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    Re: Teacher Sues School District for Firing Him Over His Use of a Trans Pronoun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Absolutely correct, take your pick of the SE Asian "Tiger" economies





    Maybe, but supply would meet demand and a new S&D equilibrium would form





    Why would alternative sources be in the USA ?



    “Absolutely correct, take your pick of the SE Asian "Tiger" economies”

    Uh-huh. So, I was being sarcastic. Now, you’re joking. I mean, total SE Asia exports to the world is $328B

    South Asia Trade Statistics | WITS

    and to the US is $186B.

    U.S.- ASEAN-10 Trade and Investment Facts | United States Trade Representative

    Meanwhile, China exports $2.3T to the US. Yeah, right. Like your SE Asian “Tiger” economies of yours can make hardly any part of that up. However, now that you mention SE Asia, the US has been overtaken by Southeast Asia as China's No. 2 trade partner, with American exports plunging 30% as Beijing finds other suppliers in SE Asia.

    US overtaken by Southeast Asia as China's No. 2 trade partner -
    Nikkei Asian Review


    Also, to dodge US tariffs, Chinese exporters are shifting production to SE Asia. Like Trump said, trade wars, tariffs, are easy.

    US-China tariffs: Chinese exporters shift production to Southeast Asia

    Hilarious.

    “Maybe, but supply would meet demand and a new S&D equilibrium would form”

    Do you realize you pretty much repeated what you said before to which I replied and that to which you now give a non-responsive reply? The “new equilibrium” will be more costly to the American consumer. Period.

    "Why would alternative sources be in the USA ?"

    There are none. Again, I was being sarcastic. To move what is now being produced in China to the US we would either have to pay American workers Chinese wages, immigrate Chinese-wage workers or pay higher prices for product made by American wage workers. None of those options, obviously, is realistic. We could only go to other countries that can produce product at same or near cost. Or, China can move production to those countries. Like they’re doing now as I mentioned above.

    And finally, we are off-topic. But it’s been fun.

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    Re: Teacher Sues School District for Firing Him Over His Use of a Trans Pronoun.

    Quote Originally Posted by bluesmoke View Post
    ...total SE Asia exports to the world is $328B...

    Learn to use to quotation function


    So a rise in production...you could also include the Indian sub continent and Mexico/South America


    ...China exports $2.3T to the US. Yeah, right. Like your SE Asian “Tiger” economies of yours can make hardly any part of that up. However, now that you mention SE Asia, the US has been overtaken by Southeast Asia as China's No. 2 trade partner, with American exports plunging 30% as Beijing finds other suppliers in SE Asia....
    So the US consumer market can't replace Chinese made imports?


    ...to move what is now being produced in China to the US we would either have to pay American workers Chinese wages...
    Then move Chinese sources of production to other non-American sources.

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    Re: Teacher Sues School District for Firing Him Over His Use of a Trans Pronoun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Learn to use to quotation function


    So a rise in production...you could also include the Indian sub continent and Mexico/South America




    So the US consumer market can't replace Chinese made imports?




    Then move Chinese sources of production to other non-American sources.


    “Learn to use to quotation function”

    Why is my preference of your concern? You obviously understand my style of differentiation between what you said and my reply. Does it bother you?

    “So a rise in production...you could also include the Indian sub continent and Mexico/South America”

    NE India could be included, but that is difficult to delineate. What is commonly accepted as the SE Asia economy is the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) of Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam. Learn to research.

    “So the US consumer market can't replace Chinese made imports?”

    Of $16.3T in the total of all the world’s exports, $2.3T was from China to the US. You figure it out. And at what price.

    I’m cutting us off here. We’re totally off-topic. And, you aren’t willing to do the work necessary to carry-on an informed debate.

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    Re: Teacher Sues School District for Firing Him Over His Use of a Trans Pronoun.

    Quote Originally Posted by bluesmoke View Post
    Why is my preference of your concern?

    Well it's easier for you to use and would make your posts clearer to read.


    ...NE India could be included, but that is difficult to delineate...
    Great are you sure you meant that word ?
    Quantify would be a better word - learn to use English better


    ...of $16.3T in the total of all the world’s exports, $2.3T was from China to the US. You figure it out. And at what price....
    No you go right ahead and tell what your data shows



    ...I’m cutting us off here...


    Good, use the time in education.

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    Re: Teacher Sues School District for Firing Him Over His Use of a Trans Pronoun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Well it's easier for you to use and would make your posts clearer to read.




    Great are you sure you meant that word ?
    Quantify would be a better word - learn to use English better




    No you go right ahead and tell what your data shows







    Good, use the time in education.


