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Young transgender regret

dixon01767 said:
????? You have some history you can share with us that predates the Jewish reasons? And washing wont stop HIV virus.
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Neither does cutting off the end of your dick
 
Crusader13 said:
My God...shut the **** up! You're truly a sick individual if you think it's OK to sexually mutilate children because they want to play with barbies instead of monster trucks. Even if they do have hormonal discrepancies, there is no guarantee that they will grow up to be transgender. Remember, "gender is a social construct", which means trans"gender" is also a social construct. That child may happily grow up to be a male who simply acts a little more feminine than most males, or vice versa. You don't get to decide to mutilate their bodies with drugs and surgical procedures just to push them into your demented agenda.

Let me guess, you probably also think that religious nuts who force their ideology onto helpless children are detestable. How dare they read the Bible to their children and drag them along to church before they're even able to consent to this fairytale belief system!! Want to chop of your kid's penis though - sure go ahead.
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We got a triggered fundie right here folks! Arent you proud of yourself?
 
bomberfox said:
We got a triggered fundie right here folks! Arent you proud of yourself?
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You're using the words all wrong.

A college students who breaks down in hysteria because Ben Shapiro said abortion is wrong = triggered.

Not wanting kids to be mutilated until theyre old enough to consent to these things themselves = common sense.
 
Integrityrespec said:
I don't have a wealth of information but I have done some reading on this issue. Seems I see a lot of "experts" talk about the pyschological impact of transitioning being basically ignored on the front end in favor of a liberal policy of let them do what they want. I think there is, again from some of what I've seen, sort of a kind of "believe women" mentality to transgender. You cannot question it and you cannot suggest that there is a possible psych problem. A good example is the Texas mom trying to transition her son to a female at the age of 7 or so. That's weird.
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I see her as munchausen by proxy.
 
dixon01767 said:
The wordsmiths are always coming up with new names. Those are just alternatives to gay or lesbian. Classifying sexual orientation by the sex they are attracted to as opposed to the relation to their own sex. Which is absurd, to classify a heterosexual woman as having the same sexual orientation as a homosexual man.
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Gender identity and sexual orientation are not connected.
 
Crusader13 said:
You're using the words all wrong.

A college students who breaks down in hysteria because Ben Shapiro said abortion is wrong = triggered.

Not wanting kids to be mutilated until theyre old enough to consent to these things themselves = common sense.
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Ranting about mutilation and hacking off penises at someone who only suggested a reversible medication regime, with the extra whining about how I must think giving children religion is "detestable". That definitely = triggered.

That would be you.

Have a nice day.
 
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Lisa said:
You are being held back by your confirmation bias. Just because you may agree with a statement or a claim doesn't mean that it is factually true. .
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That would seem to be what you are doing.
 
Hamish Howl said:
Gender identity and sexual orientation are not connected.
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Sure it is. A gay man becomes a heterosexual woman in her mind by transitioning her gender identity.
 
dixon01767 said:
Sure it is. A gay man becomes a heterosexual woman in her mind by transitioning her gender identity.
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A a person does not transition their gender identity because it is determined before birth and cannot be changed. This was proven by John Money and others.

You still do not understand that sexual orientation and gender identity are very different. Gay men don't want to be a woman. Any gay guy who tried to as a way to come to terms with his sexual orientation would be weeded out of the gender program when the therapist discovered that they are CIS.
 
Lisa said:
A a person does not transition their gender identity because it is determined before birth and cannot be changed.
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No, that's what you need to believe, in order to make sense of what you so desperately want to believe. "Identity". It is a choice. Ever hear of the term gender fluid? Would you deny them their identity?


Lisa said:
This was proven by John Money and others.

