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What 'gay pride' is, and how it is manifested in the gay pride march.

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We do not feel pride in' being gay' or in our sexuality at all. Gay pride is about the personal coming out process and how we handled those challenges.

We feel personal and collective pride in how we responded to the social pressure, the stigma, the systemic efforts to shame and control us by the majority throughout decades and centuries of repression.


The Pride March performs three different but interconnected functions .
1. Celebrates all those individual personal victories in a public forum. Its sort of a public 'Victory Dance' over the cultural and social efforts to shame us into compliance and submission. This is a party with balloons and streamers and a theme. Its supposed be fun, cheeky, a bit wild, but it is not a really a super exclusive or private party. Just like most parties, gay people tend invite some straight guests along as their 'plus ones'. Of course there are always social tensions that complicate who gets invited and who is unwelcome at even the most open 'bring your own beer' house parties. We have our politics and egos too!
2. Represents a political statement in support of gay rights activism. This is essentially the same role that every other political protest performs whether it is a pro life march or anti war demonstration. It seeks media attention on the 'cause', and demands reform of perceived social and legal injustices. Activism is about confronting the status quo, and provoking a response. Immoderate and Intemperate speech is what all political protests are about. You don't bring your 'indoor voice' or your diplomats to a political demonstration.
3. It reinforces the collective ties within the LBGTQ subculture ( its 'counter-cultural' identity) and its sense of community. Subcultures can identify behind a religion, and ethnicity, a geographic area, or a set of mutual experiences. Like many other subcultures, The queer counter-culture originated as a negative response to the prevailing culture. It developed its own argot, symbols, style, musical and theatrical art, and memes.

The functions of gay pride marches, and their role in defining the relationship of the queer community to the broader straight culture will inevitably change and adapt over time and what purpose they need to serve both within the queer community, and in relation to exterior forces in the city they are being held in . How much 'party' we bring to it, how much political posturing we bring to it, and how much subcultural unity we want to stress, is up for grabs!

Not a lot of this translates well to 'straight pride march' but as far as I am concerned, who am I as a gay man, to tell you straights you can't try to find a purpose buried in there somewhere to march about.

The worry comes when the majority with the power and historic propensity to discriminate, bully and marginalize a minority, isn't very careful in its messaging, and packaging of its protest themes, it can become an excuse to do the same thing it did before.

When you have 85% membership in your big club, you are obligated to be more circumspect and careful than the 15% do in their little club.
 
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Your comments would be so much more impactful if your 'pride' parades didnt involve a bunch of clowns dancing around in assless chaps with dildoes glued to their foreheads. Sorry...there is pride...and then there is whatever the **** it is you think you are doing during your parades that indicate 'pride'. Its really hard to take any of you seriously after that.
 
Your comments would be so much more impactful if your 'pride' parades didnt involve a bunch of clowns dancing around in assless chaps with dildoes glued to their foreheads. Sorry...there is pride...and then there is whatever the **** it is you think you are doing during your parades that indicate 'pride'. Its really hard to take any of you seriously after that.

I find it telling that you chose to focus on the assless chaps and dildos instead of really discussing the topic. :lamo
 
I find it telling that you chose to focus on the assless chaps and dildos instead of really discussing the topic. :lamo
The minute you find it in you to post a comment worth responding to again, you be sure to let me know..mkay?Til then.....
 
The minute you find it in you to post a comment worth responding to again, you be sure to let me know..mkay?Til then.....

That funny because I decided to take the time to respond to your worthless post. Your post added nothing of any value to the conversation. Basically you are dismissing the OP based on your idiotic observation, which actually proved his point.
 
Your comments would be so much more impactful if your 'pride' parades didnt involve a bunch of clowns dancing around in assless chaps with dildoes glued to their foreheads. Sorry...there is pride...and then there is whatever the **** it is you think you are doing during your parades that indicate 'pride'. Its really hard to take any of you seriously after that.

One float goes by and VanceMack decides gay people can't be taken seriously.

Are you personally accountable for the actions of every last person who claims to be a conservative, Mr. Independent (seriously)? No? Then your post just another dishonest and hypocritical cheap shot aimed at a group long-targeted with hatred by those who enjoy such behavior.




Punching down isn't virtuous.
 
Your comments would be so much more impactful if your 'pride' parades didnt involve a bunch of clowns dancing around in assless chaps with dildoes glued to their foreheads. Sorry...there is pride...and then there is whatever the **** it is you think you are doing during your parades that indicate 'pride'. Its really hard to take any of you seriously after that.

We differ. Even though there are straights who stare, snicker and comment about the 'clowns who dance around in assless chaps with dildos', I realize that the vast majority of Straights are not so inclined. Most straights are capable of seeing and reacting to a bigger picture, and I don't waste time trying to define straights by those few who can't..
 
Your comments would be so much more impactful if your 'pride' parades didnt involve a bunch of clowns dancing around in assless chaps with dildoes glued to their foreheads. Sorry...there is pride...and then there is whatever the **** it is you think you are doing during your parades that indicate 'pride'. Its really hard to take any of you seriously after that.

Uh oh... someone felt their dick move one time when looking at some dude wearing ass-less chaps, and now has to be ugly about it...
 
One float goes by and VanceMack decides gay people can't be taken seriously.

