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What 'gay pride' is, and how it is manifested in the gay pride march.

VanceMack said:
Your comments would be so much more impactful if your 'pride' parades didnt involve a bunch of clowns dancing around in assless chaps with dildoes glued to their foreheads. Sorry...there is pride...and then there is whatever the **** it is you think you are doing during your parades that indicate 'pride'. Its really hard to take any of you seriously after that.
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It's hard to take any straight person seriously because of this:
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VanceMack said:
I see the picture on the news. Don’t care much more beyond that to experience it in person. I’ve got family members that are gay that used to look forward to ‘Pride’. I think they are as turned off by it today as I am. But more power to ya!


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Ok then show them your post and see what they think of it then come back to us.
 
Dick Tornado said:
My wife works at a job were lots of men and women from the LGBTQ community work.

We sometimes go out with them after work to bars they frequent.

Other people will ask us if we know that those are "gay bars" and we say sure.

We also say we like to dance, like to drink every once in awhile and enjoy the company.

We don't see LGBTQ people we see friends, it is not a gay bar but a bar we go to.
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That was a very thoughtful and intelligent response, I cannot argue a word you have said.

But I can compliment you on the best damn name I've seen in a long time. Bravo, Dick Tornado, expect a friend request from me soon.
 
TheGoverness said:
About as "independent" as I am straight.
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I wonder, are there places we can send 'independents' like Vance, for conversion or reparative therapy, a sort of Exodus International for straights who fixate on homosexual imagery and acts? There is potentional for a lot profit to be made from setting up some camps and clinics.
 
1. I join other members and guests in thanking the OP for his heartfelt comments.

2. Many younger people are unaware of the horrific persecution of gays that was so common here in the Land of the Free.

a. Here in Los Angeles in the 1960s, the police would brag about the thousands of gay men they entrapped every year.
b. In New York City, the police would tell landlords to evict their gay tenants.

etc. etc. etc.

3. I have always admired Japan. Gay love has been a non-issue. People know that it exists, but no one says anything. Gays are happy to stay in the closet, and the government does not tell the police to hunt them down. Things are changing even there, I hear. There are now gay pride parades, and there is now a movement for gay marriage.
 
VanceMack said:
I see the picture on the news. Don’t care much more beyond that to experience it in person. I’ve got family members that are gay that used to look forward to ‘Pride’. I think they are as turned off by it today as I am. But more power to ya!


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I'm sure the gay community will be devastated...after all, this is all for your, and your family's, entertainment. Thankfully you've posted this, as your approval of Pride is all that matters here, so there will likely be less ass-less chaps and glued on cranial dildos going forward.
 
btthegreat said:
I wonder, are there places we can send 'independents' like Vance, for conversion or reparative therapy, a sort of Exodus International for straights who fixate on homosexual imagery and acts? There is potentional for a lot profit to be made from setting up some camps and clinics.
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:lamo

Oh, I like you today.
 
VanceMack said:
Your comments would be so much more impactful if your 'pride' parades didnt involve a bunch of clowns dancing around in assless chaps with dildoes glued to their foreheads. Sorry...there is pride...and then there is whatever the **** it is you think you are doing during your parades that indicate 'pride'. Its really hard to take any of you seriously after that.
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Don't forget the "Queer Beer", "Dykemarch", orgy pamphlets, and politicians handing out condoms.

In Toronto, you don't have to go anywhere near a march to choke on a heaping helping of LGBT pride. Here we have "Pride Month" and "Pride Week" whence you can't walk ten feet without the city (and eager merchants) shoving it down your throat on billboards, subway ads, news promos, storefronts--using your own tax dollars no less.

"We're homosexuals, transvestites, exhibitionists, bestialists, and worse. We detest your morals. We're proud of it. We're so proud of it, we're going to shove it down your throats every single year. We'll have grand parades, financed with your tax dollars, paralyzing traffic on your streets. Grand celebrations of sexual perversity and our enduring contempt for your moralizing. We'll call it good and wonderful. Just. Necessary. A celebration of love. We'll smear it into every nook and cranny in your city. If you object, we'll double and redouble our efforts. Screw you, you bigots, you fossils, you homophobes, you oppressors, you ignorant and hypocritical fools."

There you have a candid one paragraph summary of 'Pride'. In Toronto, at least.

Maybe in other cities it isn't as spectacular and obscene.
 
COTO said:
Don't forget the "Queer Beer", "Dykemarch", orgy pamphlets,
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Don't forget? I've never heard of any of that. What have you been doing.
 
COTO said:
Don't forget the "Queer Beer", "Dykemarch", orgy pamphlets, and politicians handing out condoms.

In Toronto, you don't have to go anywhere near a march to choke on a heaping helping of LGBT pride. Here we have "Pride Month" and "Pride Week" whence you can't walk ten feet without the city (and eager merchants) shoving it down your throat on billboards, subway ads, news promos, storefronts--using your own tax dollars no less.

"We're homosexuals, transvestites, exhibitionists, bestialists, and worse. We detest your morals. We're proud of it. We're so proud of it, we're going to shove it down your throats every single year. We'll have grand parades, financed with your tax dollars, paralyzing traffic on your streets. Grand celebrations of sexual perversity and our enduring contempt for your moralizing. We'll call it good and wonderful. Just. Necessary. A celebration of love. We'll smear it into every nook and cranny in your city. If you object, we'll double and redouble our efforts. Screw you, you bigots, you fossils, you homophobes, you oppressors, you ignorant and hypocritical fools."

