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The Importance of Men and Fathers

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Regardless of what society says men play an important role society. We are a much needed and valued resource than
what is put out there today. There is nothing wrong with being a man and the most important part a man can be is a father.
The listed benefits of having a father are well documented. Given that yesterday was Fathers Day i thought I would list the benefits
of father.

Kids are less likely to do drugs.
They are more likely to graduate high school and go to college.
they are less likely to get pregnant.

Studies show children with involved fathers, stepdads or father figures are less likely to get in trouble with the law, tend to do better in school and are more likely to hold a job.

Kids without attentive fathers, Pruett said, are three times as likely to find themselves in the juvenile justice system before the age of 18 compared to those with involved fathers.
Children with involved fathers are more likely to delay sexual activity, which means lower cases of teenage pregnancy, said Pruett.

A 2016 article in Sex Roles found U.S. teenagers with supportive fathers have greater optimism and self-efficacy, which translates to better school achievement. The results occurred even for fathers with little education and limited English. Daughters, in particular, performed better in math. Sons did better in language.

Children with involved fathers are better problem solvers and better deal with frustration, Pruett said.

University of Michigan psychology professor Brenda Volling adds men are more likely to engage in "rough and tumble" play with children, which theory suggests helps kids regulate their emotions.

Do not let this society tell us that we are not needed or that we do not play a major role.
we play a huge roll in the lives of people that mean the most to us.
 
ludin said:
Regardless of what society says men play an important role society. We are a much needed and valued resource than
what is put out there today. There is nothing wrong with being a man and the most important part a man can be is a father.
The listed benefits of having a father are well documented. Given that yesterday was Fathers Day i thought I would list the benefits
of father.

Kids are less likely to do drugs.
They are more likely to graduate high school and go to college.
they are less likely to get pregnant.

Studies show children with involved fathers, stepdads or father figures are less likely to get in trouble with the law, tend to do better in school and are more likely to hold a job.

Kids without attentive fathers, Pruett said, are three times as likely to find themselves in the juvenile justice system before the age of 18 compared to those with involved fathers.
Children with involved fathers are more likely to delay sexual activity, which means lower cases of teenage pregnancy, said Pruett.

A 2016 article in Sex Roles found U.S. teenagers with supportive fathers have greater optimism and self-efficacy, which translates to better school achievement. The results occurred even for fathers with little education and limited English. Daughters, in particular, performed better in math. Sons did better in language.

Children with involved fathers are better problem solvers and better deal with frustration, Pruett said.

University of Michigan psychology professor Brenda Volling adds men are more likely to engage in "rough and tumble" play with children, which theory suggests helps kids regulate their emotions.

Do not let this society tell us that we are not needed or that we do not play a major role.
we play a huge roll in the lives of people that mean the most to us.
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Who says we're not important? My kids showed me how important I am to them yesterday...and everyday.
 
ludin said:
Regardless of what society says men play an important role society. We are a much needed and valued resource than
what is put out there today. There is nothing wrong with being a man and the most important part a man can be is a father.
The listed benefits of having a father are well documented. Given that yesterday was Fathers Day i thought I would list the benefits
of father.

Kids are less likely to do drugs.
They are more likely to graduate high school and go to college.
they are less likely to get pregnant.

Studies show children with involved fathers, stepdads or father figures are less likely to get in trouble with the law, tend to do better in school and are more likely to hold a job.

Kids without attentive fathers, Pruett said, are three times as likely to find themselves in the juvenile justice system before the age of 18 compared to those with involved fathers.
Children with involved fathers are more likely to delay sexual activity, which means lower cases of teenage pregnancy, said Pruett.

A 2016 article in Sex Roles found U.S. teenagers with supportive fathers have greater optimism and self-efficacy, which translates to better school achievement. The results occurred even for fathers with little education and limited English. Daughters, in particular, performed better in math. Sons did better in language.

Children with involved fathers are better problem solvers and better deal with frustration, Pruett said.

University of Michigan psychology professor Brenda Volling adds men are more likely to engage in "rough and tumble" play with children, which theory suggests helps kids regulate their emotions.

Do not let this society tell us that we are not needed or that we do not play a major role.
we play a huge roll in the lives of people that mean the most to us.
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Yes. I am not sure what part of society is saying men are not important. I have not been getting that message.

My family put on a huge Father's Day brunch party for me yesterday. My parents and the in-laws and lots of friends and relatives were there. It was a lot of fun!
 
