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Transgender Victoria Secret Model - Breaking Down Barriers

Dragonfly

Dragonfly

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Victoria's Secret reportedly hires first transgender model - INSIDER

Valentina Sampaio has reportedly become Victoria's Secret's first openly transgender model.
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Maybe some people will start to rethink their preconceived notions about "transgender" after seeing this?

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Dragonfly said:
...Maybe some people will start to rethink their preconceived notions about "transgender" after seeing this?...
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And maybe self-righteous superficiality will start to think after reading this.
Hope is hilarious.
 
Good for her.
 
Its ****ing 2019. The fact that this is JUST NOW happening is not a cause for celebration its ****ing sad, we are so ****ing regressive as a species, a true disgrace to the Animal Kingdom.
 
This thread is worthless without *before pics.
 
Dragonfly said:
Not sure what you mean by that?
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The simplest thing DNA can tell you is whether someone is male or female. It doesn't matter what hormones you take or surgeries you subject yourself to you're still male or female.
 
hanger4 said:
The simplest thing DNA can tell you is whether someone is male or female. It doesn't matter what hormones you take or surgeries you subject yourself to you're still male or female.
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Do you DNA test many people? Personally, I just deal with them without any tests...
 
Redress said:
Do you DNA test many people? Personally, I just deal with them without any tests...
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That wasn't the point, what people feel like doesn't change their biological designation.
 
hanger4 said:
The simplest thing DNA can tell you is whether someone is male or female. It doesn't matter what hormones you take or surgeries you subject yourself to you're still male or female.
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hanger4 said:
That wasn't the point, what people feel like doesn't change their biological designation.
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So what exactly is your point?
 
hanger4 said:
You posted the point;

what people feel like doesn't change their biological designation.
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So to you, she's just a guy?


I'm sorry, but I am struggling to understand what you're saying.
 
hanger4 said:
You posted the point;

what people feel like doesn't change their biological designation.
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But likewise, their DNA does not impact their societal designation. If one is accepted and treated as a woman in public life then in practical terms DNA matters very little.
 
hanger4 said:
That wasn't the point, what people feel like doesn't change their biological designation.
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If you do not test them, then how are their chromosomes in any way relevant to you? Instead of worrying about other people's chromosomes, maybe you should worry about yourself.
 
Dragonfly said:
So to you, she's just a guy?


I'm sorry, but I am struggling to understand what you're saying.
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Yes he's male and will always be male regardless of the hormones he takes or surgeries he has.
 
hanger4 said:
You posted the point;

what people feel like doesn't change their biological designation.
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Biology does not designate anything. The causes of transgenderism are biological.
 
Irredentist said:
But likewise, their DNA does not impact their societal designation. If one is accepted and treated as a woman in public life then in practical terms DNA matters very little.
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It very much matters in the field of athletics.
 
hanger4 said:
It very much matters in the field of athletics.
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Possibly, but that's only one, very specific circumstance, one that does not apply to the vast majority of transgender people. In a broader sense DNA is not the mechanism humans use to determine each others gender in day to day interaction.
 
Redress said:
If you do not test them, then how are their chromosomes in any way relevant to you? Instead of worrying about other people's chromosomes, maybe you should worry about yourself.
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DNA is not a chromosome.

It matters a lot in the field of sports and other fields where physical standards requirements are different for males and females.
 
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