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Duggars expecting SIXTEENTH grandchild. Great example for young people.

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tres borrachos said:
Nothing says "well adjusted" like "I'm going to sneak into my sisters' beds and cop a feel" and "I'm going to work for the Family Research Council promoting family values while being addicted to internet porn and cheating on my wife with prostitutes and women on Ashley Madison looking to have affairs".
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Beacons of morality!
 
Mashmont said:
I'm saying 18 well-adjusted kids is a pretty great achievement. As for the touching, I believe he touched his sisters one time while they were asleep when he was very young. The girls never even realized it at the time. The father himself reported the matter. No charges were filed by prosecutors. What this really was was a vendatta by the Marxist media because Josh is an outspoken conservative.
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So, because they didn't realise it was happening, that makes it okay? Gotta love that superior morality you got there!
 
I don't get this, but fortunately I don't have to. If you want to raise your own personal army, go for it. I'm happy with two. Frankly, if you get enough people living in one house, you're likely to encounter many problems we witness in our general population, and that's not always pretty, to say the least. So, good luck.
 
TheGoverness said:
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with her dating a woman. And So what if her prior marriage broke up? Stuff doesn't work out all the time. I'm dating a woman; it's great. You should try it sometime.
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I've been married 31 years, sister.
 
TheGoverness said:
So, because they didn't realise it was happening, that makes it okay? Gotta love that superior morality you got there!
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Well somebody said the sisters were damaged. They weren't. Not if they didn't know what was going on in a one-off occurrence. That was my point.
 
tres borrachos said:
Nothing says "well adjusted" like "I'm going to sneak into my sisters' beds and cop a feel" and "I'm going to work for the Family Research Council promoting family values while being addicted to internet porn and cheating on my wife with prostitutes and women on Ashley Madison looking to have affairs".
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What? Him a cheater? But they didn't hold hands until they were engaged! Preposterous! It's almost like adding unreasonable restrictions to a romatic relationship is extremely unhealthy!
 
TheGoverness said:
Yeah, I'm not a ****ing baby factory. I'm going for a career, and I'm gonna make my own money. If I decide to have (or adopt) a kid in that time, then that'll be my own decision. But I'm certainly not spending my life seeing how many babies I can pop out of me. Absolutely not.
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That's fine. Some people choose to stay single. No problems there. Although, I would hope you wouldn't adopt until you're married.
 
Mashmont said:
Well somebody said the sisters were damaged. They weren't. Not if they didn't know what was going on in a one-off occurrence. That was my point.
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I'd certainly be damaged if I knew I had a sibling that touched me in a violating manner. And of course, you're trying to diminish it. Gotta love that superior morality!
 
Mashmont said:
Recently, America has been treated to all manner of sexual perversion stories by Hollywood and pop music figures. The latest is the heavily tattooed Miley Cyrus making a sham of her marriage and moving in with a woman. Cyrus lived with her husband for several years before finally marrying him. This is while she has promoted the immorality of Planned Parenthood and abortion, while having no kids of her own. "By your fruits shall we know ye"

But a beacon of light in this moral cesspool is the Duggar family. Recall the "19 kids and counting" family? For those who don't know, they are a Christian family that has a very strict code of moral behavior. When their teens were dating, no physical contact was allowed except for a side-hug at the end of dates, all of which were chaperoned. No hand-holding allowed until engagement. And no kissing until marriage. The formula has worked well. 19 well-adjusted kids and now their SIXTEENTH grandchild.

America is now in a trend where people are having children at a level below the replacement rate. This is godless leftism at work. Abortion and contraception all work against the teachings of God. "Be fruitful and multiply". The Duggars are following that law and setting a great example for the young people in our country. Jessa Duggar is a whale of a lot better example for teenage girls than fricking Miley Cyrus.
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"America is now in a trend where people are having children at a level below the replacement rate."

