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Self Identification Demands Placed On Others

I am not aware of any transgender people trying to force others to accept their gender identity. The funny thing is usually people are not aware trans people are transgender. So no force is needed.

This discussion really isn't about how you behave in society it's about hypotheticals. So real life application is not very relevant in the discussion.
 
This discussion really isn't about how you behave in society it's about hypotheticals. So real life application is not very relevant in the discussion.

Well it isn't an hypothetical for the OP. ;)
 
Your movements are far from silky smooth and your attitudes are sometimes a tad uncaring and abrasive to those around you?
I don't think those are your biggest problems right at the moment.

Right at the moment, your biggest problems seem to be the fact that you invest an inordinate amount of time and effort in exhibiting attention-seeking behavior on an anonymous political message board.
The half a million or so transgender people in this country probably don't give two ****s if you think they're men or women, so good look with your crusade.



Your words would be a comfort except that they are empty, inaccurate and misleading.

One of the various aims of the liberal elite is to force the general public to accept and support obvious fantasy as factual truth using penalty of law.

Was this abuse of reason and sanity defined for us in the civics classes now suspended by the Liberal Elites?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...onoun-they-demand-that-you-use/?noredirect=on
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What’s more, according to the City, “refusal to use a transgender employee’s preferred name, pronoun, or title may constitute unlawful gender-based harassment.”
The label “harassment” is important here because harassment law requires employers and businesses to prevent harassment by co-workers and patrons and not just by themselves or their own employees;
this is particularly well established for harassment by co-workers, but it has also been accepted for harassment by fellow patrons.
So an employer or business that learns that its employees or patrons are “refus[ing] to use a transgender employee’s preferred” pronoun or title would have to threaten to fire or eject such people unless they comply with the City’s demands.
(The logic would also apply to landlords having to threaten to eject tenants who refuse to use co-tenants’ preferred pronouns or titles, but that’s less certain.)
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...the government as sovereign, threatening “civil penalties up to $125,000 for violations, and up to $250,000 for violations that are the result of willful, wanton, or malicious conduct” if people don’t speak the way the government tells them to speak.
<snip>
 
It wasn't always the case, but meeting and working with people with minority sexualities taught me they are people just like me with feelings too and every bit as valuable.

So they are. So are short people.

Is it discriminatory for the NBA to not employ 5 foot tall power forwards?

What if the 5 foot tall aspiring power forward really, REALLY believes he/she could do the job.

Is it discriminatory to not pay that little guy millions and send him out to get pounded by the other power forwards?

If not, why not?
 
If you have one of these in your pocket, you'll be attractive to women:

1915-S $50 Pan-Pac Octagonal (Regular Strike) Gold Commemorative - PCGS CoinFacts

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How will they know it's in my pocket?
 
If a biological man wants to self-identify as a woman and have the "she/her" applied in conversation and address, I'll oblige them. That's only polite.

But I won't call that person a woman. Because you're not a woman. You're still a man. Truth is not always polite.

I agree with your actions, but truth is not always polite.

Do these jeans make my butt look fat? Be VERY careful with the amount of truth employed in your answer.
 
What is the definition of a woman then ?


A man without a penis ?

Mark Stein mused that if a woman in a Women's Room is offended by the penis of another woman, she simply needs to be more open minded.
 
What do you call the intersex people then? hiwoman?

Like all of us, they are searching and questioning.

For whatever reason, this particular questions has hijacked their life.
 
1.) With the recent insanity regarding individuals demanding that the rest of us accept their insanity of self identification counter to reality, a thought struck me.
2.)I happen to be an old guy about 10 or 20 pounds heavier than I would like to be. I have numerous skin areas that have veins displayed resembling maps of river deltas.
My face has wrinkles and my posture is less straight than I would prefer. My movements are far from silky smooth and my attitudes are sometimes a tad uncaring and abrasive to those around me.
I'm pretty sure that if the great majority of women witnessed my naked body, locally or internationally, they would ask me to please put some clothes on ASAP.
All of that said, I would like to self identify immediately as a very handsome, intelligent and graceful young man, physically beautiful and unblemished, with an engaging manner that is the fantasy dream of women.
3.) When I make known my new self identification, is everyone now obligated to treat me in the way that my new self identification demands?
4.) Just wondering... At what point will the stupid insanity of the insane Left be called out for what it is?

1.) what are you talking about? where is that happening and who is doing that?
2.) You are free to WANT anything you want but again what are you talking about? What are you trying to relate your story too?
3.) obligated to treat you how you want? no of course not
4.) ??? again what insanity, now you are claiming its something people on the left are doing? . . wow

the only nonsense and insanity see is the hilarious incoherent meltdown posted in your failed illogical op lol
 
But you just said that it had to do with DNA, having or lacking a Y chromosome. Tests have shown that far more than "1 in 1000" people have DNA that does not match their genitalia inside their body, even as many as 1/100, which puts the number above that of transgendered people. Most people do not even know they have it, like the person discussed in the link I provided. I very likely have Y sex chromosomes in my body, and they will almost certainly be there still (given the results of research into this) when I die, even if that is 60 years from now. If you are a man, you have a pretty good chance of having female DNA in your body, somewhere.