    Start your own thread or find an appropriate one for our debate at hand and let me know. I'm not going to continue violating DP rules by staying off-topic on an OP that deserves otherwise.

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    Re: Teacher Sues School District for Firing Him Over His Use of a Trans Pronoun.

    Quote Originally Posted by bluesmoke View Post
    ....I'm not going to continue violating DP rules by staying off-topic on an OP that deserves otherwise.
    Threads often meander to take in other subjects.

    Your surrender is accepted however.

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    Re: Teacher Sues School District for Firing Him Over His Use of a Trans Pronoun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mashmont View Post
    A Virginia teacher is suing his school district after he was fired for refusing to use a trans student'''s pronouns, arguing that doing so would have been '''telling a lie'''

    I am just sick of the Marxist left imposing its perversion on decent people like this teacher. He apparently called a trans student a pronoun "her" in accordance with her birth gender. She complained, and the cowardly school board fired the teacher. Now's he's suing. Good for him. I hope he sues the hell out of them and wins. I am SICK of Christian values being infringed upon every single minute by the far left radicals, whose ultimate goal, is the downfall of this country which would enable the few Marxists to take control and enrich themselves casting the populus into poverty and imprisonment.

    #26. " Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural and healthy."" - Cleon Skousen, The 45 Communist Goals for America, as read to Congress, January 10, 1963

    See, the far left was stuck on gay rights for years. Then with the gay marriage ruling by the Supreme Court, they got everything they had ever wanted and more. But of course it was never about helping gays, or the activism would have ended there. No, it's about pushing a divisive agenda, so then they moved on to trans issues. Now they will seek to divide us according to this perversion. And if they win.....will they stop there? Hell no. They will move on to some other God-knows-what deeper level of perversion to push.

    Imagine how unthinkable this crazy story would have been 30 years ago. It just shows how far the radical perverse Marxist influence has gotten. At some point, we have to stand up and overthrow ALL of this garbage. We need a reversal of the gay marriage ruling. We need a rollback of perversion.

    Bad things happen to civilizations who embrace perversion. Consider the AIDS epidemic but a warning. Think Sodom and Gomorrah if we continue. "And the exploding meteor, with heat approaching that of the sun, incinerated Sodom and everything in it. Indeed the soil became so toxic, nothing grew there for 600 years."

    I pray America has an enormous spiritual awakening before God decides He has had quite enough.
    An interesting case. The SCOTUS has yet to address how religious expression rights and civil rights intersect in much of the LGBTQ world. My guess/hope is that it will ultimately decide that religious rights cannot violate civil rights. In other words, just as places of public accommodation cannot discriminate against people based on their color, religion, ethnicity, etc., they should also be prohibited discriminating based on sexual orientation and gender identity. If the terms "sex" and "gender" do not already legally apply to those characteristics, then the federal and the states' anti-discrimination statutes should be amended.

    Taken separately from the legal context, though, this teacher is just an asshole. He has to refer to the student by some pronoun. If the student selects "him" over "her", then who is the teacher to harmfully discriminate? In other words, what is the measure of damage to the teacher by verbalizing "him" rather than "her" versus the measure of damage to the student by being referred to as "her" rather than "him"? I think the student's mental wellbeing suffers more than the teacher's religious preferences. Is it enough to be fired? It is if the employer enforces policies to that effect and if the courts agree with the school board.

    An analogy occurs to me. The name Matthew is biblical and appears on a lot of birth certificates (just like "female" presumably appears on the student's). A lot of Matthews call themselves Matt. If the teacher insists on calling Matt by his full, given, Bible-inspired name, does he deserve to be fired? Maybe not, but if the student and the student's parents and the school's administrators instruct the teacher on multiple occasions to call Matthew Matt and he obstinately refuses, then he's a prick, at the very least. Religion has been used as a weapon for most of human history, but whenever religious bigots decided they were constitutionally enabled to treat minorities like **** is when they fundamentally destroyed the foundations of their faiths. I imagine that the teacher will just go farther out of his way to demean transgender people after this incident, but at least he'll be doing it from the unemployment line.

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    Re: Teacher Sues School District for Firing Him Over His Use of a Trans Pronoun.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rich2018 View Post
    Threads often meander to take in other subjects.

    Your surrender is accepted however.

    Having taken my own advice, please see my post #9 and #15 on

    AP Fact Check: Trump’s premature win on trade, Syria fiction

    and continue your education.

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    Re: Teacher Sues School District for Firing Him Over His Use of a Trans Pronoun.

    Quote Originally Posted by bluesmoke View Post
    ...continue your education...
    ....that you are opinionated

    That there's no alternative.

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