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Australia wants to make it illegal to have sex by lying to someone

Lying To Have Sex With Someone Could Soon Be Considered... | 10 daily

Now, I was originally appalled by this until I did a little research. Turns out laws like this already exist in some forms, because in certain unusual situations, a woman can be deceived into thinking she's sleeping with her boyfriend when it's in fact someone else. Also, as far as I know, not disclosing that you have a sexually transmitted disease has always been frowned upon by the law in most countries. Any reasonable person should be OK with that.

But the way new laws are being proposed in Australia is a worrying sign of empowerment gone too far. Basically, even talking yourself up or just driving an expensive car to insinuate you have a lot of money, can become a crime if it leads to sex. In other words, if the woman regrets sleeping with you, you committed an act of sexual assault; sex by deception.

Although this represents an interesting scenario - I would argue that women deceive a lot more than men do. Women have a plethora of accessories, clothing, and other means of seeming more attractive than men do. Makeup, eyeliner, lipstick push-up bras, g-strings, perfume, hair extensions, fake fingernails, stockings, are all common forms of female attire designed solely to make them seem more attractive than they really are. It can easily be claimed that a man was falsely enticed to sleep with a woman because of these things.

That being said, something tells me these laws will be designed and enforced to err on the side of the woman. In other words, if it happens to a woman, it's sexual assault. If it happens to a man, it's complicated.

The other issue is proving that the lie did in fact lead to sex. A woman could easily claim that the man's pleasant smell was the main reason she slept with him, but after his deodorant and cologne wore off and his true scent was revealed, she felt deceived. Where (and how) do you draw the line?

I think the best way to avoid being caught in any kind of "trap" would be to practice a little bit of wisdom in who you put your dick in. I would suggest the vast majority of men would never be at risk of being bothered by this.

Why do you think a woman would go to such extraordinary lengths to harm a good guy? Or even a meh guy? This doesn't seem like the easiest way to be vindictive.
 
So can a man decide that he doesn't want to have sex with a slutty woman?

What exactly is a slutty woman? Do your slutty standards apply equally to men? I don't think they do.

Do you think we should start changing social norms to make it acceptable to ask women how many sexual partners they've had in the past year?

Who cares? Why would it matter? The thought of even considering it is an insult to women as far as I'm concerned.

Your deeply ingrained double standard is showing.

Most women right now would storm off and ignore any man who asks them that, but what you're suggesting is that it should be a normal part of the conversation and women should, in the interest of respecting the law, answer the question, even if they feel it violates their privacy.

Most women should storm off if asked the question.

Why can't women just be who they are and who they choose to be? Why are a lot men unwilling to accept women being equal in all ways? I don't understand it. Hell, look at this very subforum. Most of the topics are by men about women. WTF? Is it masculine insecurity?

They talk about their women too much
The women got 'em so confused
They don't talk about their lives as such
My life is all I got to lose

They take it with a grain of salt
And laugh at the complexities
They're good at pickin' all the faults
I keep laughin' so they don't pick me
~ Jimmy Buffett


Gentlemen, stop trying to figure women out. You can't. Let them be themselves and stop trying to make them into whatever twisted fantasy you have in your head. Stop being intimidated by women. Stop judging women by impossible standards.

Apparently a lot of guys don't get it. In my single and divorced days it was amazing to me how often women would talk about jerks they had known or met. It was almost like a script.

Respect a lady's privacy. She will tell you what she wants to tell you. She'll never tell you everything and it shouldn't matter anyway. Let that **** go, dudes.

When you do fall in love with a woman just remember that it took everything that happened to her in her life to make the person she was the day you fell in love with her. If she loves you and you love her then just go with it. Leave the rest alone. In the meantime relax and enjoy women being women. Give them respect and freedom. Stop trying to make it complicated.
 
Lying To Have Sex With Someone Could Soon Be Considered... | 10 daily

Now, I was originally appalled by this until I did a little research. Turns out laws like this already exist in some forms, because in certain unusual situations, a woman can be deceived into thinking she's sleeping with her boyfriend when it's in fact someone else. Also, as far as I know, not disclosing that you have a sexually transmitted disease has always been frowned upon by the law in most countries. Any reasonable person should be OK with that.

But the way new laws are being proposed in Australia is a worrying sign of empowerment gone too far. Basically, even talking yourself up or just driving an expensive car to insinuate you have a lot of money, can become a crime if it leads to sex. In other words, if the woman regrets sleeping with you, you committed an act of sexual assault; sex by deception.

