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Self Identification Demands Placed On Others

Rich2018 said:
So the man with a vagina still retain the decision on which bathroom to use ?

Post# 394 seems to take the decision away when you said:

"though the man with the vagina should be in the men's room...""

So regardless of anatomy, the man should use the men's room
And conversely, the woman with the penis should use the women's ?
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Yes that's correct. Those who identify as men should use men's restrooms, and those who identify as women should use women's restrooms. Those who identify as neither should use whichever restroom they feel most comfortable in. I don't think this should be a law, I simply think that this is proper social etiquette.
 
lwf said:
Yes that's correct. Those who identify as men should use men's restrooms, and those who identify as women should use women's restrooms. Those who identify as neither should use whichever restroom they feel most comfortable in. I don't think this should be a law, I simply think that this is proper social etiquette.
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Are you going to instigate an identifying badge system ?

The only modern day answer is to have individual bathrooms like on airplanes
 
Rich2018 said:
Are you going to instigate an identifying badge system ?

The only modern day answer is to have individual bathrooms like on airplanes
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No, I said it should be a matter of etiquette, not a law. If a man who identifies as a man uses a women's restroom simply in order to make a point, I will judge him as a rude asshole. I will not call the police based solely on his restroom choice.

Individual restrooms are fine, but tend to struggle to accommodate a high volume of customers. There is nothing wrong with keeping restrooms the way they are, so long as those who identify as a different gender than the one traditionally assigned to their sex feel comfortable using the restroom that most closely matches their gender, even if it doesn't match their sex. I also see no problem with unisex group restrooms.
 
lwf said:
No, I said it should be a matter of etiquette, not a law.
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So you can pick a bathroom to use on a whim ?


Individual restrooms are fine, but tend to struggle to accommodate a high volume of customers. There is nothing wrong with keeping restrooms the way they are, so long as those who identify as a different gender than the one traditionally assigned to their sex feel comfortable using the restroom that most closely matches their gender, even if it doesn't match their sex. I also see no problem with unisex group restrooms.
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Individual bathrooms (why can't you call them toilets?) shouldn't take up and more time than an individual stall does.
 
Rich2018 said:
So you can pick a bathroom to use on a whim ?
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Legally speaking: Yes, currently. And I believe it should continue to be so.

Rich2018 said:
Individual bathrooms (why can't you call them toilets?) shouldn't take up and more time than an individual stall does.
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Lol. I'm not calling them toilets because a toilet is not a room. It is the porcelain thing you sit on to do your business. But if you mean "restroom" when you say toilet, then fine. Individual TOILETS wouldn't take up any more time than an individual stall does AFTER they've been constructed. They would cost more to construct, however, and take up more room.

That said: I have nothing against any establishment that chooses to devote a large percentage of its square footage to having 10 individually constructed single toilet restrooms with their own lockable doors. You are correct to say that this would be a good compromise, assuming you could find a single business owner who would find such a project worth the expense.
 
lwf said:
Legally speaking: Yes, currently. And I believe it should continue to be so....
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I think you'll run into a few privacy issues there

I'm not calling them toilets because a toilet is not a room. It is the porcelain thing you sit on to do your business. But if you mean "restroom" when you say toilet, then fine. Individual TOILETS wouldn't take up any more time than an individual stall does AFTER they've been constructed. They would cost more to construct, however, and take up more room.
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A toilet is a room (or fenced off area) with a toilet in it
Why don't "restrooms" have a bed in them, so you can take a rest ?

Why are you afraid of bodily functions?

That said: I have nothing against any establishment that chooses to devote a large percentage of its square footage to having 10 individually constructed single toilet restrooms with their own lockable doors. You are correct to say that this would be a good compromise, assuming you could find a single business owner who would find such a project worth the expense.
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In many bars and restaurants in Europe, the toilets are exactly like that.
I've even seen them in Atlanta but hilariously with name tags like "men" and "women" when they're identical.
 
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