Hanky said:
Who says we're not important? My kids showed me how important I am to them yesterday...and everyday.
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I am the dad of a 16 year old boy. At that age, they try not to let on how important you are to them. They are too busy trying to establish an identity and a sense of independence. They may not come out and tell you all the time how important you are too often. But you are. And they know it too. Just don't expect them to come out and say it.
 
ataraxia said:
Yes. I am not sure what part of society is saying men are not important. I have not been getting that message.

My family put on a huge Father's Day brunch party for me yesterday. My parents and the in-laws and lots of friends and relatives were there. It was a lot of fun!
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I guess you guys haven't been reading too many of the anti-men things that have been going around forever.
 
ludin said:
Regardless of what society says men play an important role society. We are a much needed and valued resource than
what is put out there today. There is nothing wrong with being a man and the most important part a man can be is a father.
The listed benefits of having a father are well documented. Given that yesterday was Fathers Day i thought I would list the benefits
of father.

Kids are less likely to do drugs.
They are more likely to graduate high school and go to college.
they are less likely to get pregnant.

Studies show children with involved fathers, stepdads or father figures are less likely to get in trouble with the law, tend to do better in school and are more likely to hold a job.

Kids without attentive fathers, Pruett said, are three times as likely to find themselves in the juvenile justice system before the age of 18 compared to those with involved fathers.
Children with involved fathers are more likely to delay sexual activity, which means lower cases of teenage pregnancy, said Pruett.

A 2016 article in Sex Roles found U.S. teenagers with supportive fathers have greater optimism and self-efficacy, which translates to better school achievement. The results occurred even for fathers with little education and limited English. Daughters, in particular, performed better in math. Sons did better in language.

Children with involved fathers are better problem solvers and better deal with frustration, Pruett said.

University of Michigan psychology professor Brenda Volling adds men are more likely to engage in "rough and tumble" play with children, which theory suggests helps kids regulate their emotions.

Do not let this society tell us that we are not needed or that we do not play a major role.
we play a huge roll in the lives of people that mean the most to us.
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You sound threatened. Why don't you smile more? ;)
 
ludin said:
Regardless of what society says men play an important role society. We are a much needed and valued resource than
what is put out there today. There is nothing wrong with being a man and the most important part a man can be is a father.
The listed benefits of having a father are well documented. Given that yesterday was Fathers Day i thought I would list the benefits
of father.

Kids are less likely to do drugs.
They are more likely to graduate high school and go to college.
they are less likely to get pregnant.

Studies show children with involved fathers, stepdads or father figures are less likely to get in trouble with the law, tend to do better in school and are more likely to hold a job.

Kids without attentive fathers, Pruett said, are three times as likely to find themselves in the juvenile justice system before the age of 18 compared to those with involved fathers.
Children with involved fathers are more likely to delay sexual activity, which means lower cases of teenage pregnancy, said Pruett.

A 2016 article in Sex Roles found U.S. teenagers with supportive fathers have greater optimism and self-efficacy, which translates to better school achievement. The results occurred even for fathers with little education and limited English. Daughters, in particular, performed better in math. Sons did better in language.

Children with involved fathers are better problem solvers and better deal with frustration, Pruett said.

University of Michigan psychology professor Brenda Volling adds men are more likely to engage in "rough and tumble" play with children, which theory suggests helps kids regulate their emotions.

Do not let this society tell us that we are not needed or that we do not play a major role.
we play a huge roll in the lives of people that mean the most to us.
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Absolute nonsense, hysterical nonsense.
 
ludin said:
I guess you guys haven't been reading too many of the anti-men things that have been going around forever.
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Its the internet, have you read any of the pro-men and anti-women stuff? There's lots on this site in fact. Why don't you give us an example of society demonizing fathers.

A lot of people have problems with their fathers, is that society's fault or that particular fathers'?
 
ludin said:
I guess you guys haven't been reading too many of the anti-men things that have been going around forever.
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And for every one of those there are more SDETs.
 
ludin said:
Regardless of what society says men play an important role society. We are a much needed and valued resource than
what is put out there today. There is nothing wrong with being a man and the most important part a man can be is a father.
The listed benefits of having a father are well documented. Given that yesterday was Fathers Day i thought I would list the benefits
of father.

Kids are less likely to do drugs.
They are more likely to graduate high school and go to college.
they are less likely to get pregnant.

