.
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These women aren't finding men because most of them have hit the wall. And the type of men they want, those who already have good careers and making great money, are mostly taken. Those men weren't a big group to begin with. These women thought they had all the time in the world, and made their focus their careers. That's their choice. Now they will eventually become cat ladies.
 
CLAX1911 said:
This article from The Wall Street journal struck me as rather odd. It's basically saying that women who have achieved a high rank in their career we are having difficulty finding the type of men they want.

A Good Man Is Getting Even Harder to Find - WSJ

It's funny how they're characterizing this as these professional men not stepping up is though there's nothing wrong with women's preferences. There's nothing wrong with the professional woman marrying a blue collar man. Or even as stay-at-home man. But professional women don't seem to want that.
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This is a good observation that you make here. Does it shock you though? Throughout the past few decades the education establishment and marketing forces have convinced our society that the people who go into trades are not as smart or motivated and that those people are on the lesser tier of society. The upper level corporate type woman that this article refers to likely all have upper level college degrees. Do you think they want to tell their friends and colleagues that their husband is a mechanic or plumber? They ostensibly would rather stay single than date or marry "down."
 
Waddy said:
These women aren't finding men because most of them have hit the wall. And the type of men they want, those who already have good careers and making great money, are mostly taken. Those men weren't a big group to begin with. These women thought they had all the time in the world, and made their focus their careers. That's their choice. Now they will eventually become cat ladies.
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Excellent post. This phenomena is not surprising at all, especially considering how things have changed from the more traditional society of the 1950's-1970's, to where we are today. Not only is that group of men they are hoping for a small pool to begin with but most of those men are looking for women who are considerably younger than they are and are very attractive, which is likely not the description of many of these very successful corporate women.
 
Cynical said:
Excellent post. This phenomena is not surprising at all, especially considering how things have changed from the more traditional society of the 1950's-1970's, to where we are today. Not only is that group of men they are hoping for a small pool to begin with but most of those men are looking for women who are considerably younger than they are and are very attractive, which is likely not the description of many of these very successful corporate women.
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Thank you. These men we're talking about are probably in their mid 30's to early 40's. These men can easily attract a woman in her 20's. And if you are thinking of starting a family and having kids a woman in her 20's is the way to go. She's still young and firm, very sexually attractive. And she would love to have some kids and take care of her family.
 
Waddy said:
Thank you. These men we're talking about are probably in their mid 30's to early 40's. These men can easily attract a woman in her 20's. And if you are thinking of starting a family and having kids a woman in her 20's is the way to go. She's still young and firm, very sexually attractive. And she would love to have some kids and take care of her family.
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Back in the day (1950's-1970's) most middle class men got married in their early 20's and married women who were either their age or slightly younger. Today middle class men are getting married (for the first time) in their mid to late 30's, 40's and even early 50's. Most of these men are generally or very well established in a career, have their own residence and a fair degree of net worth. You are right, they are looking for attractive women who are 10-20 years younger than them.

So the successful corporate woman who is looking for a man that is her economic/educational equal is competing with women who are much younger than them and very likely more attractive than them.
 
Cynical said:
...so the successful corporate woman who is looking for a man that is her economic/educational equal is competing with women who are much younger than them and very likely more attractive than them.
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Sad that you associate youth with attractiveness.

Someone like Trump definitely does.
 
Rich2018 said:
Sad that you associate youth with attractiveness.

Someone like Trump definitely does.
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You may not like it, and it's definitely NOT politically correct, but it is the truth. Those slightly older very successful men have choices. And they tend to choose younger, more attractive women.
 
Cynical said:
This is a good observation that you make here. Does it shock you though? Throughout the past few decades the education establishment and marketing forces have convinced our society that the people who go into trades are not as smart or motivated and that those people are on the lesser tier of society. The upper level corporate type woman that this article refers to likely all have upper level college degrees. Do you think they want to tell their friends and colleagues that their husband is a mechanic or plumber? They ostensibly would rather stay single than date or marry "down."
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Well the article exists, so it appears they don't want to stay single. But if they're too good for the men who are available for them maybe they should. That isn't what a marriage is about.

But I think it's more about hypergamy. Women don't want to marry someone who makes less money than them. I would consider this evolutionary. But if they are the top earners than there is it going to be more competition. And men don't seek out partners that make more money than that that's not necessarily important to them.
 
CLAX1911 said:
There's nothing wrong with the professional woman marrying a blue collar man. Or even as stay-at-home man. But professional women don't seem to want that.
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While there may not technically be anything wrong with a woman marrying a blue collar man you have to admit that from the perspective of the woman those men are kind of pathetic. We live in a world that heavily favors men and gives them opportunity after opportunity to succeed. Meanwhile we herd women into low level jobs as care givers and assistance.

If you're one of the few women who've managed to fight through the bull**** and break the glass ceiling it's kind of hard to not look down on a man who has squandered his male privilege and can barely feed himself. The typical sexist man expects to be more successful than his mate. He already kind of views women as inferior and himself as naturally superior and has gotten used to that dynamic. The result is that there's no additional judgement being handed down on a woman for filling in the status he expects of her.

But women have spent most of their lives being treated as inferiors and having it re-enforced that men are supposed to be better, smarter, tougher, whatever... So when a woman achieves a high level of success it's a lot harder for her to respect a man that can't at least keep up with her.
 
MrWonka said:
While there may not technically be anything wrong with a woman marrying a blue collar man you have to admit that from the perspective of the woman those men are kind of pathetic.
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Yeah they feel entitled to something they aren't entitled to.
We live in a world that heavily favors men and gives them opportunity after opportunity to succeed. Meanwhile we herd women into low level jobs as care givers and assistance.
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Meh conspiracy theories and never get far with me.
If you're one of the few women who've managed to fight through the bull**** and break the glass ceiling it's kind of hard to not look down on a man who has squandered his male privilege and can barely feed himself. The typical sexist man expects to be more successful than his mate. He already kind of views women as inferior and himself as naturally superior and has gotten used to that dynamic. The result is that there's no additional judgement being handed down on a woman for filling in the status he expects of her.
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So an entitled woman who has a prestigious job is single because of society or because of men? I can't possibly be anything about her because women are perfect. Our society has gone through and told them not to change for anybody.
But women have spent most of their lives being treated as inferiors and having it re-enforced that men are supposed to be better, smarter, tougher, whatever... So when a woman achieves a high level of success it's a lot harder for her to respect a man that can't at least keep up with her.
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Then she can be alone.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Then she can be alone.
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LOL yes, sad the many prefer that to men that dont stack up or show that they will be equal and respectful partners in a relationship.

And it's still never hard to get laid if we choose. There are certain skills men have (and are far too willing to share) that transcend their ability to earn, contribute, or even be emotionally available.
 
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