Although this represents an interesting scenario - I would argue that women deceive a lot more than men do. Women have a plethora of accessories, clothing, and other means of seeming more attractive than men do. Makeup, eyeliner, lipstick push-up bras, g-strings, perfume, hair extensions, fake fingernails, stockings, are all common forms of female attire designed solely to make them seem more attractive than they really are. It can easily be claimed that a man was falsely enticed to sleep with a woman because of these things.

That being said, something tells me these laws will be designed and enforced to err on the side of the woman. In other words, if it happens to a woman, it's sexual assault. If it happens to a man, it's complicated.

The other issue is proving that the lie did in fact lead to sex. A woman could easily claim that the man's pleasant smell was the main reason she slept with him, but after his deodorant and cologne wore off and his true scent was revealed, she felt deceived. Where (and how) do you draw the line?

Sex outside hetero marriage should be illegal.
 
Lying To Have Sex With Someone Could Soon Be Considered... | 10 daily

Now, I was originally appalled by this until I did a little research. Turns out laws like this already exist in some forms, because in certain unusual situations, a woman can be deceived into thinking she's sleeping with her boyfriend when it's in fact someone else. Also, as far as I know, not disclosing that you have a sexually transmitted disease has always been frowned upon by the law in most countries. Any reasonable person should be OK with that.

But the way new laws are being proposed in Australia is a worrying sign of empowerment gone too far. Basically, even talking yourself up or just driving an expensive car to insinuate you have a lot of money, can become a crime if it leads to sex. In other words, if the woman regrets sleeping with you, you committed an act of sexual assault; sex by deception.

Although this represents an interesting scenario - I would argue that women deceive a lot more than men do. Women have a plethora of accessories, clothing, and other means of seeming more attractive than men do. Makeup, eyeliner, lipstick push-up bras, g-strings, perfume, hair extensions, fake fingernails, stockings, are all common forms of female attire designed solely to make them seem more attractive than they really are. It can easily be claimed that a man was falsely enticed to sleep with a woman because of these things.

That being said, something tells me these laws will be designed and enforced to err on the side of the woman. In other words, if it happens to a woman, it's sexual assault. If it happens to a man, it's complicated.

The other issue is proving that the lie did in fact lead to sex. A woman could easily claim that the man's pleasant smell was the main reason she slept with him, but after his deodorant and cologne wore off and his true scent was revealed, she felt deceived. Where (and how) do you draw the line?

Dude it is hard enough for actual date-rapists to get convicted as it is. I doubt a single case of 'he made up a good story to get laid' will ever make it to court. The laws will exist on the books only, which is why they can safely err on the woman's side every time. Whether they are enforced is a separate issue.
 
Sex outside hetero marriage should be illegal.

Keep your myths to yourself because nobody is asking for the approval of your sky fairy or your pedophile priests.
 
Keep your myths to yourself because nobody is asking for the approval of your sky fairy or your pedophile priests.

I think it's comical you atheists act like you're somehow immune to the consequences of immoral activity. That's why when you lives predictably fall apart, you have no idea why.
 
Lying To Have Sex With Someone Could Soon Be Considered... | 10 daily

Now, I was originally appalled by this until I did a little research. Turns out laws like this already exist in some forms, because in certain unusual situations, a woman can be deceived into thinking she's sleeping with her boyfriend when it's in fact someone else. Also, as far as I know, not disclosing that you have a sexually transmitted disease has always been frowned upon by the law in most countries. Any reasonable person should be OK with that.

But the way new laws are being proposed in Australia is a worrying sign of empowerment gone too far. Basically, even talking yourself up or just driving an expensive car to insinuate you have a lot of money, can become a crime if it leads to sex. In other words, if the woman regrets sleeping with you, you committed an act of sexual assault; sex by deception.

Although this represents an interesting scenario - I would argue that women deceive a lot more than men do. Women have a plethora of accessories, clothing, and other means of seeming more attractive than men do. Makeup, eyeliner, lipstick push-up bras, g-strings, perfume, hair extensions, fake fingernails, stockings, are all common forms of female attire designed solely to make them seem more attractive than they really are. It can easily be claimed that a man was falsely enticed to sleep with a woman because of these things.

That being said, something tells me these laws will be designed and enforced to err on the side of the woman. In other words, if it happens to a woman, it's sexual assault. If it happens to a man, it's complicated.

The other issue is proving that the lie did in fact lead to sex. A woman could easily claim that the man's pleasant smell was the main reason she slept with him, but after his deodorant and cologne wore off and his true scent was revealed, she felt deceived. Where (and how) do you draw the line?

There is no law that says women can lie to men and let men miss their turn. Why do women do it? there ought to be law!
 
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