Are you personally accountable for the actions of every last person who claims to be a conservative, Mr. Independent (seriously)? No? Then your post just another dishonest and hypocritical cheap shot aimed at a group long-targeted with hatred by those who enjoy such behavior.




Punching down isn't virtuous.

About as "independent" as I am straight.
 
Uh oh... someone felt their dick move one time when looking at some dude wearing ass-less chaps, and now has to be ugly about it...

Well, it certainly is the only thing that a bunch of conservatives love to focus on during pride parades, so they must be really into that. I will say though, I've never seen one person with a dildo glued to their head, at least not at the few times I've been to Houston Pride.
 
Your comments would be so much more impactful if your 'pride' parades didnt involve a bunch of clowns dancing around in assless chaps with dildoes glued to their foreheads. Sorry...there is pride...and then there is whatever the **** it is you think you are doing during your parades that indicate 'pride'. Its really hard to take any of you seriously after that.

/// It's really hard to take 'ANY' of you seriously after that. /// <----- blanket statement much ?
 
Well, it certainly is the only thing that a bunch of conservatives love to focus on during pride parades, so they must be really into that.

That or the dildos...it's all a little confusing. ;)

As a straight man, I reserve my ass-less chaps to gardening. Except the rose garden. Never the rose garden.
 
/// It's really hard to take 'ANY' of you seriously after that. /// <----- blanket statement much ?

Conservative goes and punches a kid in his head-- Guess I can't take any of them seriously now hurr durrr
 
Well, it certainly is the only thing that a bunch of conservatives love to focus on during pride parades, so they must be really into that. I will say though, I've never seen one person with a dildo glued to their head, at least not at the few times I've been to Houston Pride.

Yeah...I think gluing a dildo to one's head might be regrettable, irrespective of the level of pride that would indicate. That said, I'd rather have a dildo glued to my head than a MAGA hat, so....I guess nothing is impossible? ;)
 
Yeah...I think gluing a dildo to one's head might be regrettable, irrespective of the level of pride that would indicate. That said, I'd rather have a dildo glued to my head than a MAGA hat, so....I guess nothing is impossible? ;)

Yeah. I've got no good use for a dildo if it's stuck to my head. Unless I'm trying to be a sexual unicorn. :)
 
Your comments would be so much more impactful if your 'pride' parades didn't involve a bunch of clowns dancing around in assless chaps with dildoes glued to their foreheads. Sorry...there is pride...and then there is whatever the **** it is you think you are doing during your parades that indicate 'pride'. It's really hard to take any of you seriously after that.

Clowns in assless chaps and dildo wearing marchers aren't to be taken seriously. It is to be funny and irreverent. The pride parade is part party and part a show of support for a minority that refuses to be pushed to the fringes and marginalized.

Do you take marching leprechauns and Uncle Sam on stilts seriously?
 
Your comments would be so much more impactful if your 'pride' parades didnt involve a bunch of clowns dancing around in assless chaps with dildoes glued to their foreheads. Sorry...there is pride...and then there is whatever the **** it is you think you are doing during your parades that indicate 'pride'. Its really hard to take any of you seriously after that.

You are literally one of the angriest people on the whole forum.

You spend your posts mostly screaming and yelling at the top of your figurative voice at everything and anything you don’t like, mostly without any logical train of thought and then to top it off without a shred of self awareness, once again scream and yell at the top of your voice without any logical train of thought that it’s everyone else that’s bent out of shape.

So allow me to not take you seriously after years of that.
 
You are literally one of the angriest people on the whole forum.

You spend your posts mostly screaming and yelling at the top of your figurative voice at everything and anything you don’t like, mostly without any logical train of thought and then to top it off without a shred of self awareness, once again scream and yell at the top of your voice without any logical train of thought that it’s everyone else that’s bent out of shape.

So allow me to not take you seriously after years of that.


:lamo
 
We do not feel pride in' being gay' or in our sexuality at all. Gay pride is about the personal coming out process and how we handled those challenges.

We feel personal and collective pride in how we responded to the social pressure, the stigma, the systemic efforts to shame and control us by the majority throughout decades and centuries of repression.

My wife works at a job were lots of men and women from the LGBTQ community work.

We sometimes go out with them after work to bars they frequent.

Other people will ask us if we know that those are "gay bars" and we say sure.

We also say we like to dance, like to drink every once in awhile and enjoy the company.

We don't see LGBTQ people we see friends, it is not a gay bar but a bar we go to.
 
We differ. Even though there are straights who stare, snicker and comment about the 'clowns who dance around in assless chaps with dildos', I realize that the vast majority of Straights are not so inclined. Most straights are capable of seeing and reacting to a bigger picture, and I don't waste time trying to define straights by those few who can't..

I see the picture on the news. Don’t care much more beyond that to experience it in person. I’ve got family members that are gay that used to look forward to ‘Pride’. I think they are as turned off by it today as I am. But more power to ya!


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You are literally one of the angriest people on the whole forum.

You spend your posts mostly screaming and yelling at the top of your figurative voice at everything and anything you don’t like, mostly without any logical train of thought and then to top it off without a shred of self awareness, once again scream and yell at the top of your voice without any logical train of thought that it’s everyone else that’s bent out of shape.

So allow me to not take you seriously after years of that.

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About as "independent" as I am straight.

Depends on the topic, doesn’t it? I’d bet my positions on issues that matter like welfare and community reform are more liberal than most people on the board. But if it makes you feel better.......


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