You still do not understand that sexual orientation and gender identity are very different. Gay men don't want to be a woman. Any gay guy who tried to as a way to come to terms with his sexual orientation would be weeded out of the gender program when the therapist discovered that they are CIS.
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I didnt claim they were not different.

moving between genders or having a fluctuating gender identity (genderfluid);[6]
^ Winter, Claire Ruth (2010). Understanding Transgender Diversity: A Sensible Explanation of Sexual and Gender Identities. CreateSpace. ISBN 978-1-4563-1490-3. OCLC 703235508.
Non-binary gender - Wikipedia
 
dixon01767 said:
No, that's what you need to believe, in order to make sense of what you so desperately want to believe. "Identity". It is a choice. Ever hear of the term gender fluid? Would you deny them their identity?




I didnt claim they were not different.

moving between genders or having a fluctuating gender identity (genderfluid);[6]
^ Winter, Claire Ruth (2010). Understanding Transgender Diversity: A Sensible Explanation of Sexual and Gender Identities. CreateSpace. ISBN 978-1-4563-1490-3. OCLC 703235508.
Non-binary gender - Wikipedia
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A person who is gender fluid has a gender idenity that is neither absolutely male nor female. Gender fluid is the gender idneity equaivent of being bisexual.
 
Rich2018 said:
I doubt the contents of the library are listed on a web page.
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I can search the entire combined catalog of a 4 -5 county area, request a book and have to deliver to my local library free of charge and within a week if the book is in the stacks. I can pick the book up at a drive-thru window at the library. Its an amazing luxury for someone who thrives on reading.

CLEVNET
 
Lisa said:
A person who is gender fluid has a gender idenity that is neither absolutely male nor female. Gender fluid is the gender idneity equaivent of being bisexual.
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They are on the days they choose to identify as the gender opposite of the one their genitals reveal.
 
dixon01767 said:
They are on the days they choose to identify as the gender opposite of the one their genitals reveal.
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They are not transgendered in the same way that people who are bisexual are not gay.

People who are gender fluid or bigender is analogous to being bisexual.
 
Lisa said:
They are not transgendered in the same way that people who are bisexual are not gay.

People who are gender fluid or bigender is analogous to being bisexual.
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Well, lots of people who are bisexual choose to identify as either heterosexual or homosexual and Claire Ruth Winter who wrote "Understanding Transgender Diversity" disagrees.
 
dixon01767 said:
Well, lots of people who are bisexual choose to identify as either heterosexual or homosexual and Claire Ruth Winter who wrote "Understanding Transgender Diversity" disagrees.
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If they identify as heterosexual or homosexual then they are by definition not bisexual, unless they also admit to being liars and hypocrites.


Please post the supporting quote by Ms. Winter to support your claim. I have not read the book.
 
Lisa said:
If they identify as heterosexual or homosexual then they are by definition not bisexual, unless they also admit to being liars and hypocrites.
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They are bisexual when they choose to identify as bisexual.

Lisa said:
Please post the supporting quote by Ms. Winter to support your claim. I have not read the book.
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Already have.

dixon01767 said:
moving between genders or having a fluctuating gender identity (genderfluid);[6]
^ Winter, Claire Ruth (2010). Understanding Transgender Diversity: A Sensible Explanation of Sexual and Gender Identities. CreateSpace. ISBN 978-1-4563-1490-3. OCLC 703235508.
Non-binary gender - Wikipedia
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dixon01767 said:
They are bisexual when they choose to identify as bisexual.



Already have.
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Did you read the book by Claire Ruth Winter because citing the bibliography entry on Wikipedia isn't proof of anyrthing.
 
Renae said:
'Hundreds' of young trans people seeking help to return to original sex | UK News | Sky News
I, am not surprised at this. Transitioning is serious business and I think there are too many "cheerleader" therapists out there. I ran into quite a few who on first session were ready to put me on HRT. Granted I did decide to take this journey, no regrets, my experience made me realize how... easy? It would be for someone to start transitioning when one isn't ready.
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As you know...I think. I support the transgender people all the way. But when we start talking about transitioning 7 year old's....I draw the line.
 
RetiredUSN said:
As you know...I think. I support the transgender people all the way. But when we start talking about transitioning 7 year old's....I draw the line.
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Nobody is "transitioning" 7 years olds. People are either born a transgender or they are not.
 
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