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Transgender Victoria Secret Model - Breaking Down Barriers

Rich2018 said:
No it's a valid question.

Your response is the denial. You view sex/gender as self evident, I'm telling you it's not.


Your blinkered response is at the heart of the problems trans-gender people are suffering.
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Sex is self evident. Every single person is one of the two and it cannot be changed.

2+2=4

That cannot be changed.

Anyone who claims that they are a different sex is delusional.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Sex is self evident....
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In your mind perhaps


Like the existence of god is self evident to a Christian, despite a lack of evidence


...every single person is one of the two and it cannot be changed....
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Why TWO ?

Why can't it be changed? What is the criteria for sex/gender in your mind?



...2+2=4

That cannot be changed.

Anyone who claims that they are a different sex is delusional.
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This is not mathematics

Why are they delusional? What about sex/gender in your mind means it can't be changed?

What makes a male a male ?
 
Rich2018 said:
In your mind perhaps


Like the existence of god is self evident to a Christian, despite a lack of evidence




Why TWO ?

Why can't it be changed? What is the criteria for sex/gender in your mind?






This is not mathematics

Why are they delusional? What about sex/gender in your mind means it can't be changed?

What makes a male a male ?
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Why two? Because there’s only two. Despite your desperate obfuscation
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Sex is self evident. Every single person is one of the two and it cannot be changed.

2+2=4

That cannot be changed.

Anyone who claims that they are different sex is delusional.
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You should be praying for knowledge and logic. 20 Hail Marys and Glory Bes don't make the cut.

You are looking at physical external gender but our desires and impulses are control by our psychological gender that cannot be seen outside of an MRI. It is this mind-body incongruency that causes a person to be transgendered. Since the gender of the mind is fixed before birth medical science changes the body as much as possible to align with the gender of the brain for the well being of the patient.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Why two? Because there’s only two. Despite your desperate obfuscation
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There are three genders because intersexxed people have always existed.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Why two? Because there’s only two. Despite your desperate obfuscation
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Not according to Germany:


"Germany's top court has ruled that there must be the option of registering a gender that is neither male nor female on birth certificates.

It would make Germany the first European country to allow parents to designate their intersex offspring as a third gender...."


German parents can register babies as third gender, court rules - BBC News


Who is desperately clinging to straws ?
 
Lisa said:
There are three genders because intersexxed people have always existed.
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Intersex people are not a seperate sex. Every single intersected person falls into one of the two
 
Rich2018 said:
Not according to Germany:


"Germany's top court has ruled that there must be the option of registering a gender that is neither male nor female on birth certificates.

It would make Germany the first European country to allow parents to designate their intersex offspring as a third gender...."


German parents can register babies as third gender, court rules - BBC News


Who is desperately clinging to straws ?
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A political decision made by leftists. Who’s surprised?
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Intersex people are not a seperate sex. Every single intersected person falls into one of the two
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What gender is someone who is XXY or YYX? What makes you an expert on the subject?
 
Lisa said:
What gender is someone who is XXY or YYX? What makes you an expert on the subject?
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Their sex is male because of a Y chromosome.

Both these conditions are universally recognized as being defects present in men.
 
Lisa said:
Would you rather that decision be made by a priest or bishop?
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Better that then some left wing extremist who’s hijacked a regulatory body
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Their sex is male because of a Y chromosome.

Both these conditions are universally recognized as being defects present in men.
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That is to be decided by the child as they mature and not the parents or someone else with an agenda. Is that a problem for you that not everyone fits into your binary paradigm?
 
EMNofSeattle said:
Better that then some left-wing extremist who’s hijacked a regulatory body
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Priests and bishops spend their whole like convincing people of religious delusions for their own profit and self-aggrandizement. Religion should be banned for people under 18 until they are old enough to make their own decision about beliving in myths as fact.

Who are these regulatory hijacking left-wing extremists?
 
Lisa said:
That is to be decided by the child as they mature and not the parents or someone else with an agenda. Is that a problem for you that not everyone fits into your binary paradigm?
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It’s certainly a problem when the left wants the government to tear down the institutions of society and replace them with a non-objective delusion.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
It’s certainly a problem when the left wants the government to tear down the institutions of society and replace them with a non-objective delusion.
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What parts of society are you convinced that the left wants the government to tear down?

How is medical science not objective?
 
Lisa said:
You should be praying for knowledge and logic. 20 Hail Marys and Glory Bes don't make the cut.

You are looking at physical external gender but our desires and impulses are control by our psychological gender that cannot be seen outside of an MRI. It is this mind-body incongruency that causes a person to be transgendered. Since the gender of the mind is fixed before birth medical science changes the body as much as possible to align with the gender of the brain for the well being of the patient.
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What you refer to as "desires and impulses" and "gender of the brain" is a mental disorder. AND their body that doesn't match their mind is not a physical disorder.
 
dixon01767 said:
How 20th century. There are many more genders.