What decade were you born in? The world need not be concerned about the 'replacement rate' any longer since there's over 7 billion people living on the planet. The world can't sustain those numbers now with famine, disease, hunger and lack of basic needs to survive. If everyone popped out babies like the Duggar's breed we'd all starve to death.

Wasn't it that same evangelical religious people the ones who had a son that admitted to sexual perversion by sexually molesting three of his younger sisters? Oh yes, that's right, they're religious and only side-hug, don't drink or smoke, so he's forgiven. Any religion that exploits their women by giving them little choice about their own lives is not a good religion. I see very little difference between the Duggars and some of the criticism about Muslims. The cult-like 'quiverfull' movement teaches that wives should submit to have sex when ever their husbands want it. It teaches that their members should have as many babies as possible EXPLICITLY to increase the population of Christians in the US (with the implicit hope of out-populating the non-Christians).

The Duggars are bat**** crazy people and Arkansas deserves every one of them.
 
TheGoverness said:
I'd certainly be damaged if I knew I had a sibling that touched me in a violating manner. And of course, you're trying to diminish it. Gotta love that superior morality!
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Little kids do stuff. You wouldn't be damaged in this situation.
 
HumblePi said:
"America is now in a trend where people are having children at a level below the replacement rate."

What decade were you born in? The world need not be concerned about the 'replacement rate' any longer since there's over 7 billion people living on the planet. The world can't sustain those numbers now with famine, disease, hunger and lack of basic needs to survive. If everyone popped out babies like the Duggar's breed we'd all starve to death.

Wasn't it that same evangelical religious people the ones who had a son that admitted to sexual perversion by sexually molesting three of his younger sisters? Oh yes, that's right, they're religious and only side-hug, don't drink or smoke, so he's forgiven. Any religion that exploits their women by giving them little choice about their own lives is not a good religion. I see very little difference between the Duggars and some of the criticism about Muslims. The cult-like 'quiverfull' movement teaches that wives should submit to have sex when ever their husbands want it. It teaches that their members should have as many babies as possible EXPLICITLY to increase the population of Christians in the US (with the implicit hope of out-populating the non-Christians).

The Duggars are bat**** crazy people and Arkansas deserves every one of them.
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Mrs. Duggar seems very happy with her choices. What a shame you seek to make them for her. As a devout Catholic, I have never heard of any doctrine that says you should populate the world just to outnumber non-Christians. Huh?
 
Mashmont said:
I'm saying 18 well-adjusted kids is a pretty great achievement. As for the touching, I believe he touched his sisters one time while they were asleep when he was very young. The girls never even realized it at the time. The father himself reported the matter. No charges were filed by prosecutors. What this really was was a vendatta by the Marxist media because Josh is an outspoken conservative.
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"Marxist media"... there goes your credibility.

You have no idea how "well-adjusted" these kids are, nor what these 4 victims from his family or the 5th not in the family, are dealing with.

And I want to note for the record you are minimizing and defending what Josh did, and he even admitted to doing all this going so far as to step down from a few "conservative" organizations in the process, by suggesting these girls being asleep or being young is an excuse.

This whole thread is your call out of Miley Cyrus who you will judge harshly, all the while defending a known child molester.

This thread and the notions you have offered, your position of when someone deserves defense and forgiveness when others deserve nothing but scorn and judgement, your intention to suggest what is a model family vs. others... all of it, pathetic.

This is why "conservatism," especially religious conservatism gets the criticism it does.

Miley Cyrus has done plenty of things, and I have little interest in defending her, but what I cannot find in her background is molesting a sibling while pretending to be a "christian conservative" with "family values."
 
Logician Man said:
What are your qualifications to determine who gets damaged, or hurt, by what ?
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I just don't see how little kids can be harmed on a one-off thing they knew nothing about at the time by another kid. The girls say they weren't affected. Who are we to doubt them?
 