Genetic Chimeras: Are You Your Own Twin? - Scientific American Blog Network

And it mentions something that many don't think of, people with two different eye colors or two toned skin are more often than not found to be chimeras.

You have no right to see anyone's DNA tests, of any part of their body. That is HIPAA protected information. Why should they have to violate their privacy because of your insecurity and/or distrust? Plus, in order to determine if someone may be a chimera, in many cases, DNA would have to be taken from a number of different places throughout the body. A person could have that other DNA only in one body part, a part that is not tested on normal DNA tests.

So you're saying that my age related physical blemishes might just be genetic anomalies?

Exactly as I wished!
 
Transgender is around 0.5%, whereas intersex (which doesn't even count having opposite gender DNA simply in your body) is estimated at around 1-2% of the population (about as common as having red hair naturally). That's 2 times as many who are intersexed as transgender, and we don't even really know when it to chimerism if maybe there could be a lot more. Even after death, we wouldn't normally look for DNA in every single tissue type.

But the point is that you don't interact with people based on what their DNA is. You interact with them first based on what you see, and then second, in most cases, based on what they tell you. If you saw someone who was androgynous, and you thought they were likely a man, but not sure, and they said no they are a woman, would you accept them at their word or ask for genetic or physical evidence?

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It sounds like the actual numbers are pretty cloudy...
 
That's because the real world is where the insanity is occurring.

What insanity, you haven't factually identified any yet, just ranting meltdowns. Please do so now, thanks
 
It sounds like the actual numbers are pretty cloudy...
As they are for anything, yet still pretty telling as to which is more rare.

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So you're saying that my age related physical blemishes might just be genetic anomalies?

Exactly as I wished!
You just identified them as age related. If they are found in others in fairly decent numbers, then that isnt an anomaly.

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With the recent insanity regarding individuals demanding that the rest of us accept their insanity of self identification counter to reality, a thought struck me.

I happen to be an old guy about 10 or 20 pounds heavier than I would like to be. I have numerous skin areas that have veins displayed resembling maps of river deltas.

My face has wrinkles and my posture is less straight than I would prefer. My movements are far from silky smooth and my attitudes are sometimes a tad uncaring and abrasive to those around me.

I'm pretty sure that if the great majority of women witnessed my naked body, locally or internationally, they would ask me to please put some clothes on ASAP.

All of that said, I would like to self identify immediately as a very handsome, intelligent and graceful young man, physically beautiful and unblemished, with an engaging manner that is the fantasy dream of women.

When I make known my new self identification, is everyone now obligated to treat me in the way that my new self identification demands?

Just wondering... At what point will the stupid insanity of the insane Left be called out for what it is?

When the right recognizes they've been supporting a lying con-man, the left will recognize you as anything you wish.
 
I agree with your actions, but truth is not always polite.

Do these jeans make my butt look fat? Be VERY careful with the amount of truth employed in your answer.

Ha! Don't ask questions that you don't want to hear the answers to.
 
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Your words would be a comfort except that they are empty, inaccurate and misleading.

One of the various aims of the liberal elite is to force the general public to accept and support obvious fantasy as factual truth using penalty of law.

Was this abuse of reason and sanity defined for us in the civics classes now suspended by the Liberal Elites?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...onoun-they-demand-that-you-use/?noredirect=on
<snip>
What’s more, according to the City, “refusal to use a transgender employee’s preferred name, pronoun, or title may constitute unlawful gender-based harassment.”
The label “harassment” is important here because harassment law requires employers and businesses to prevent harassment by co-workers and patrons and not just by themselves or their own employees;
this is particularly well established for harassment by co-workers, but it has also been accepted for harassment by fellow patrons.
So an employer or business that learns that its employees or patrons are “refus[ing] to use a transgender employee’s preferred” pronoun or title would have to threaten to fire or eject such people unless they comply with the City’s demands.
(The logic would also apply to landlords having to threaten to eject tenants who refuse to use co-tenants’ preferred pronouns or titles, but that’s less certain.)
<snip>
...the government as sovereign, threatening “civil penalties up to $125,000 for violations, and up to $250,000 for violations that are the result of willful, wanton, or malicious conduct” if people don’t speak the way the government tells them to speak.
<snip>

Do you understand the purpose for this ruling and the conditions that forced it to come to pass?
Give me your interpretation of it if you wish.
Why do YOU think this law came about?
 
Like all of us, they are searching and questioning.

For whatever reason, this particular questions has hijacked their life.

False.

They know who they are.
 
As they are for anything, yet still pretty telling as to which is more rare.

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Numbers that are useful are not cloudy.

One of my various complaints on the numbers in this area is that the estimates seem to be based more on anecdotes and less on statistics.
 
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