•non-binary,
•genderqueer,
•gender fluid,
•bigender,
•trigender,
•pangender,
•agender,
•nongendered,
•genderless,
•genderfree, or
•neutrois
sexuality - How many genders are there? - Psychology & Neuroscience Stack Exchange

You can pick and choose and change at will. Be whatever you want to be.
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Non-binary and gender fluid are different words for the same idea. The other describes the same idea of a fluid gender identity or expression.

Neutrois is an identity under the nonbinary and transgender umbrellas. Generally speaking, neutrois is a transsexual identity,
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Transgender is not a gender of its own but a phase of transition between male and female or female and male.
 
Lisa said:
Non-binary and gender fluid are different words for the same idea.
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Don't try to tell that to those who identify as Non-binary and gender fluid.

Lisa said:
Transgender is not a gender of its own but a phase of transition between male and female or female and male.
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Don't try and tell that to the transgendered who choose not to transition.
 
EMNofSeattle said:
A political decision made by leftists. Who’s surprised?
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Germany is run by "leftists" ?

Since when ?


You were proven wrong with your narrow minded assertion that there's only two genders.

What a surprise that you won't admit it and call those that do, "leftists"

Why not "rightists" or "centrists" - because it undermines your world view that a rightist government, such as the one in Germany right now, could adopt such an enlightened law.


Out of interest do you call all legislatures who pass laws you don't agree with as "leftist" ?
Are they also homosexual and Atheist ?

Are there any legislatures you agree with ?
 
Rich2018 said:
Germany is run by "leftists" ?

Since when ?


You were proven wrong with your narrow minded assertion that there's only two genders.

What a surprise that you won't admit it and call those that do, "leftists"

Why not "rightists" or "centrists" - because it undermines your world view that a rightist government, such as the one in Germany right now, could adopt such an enlightened law.


Out of interest do you call all legislatures who pass laws you don't agree with as "leftist" ?
Are they also homosexual and Atheist ?

Are there any legislatures you agree with ?
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EMN said in the past that he opposes democratic governments and would prefer a theocracy or a monarchy, so all representative governments are leftist. It would seem that the Magna Carta is a radical idea in his eyes.
 
Lisa said:
EMN said in the past that he opposes democratic governments and would prefer a theocracy or a monarchy, so all representative governments are leftist. It would seem that the Magna Carta is a radical idea in his eyes.
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I studied politics at college for one year - there was a political writer called Hans Eysenck...he drew a two dimensional graph of power (x Axis) and wealth (y Axis).

When political power is focused in on man, that is ultimate right wing politics
When political power is spread equally amongst every person, that is ultimate left wing politics

(same for wealth)

Now the ultimate expressions can't exist: A dictator needs to delegate amongst his lieutenants and pure democracy is too impractical to work for a large village let alone a country.


So I suppose we're all political left wingers...more to the left (hopefully) than some perhaps.
 
By sequencing the DNA and microbiome of the 5,700-year-old saliva of a young hunter-gatherer, obtained from a small wad of birch pitch that she chewed on and spat out, it was discovered that the young lady was lactose intolerant, had severe periodontal disease, and had recently eaten hazelnuts and part of a mallard duck. Oh, and was female, if we can still say that.

Surely there must be other biological effluvia that can yield interesting trivia. Now, of course, it could be misleading if not completely unacceptable. Genetics are (is?) no longer determinative. DNA don't count. Chewing gum from Victoria Secret's transgender model must be disposed of securely, like bank statements.

That periodontal disease, though, that might not have been so trivial.
 
jimmww said:
By sequencing the DNA and microbiome of the 5,700-year-old saliva of a young hunter-gatherer, obtained from a small wad of birch pitch that she chewed on and spat out, it was discovered that the young lady was lactose intolerant, had severe periodontal disease, and had recently eaten hazelnuts and part of a mallard duck. Oh, and was female, if we can still say that.

Surely there must be other biological effluvia that can yield interesting trivia. Now, of course, it could be misleading if not completely unacceptable. Genetics are (is?) no longer determinative. DNA don't count. Chewing gum from Victoria Secret's transgender model must be disposed of securely, like bank statements.

That periodontal disease, though, that might not have been so trivial.
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Our DNA only creates or o biological gender but it doesn't always determine a person's psychological gender identity. That fact is why transgender people exist because it is a condition when their psychological gendered sense of self is incongruent with their biological gender. Medical science cannot change their gender identity so they change their body to match their gender identity.

Who is the noob?
 
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