There you have a candid one paragraph summary of 'Pride'. In Toronto, at least.

Maybe in other cities it isn't as spectacular and obscene.
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Meh...like I said earlier and the same thing I said about the straight pride parades. They are all stupid and if the participants or celebrants are clowns. Its a freak show...and thats a helluva way to celebrate your 'pride'. But as long as it makes them happy. It is kinda comical watching the idiots melt down because you dont glow and adore them...but theres nothing new there.
 
VanceMack said:
Meh...like I said earlier and the same thing I said about the straight pride parades. They are all stupid and if the participants or celebrants are clowns. Its a freak show...and thats a helluva way to celebrate your 'pride'. But as long as it makes them happy. It is kinda comical watching the idiots melt down because you dont glow and adore them...but theres nothing new there.
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The false equivalence of minority empowerment and majority bigotry inherently serves bigotry.
 
Sexual freedom certainly represents the theme some floats and participants no doubt.

But if you watch for more, you might have paid attention to the character of the others that reflected the deaths of thousands of our brothers, friends and lovers to the AIDS epidemic in the eighties and ninties. You might pay attention to the character of the others like the queer first responders, who marched as firemen, police, and EMTs, or the queer veterans marching in their army, marine and navy uniforms or the gay and lesbian teachers marching with their supportive colleagues.

Maybe you should watch for the queer fathers and mothers marching with their babies and children by their sides, or the same sex married couples marching together hand in hand holding up their hands with those wedding bands, and certificates or our seniors advocating for non-discriminatory treatment in nursing homes, hospitals and mortuaries.

Maybe you should pay attention to those who marched for the local homeless youth shelter serving kids living on the streets thrown out by their families, or you could note the float on suicide prevention with the families of loved ones touched by that tragedy , or another reflecting the 'it gets better' anti bullying campaign.

People see what they expected to see at these marches, and they remembered what they wanted to remember, and took away what they wanted to take away.
 
Jetboogieman said:
You are literally one of the angriest people on the whole forum.

You spend your posts mostly screaming and yelling at the top of your figurative voice at everything and anything you don’t like, mostly without any logical train of thought and then to top it off without a shred of self awareness, once again scream and yell at the top of your voice without any logical train of thought that it’s everyone else that’s bent out of shape.

So allow me to not take you seriously after years of that.
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:lamo

I call your stupidity out and you melt down and call it anger. You are literally one of the most worthless posters on this forum from ALL sides. So...I guess we dont labor under any illusions about how we view each other...right?
 
ecofarm said:
The false equivalence of minority empowerment and majority bigotry inherently serves bigotry.
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Idiocy, bigotry, and racism are not found solely in the majority. Anyone that thinks otherwise is a ****ing moron.
 
AProudLefty said:
I find it telling that you chose to focus on the assless chaps and dildos instead of really discussing the topic. :lamo
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Uh-huh...

Because if Obama came to the Presidential podium in assless chaps you would be focusing on his Universal Health Care message... right?
 
VanceMack said:
I guess we dont labor under any illusions about how we view each other...right?
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Well that's true. The Dunning-Kruger effect is how we view each other. One with low IQ can view himself with superior intelligence and views others as having low IQ.
It applies sometimes to the high IQ individuals. They sometimes assume others understand what they're talking about.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Uh-huh...

Because if Obama came to the Presidential podium in assless chaps you would be focusing on his Universal Health Care message... right?
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Actually Michelle would be blocking the view staring at it. :)
 
VanceMack said:
Idiocy, bigotry, and racism are not found solely in the majority. Anyone that thinks otherwise is a ****ing moron.
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Strawman.


The false equivalence of minority empowerment and majority bigotry serves bigotry. Period.
 
AProudLefty said:
It applies sometimes to high IQ individuals. They sometimes assume others understand what they're talking about.
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I was under that very impression until I learned about the imposter effect corollary of the Dunning Kruger Effect. I still don't think that I am intelligent.
 
ecofarm said:
Don't forget? I've never heard of any of that. What have you been doing.
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I want to see one of those pamphlets because I was not aware that they existed.

I usually like Canadians but COTO seems very unCanuk like. Maybe someone put something in his Tim's coffee.
 
A Question about Revalorization

Please note: this question is not about gay pride specifically; it encompasses pride in all its forms: national pride, city pride, team pride, self pride, and so on.

The question is: When did pride become a virtue?

It was, for a couple thousand years, considered a vice -- the chief sin among the Seven Deadly Sins, and before that the chief crime in Ancient Greek culture. Remember Oedipus? and hubris? In both pagan and Christian cultures "pride goeth before a fall."

When did pride stop being a vice and become a virtue?
 
Lisa said:
I want to see one of those pamphlets because I was not aware that they existed.

I usually like Canadians but COTO seems very unCanuk like. Maybe someone put something in his Tim's coffee.
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I don't think we need to get nationalist about it. Canada has homophobes. Everywhere does. They hide, they seek validation mostly on the internet. Some have cults, especially package bigotry deals.

Canada makes a great hat but it's not perfect.
 
ecofarm said:
I don't think we need to get nationalist about it. Canada has homophobes. Everywhere does. They hide, they seek validation mostly on the internet. Some have cults, especially package bigotry deals.

Canada makes a great hat but it's not perfect.
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I've never met a Canada that was so hateful, but maybe those types don't often come to the US.
 
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