Mashmont said:
I just don't see how little kids can be harmed on a one-off thing they knew nothing about at the time by another kid. The girls say they weren't affected. Who are we to doubt them?
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Psychology and Psychiatry are clearly not your areas of expertise. More of an apologist for those who transgress little girls against their will. shame, shame...Speaking with forked tongue and such.
 
OrphanSlug said:
"Marxist media"... there goes your credibility.

You have no idea how "well-adjusted" these kids are, nor what these 4 victims from his family or the 5th not in the family, are dealing with.

And I want to note for the record you are minimizing and defending what Josh did, and he even admitted to doing all this going so far as to step down from a few "conservative" organizations in the process, by suggesting these girls being asleep or being young is an excuse.

This whole thread is your call out of Miley Cyrus who you will judge harshly, all the while defending a known child molester.

This thread and the notions you have offered, your position of when someone deserves defense and forgiveness when others deserve nothing but scorn and judgement, your intention to suggest what is a model family vs. others... all of it, pathetic.

This is why "conservatism," especially religious conservatism gets the criticism it does.

Miley Cyrus has done plenty of things, and I have little interest in defending her, but what I cannot find in her background is molesting a sibling while pretending to be a "christian conservative" with "family values."
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The major difference between Josh and Miley is Josh did something minor as a child that was blown way out of proportion. He is in no way the same as he was as a pre-teen. Cyrus, on the other hand, is as rude, profane, and defiant as ever. She expresses no remorse for her horrible past. She celebrates it, in fact. And again, this wouldn't be as much of a problem if she wasn't influencing thousands of troubled girls from messed-up 'families' who are in need of GREAT role models. Not trashy ones. And the worst part is, she's doing it all for MONEY.
 
Mashmont said:
Your sentiment would be correct if she weren't influencing thousands of 14-year-old girls from messed-up families who are in desperate need of a good role model, but instead want to be like trashy Miley.
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Yeah instead they should have role models such as religious figures molesting children. Yep, that's the ticket. :roll:
 
Mashmont said:
Mrs. Duggar seems very happy with her choices. What a shame you seek to make them for her. As a devout Catholic, I have never heard of any doctrine that says you should populate the world just to outnumber non-Christians. Huh?
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I could care less about the Duggars choices, just don't try forcing any of them on me. And, I am a Catholic, raised in the 'old ways' of the Church prior to Vatican II, so I know what I'm talking about here when it comes to Christian/Catholic theology. The 'Quiverfull' movement teaches their cult to multiply, be fruitful in order to outnumber those heathen, fornicators, homosexuals and blasphemers. It's a completely irresponsible and even dangerous theology. If the movement made it a practice to adopt children that are orphans or unwanted children born out of rape or incest, they would be doing the world a lot more good than just popping out as many offspring as they could. They're increasing the burden of overpopulation which in turn increases the rates of starvation in the world.
 
Praxas said:
Yeah instead they should have role models such as religious figures molesting children. Yep, that's the ticket. :roll:
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You people are very hard on a 12-year-old kid who was simply curious. But you go easy on the tattooed profane unrepentant pro-abortion cokehead who has made a mockery of relationships and marriage. And done so for MONEY. Leftwing hypocrisy just amazes me.
 
HumblePi said:
I could care less about the Duggars choices, just don't try forcing any of them on me. And, I am a Catholic, raised in the 'old ways' of the Church prior to Vatican II, so I know what I'm talking about here when it comes to Christian/Catholic theology. The 'Quiverfull' movement teaches their cult to multiply, be fruitful in order to outnumber those heathen, fornicators, homosexuals and blasphemers. It's a completely irresponsible and even dangerous theology. If the movement made it a practice to adopt children that are orphans or unwanted children born out of rape or incest, they would be doing the world a lot more good than just popping out as many offspring as they could. They're increasing the burden of overpopulation which in turn increases the rates of starvation in the world.
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Who is forcing anything on you? I'm Catholic too. I don't agree with their brand of religion in all details, but I agree with the way they raise their families. It is to be admired.
 
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