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Young transgender regret

CLAX1911 said:
The thing is you look at the emperor and you chuckled because he's naked, you simply aren't sophisticated enough to see the new clothes.

If you get the drift, hope that's not too cryptic.
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That's what Trump supporters are doing. They're seeing the new clothes.
 
AProudLefty said:
That's what Trump supporters are doing. They're seeing the new clothes.
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Catholic priest: You're like a blind man, in a totally black room, looking for a black cat that isn't there

Atheist: You know you're like a blind man, in a totally black room, looking for a black cat that isn't there....only difference is you've found the cat.
 
RetiredUSN said:
You are full of beans.

What a sick response.
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How is a statement of facts sick? He made 2 positive statements of fact.
1.)People are either born transgendered or they aren't.

2.)7-year-old children are not transitioning except to wear the clothes/grooming and use the pronouns of their choice.
 
Lisa said:
How is a statement of facts sick? He made 2 positive statements of fact.
1.)People are either born transgendered or they aren't.
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it wasn't a statement of facts it was a statement of falsehoods. To claim that a falsehood is a fact is gas-lighting.
2.)7-year-old children are not transitioning except to wear the clothes/grooming and use the pronouns of their choice.
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That would be psychologically damaging to a child. That is sick to experiment on children like that.
 
CLAX1911 said:
it wasn't a statement of facts it was a statement of falsehoods. To claim that a falsehood is a fact is gas-lighting.

That would be psychologically damaging to a child. That is sick to experiment on children like that.
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How can it be damaging to the child when it is the child's desire to choose their manner and style of clothing? It would seem that forcing them to wear what is unnatural and uncomfortable to them would be harmful.
 
Lisa said:
How can it be damaging to the child when it is the child's desire to choose their manner and style of clothing?
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it's damaging to give into children's desires. They might want to eat cookies and candy all day but you don't let them because when they will have problems.

It's damaging to raise a transgender child to be transgendered because of the amount of problems that are associated with being transgender like the 40% suicide rate.
It would seem that forcing them to wear what is unnatural and uncomfortable to them would be harmful.
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So they should be allowed to be nudists?
 
Lisa said:
Did you read the book by Claire Ruth Winter because citing the bibliography entry on Wikipedia isn't proof of anyrthing.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!! Infinitely more authoritative then the silly ideas bouncing around in your head.
 
AProudLefty said:
Odd way to say it. It isn't logical. I can lie and say I identify as gay but that doesn't make me gay.
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Course it does. Homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual, these are identities chosen by the individual.
 
AProudLefty said:
Nobody is "transitioning" 7 years olds. People are either born a transgender or they are not.
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It is a social construct. People are not born with a social construct.
 
AProudLefty said:
Nobody is "transitioning" 7 years olds. People are either born a transgender or they are not.
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Kids go through phases too, a 7 or a 3 or a 12 year old have very little concept of the ramifications of, nor the actuality of making gender declarative statements.
 
Lisa said:
How is a statement of facts sick? He made 2 positive statements of fact.
1.)People are either born transgendered or they aren't.

2.)7-year-old children are not transitioning except to wear the clothes/grooming and use the pronouns of their choice.
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Lisa... the problem isn't that kids who may or may not be trans are getting support, it's that kids are being used to push an agenda, and there are no brake checks. If little timmy says "I'm a GIRL" at age 5, and is rushed into "living as a girl" (which DOES HAPPEN) and is railroaded into a life choice that maybe,, maybe it was just a phase. Kids go through those. Used to be parents would just smile, oh you want to be an astronaut, oh you're a tomboy... and those phases pass. My buddy, his sister was never doing girly things as a kid. She was "one of the boys" as they say. She's played with her brothers, she wore her hair short, you wouldn't CATCH her in a dress.

She was homecoming queen, cheerleader, and the most girly girly girl you ever saw after about her freshman year. I bring this up because he and I were talking about this the other day, he wonders if his sister would have been pushed into "being a boy" today. It's a good question.
 
dixon01767 said:
Course it does. Homosexual, bisexual, heterosexual, these are identities chosen by the individual.
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You're not understanding my point. People here always tell me that just because they identify as the opposite sex does not make it so. I can, for example, pretend to be gay to gain access to private clubs.
 
Renae said:
Lisa... the problem isn't that kids who may or may not be trans are getting support, it's that kids are being used to push an agenda, and there are no brake checks. If little timmy says "I'm a GIRL" at age 5, and is rushed into "living as a girl" (which DOES HAPPEN) and is railroaded into a life choice that maybe,, maybe it was just a phase. Kids go through those. Used to be parents would just smile, oh you want to be an astronaut, oh you're a tomboy... and those phases pass. My buddy, his sister was never doing girly things as a kid. She was "one of the boys" as they say. She's played with her brothers, she wore her hair short, you wouldn't CATCH her in a dress.

She was homecoming queen, cheerleader, and the girliest girly girl you ever saw after about her freshman year. I bring this up because he and I were talking about this the other day, he wonders if his sister would have been pushed into "being a boy" today. It's a good question.
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I fail to see how this is a problem when it is the child who is making the decisions on how to dress. Nobody is pushing her to do anything and there is no medication involved. They are merely letting her express herself and being supportive. It would be extremely unethical, espcially to a child, to be encouraging her to do anything that she doesn't feel comfortable to do. She is a child and let her be a child, even if her dress and grooming are incongruent with her supposed biological gender. if she decides that she isn't trans then she learned and she is still who she is.

I feel the same way about adult trans people. Nobody should be telling them how to dress. That would be just as bad as when someone told them how to dress before they came out and admitted their transgendered feelings. The core concept of being transgendered is being comfortable in who you are. You are not to be used as a Barbie or Ken doll by your therapist for them to arrange your life as they think is correct. It is my choice how I wear my hair and dress and I have been making that decision for 40+ years. Trans people are far more emotionally vulnerable to suggestion and they should h be permitted to be who they are, even when they make fashion mistakes like I did when I was a teen and in my 20's. Thankful there were no cell phones and social media so only a few very people have a snapshot or even memories of those 1980s horrific mistakes.
 
AProudLefty said:
Are you saying that society decides if a person is a man or a woman when he/she is born?
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No the Drs determine sex when the child is born. We were talking about gender.
 
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