Studies show children with involved fathers, stepdads or father figures are less likely to get in trouble with the law, tend to do better in school and are more likely to hold a job.

Kids without attentive fathers, Pruett said, are three times as likely to find themselves in the juvenile justice system before the age of 18 compared to those with involved fathers.
Children with involved fathers are more likely to delay sexual activity, which means lower cases of teenage pregnancy, said Pruett.

A 2016 article in Sex Roles found U.S. teenagers with supportive fathers have greater optimism and self-efficacy, which translates to better school achievement. The results occurred even for fathers with little education and limited English. Daughters, in particular, performed better in math. Sons did better in language.

Children with involved fathers are better problem solvers and better deal with frustration, Pruett said.

University of Michigan psychology professor Brenda Volling adds men are more likely to engage in "rough and tumble" play with children, which theory suggests helps kids regulate their emotions.

Do not let this society tell us that we are not needed or that we do not play a major role.
we play a huge roll in the lives of people that mean the most to us.
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Ludin, I find this post depressing. Of course fathers are important, and I don't feel like society is telling us that we're not. Where is this coming from?

If you have kids, I hope you had a happy Fathers Day. I had a great day with my kid...he's six, and we played basketball in the driveway and he told me it was a fun day. That's all that matters to me, and I don't need anything else to validate my importance as a father.
 
ludin said:
I guess you guys haven't been reading too many of the anti-men things that have been going around forever.
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Meh...I already know I'm not perfect, and I have to keep trying to be better...I don't find that threatening.
 
ludin said:
Regardless of what society says men play an important role society. We are a much needed and valued resource than
what is put out there today. There is nothing wrong with being a man and the most important part a man can be is a father.
The listed benefits of having a father are well documented. Given that yesterday was Fathers Day i thought I would list the benefits
of father.

Kids are less likely to do drugs.
They are more likely to graduate high school and go to college.
they are less likely to get pregnant.

Studies show children with involved fathers, stepdads or father figures are less likely to get in trouble with the law, tend to do better in school and are more likely to hold a job.

Kids without attentive fathers, Pruett said, are three times as likely to find themselves in the juvenile justice system before the age of 18 compared to those with involved fathers.
Children with involved fathers are more likely to delay sexual activity, which means lower cases of teenage pregnancy, said Pruett.

A 2016 article in Sex Roles found U.S. teenagers with supportive fathers have greater optimism and self-efficacy, which translates to better school achievement. The results occurred even for fathers with little education and limited English. Daughters, in particular, performed better in math. Sons did better in language.

Children with involved fathers are better problem solvers and better deal with frustration, Pruett said.

University of Michigan psychology professor Brenda Volling adds men are more likely to engage in "rough and tumble" play with children, which theory suggests helps kids regulate their emotions.

Do not let this society tell us that we are not needed or that we do not play a major role.
we play a huge roll in the lives of people that mean the most to us.
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So, if one father is great, having a household that the child has two fathers is even better, right? A pair of gay men can adopt, right??
 
ludin said:
Regardless of what society says men play an important role society. We are a much needed and valued resource than
what is put out there today. There is nothing wrong with being a man and the most important part a man can be is a father.
The listed benefits of having a father are well documented. Given that yesterday was Fathers Day i thought I would list the benefits
of father.

Kids are less likely to do drugs.
They are more likely to graduate high school and go to college.
they are less likely to get pregnant.

Studies show children with involved fathers, stepdads or father figures are less likely to get in trouble with the law, tend to do better in school and are more likely to hold a job.

Kids without attentive fathers, Pruett said, are three times as likely to find themselves in the juvenile justice system before the age of 18 compared to those with involved fathers.
Children with involved fathers are more likely to delay sexual activity, which means lower cases of teenage pregnancy, said Pruett.

A 2016 article in Sex Roles found U.S. teenagers with supportive fathers have greater optimism and self-efficacy, which translates to better school achievement. The results occurred even for fathers with little education and limited English. Daughters, in particular, performed better in math. Sons did better in language.

Children with involved fathers are better problem solvers and better deal with frustration, Pruett said.

University of Michigan psychology professor Brenda Volling adds men are more likely to engage in "rough and tumble" play with children, which theory suggests helps kids regulate their emotions.

Do not let this society tell us that we are not needed or that we do not play a major role.
we play a huge roll in the lives of people that mean the most to us.
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Nice post on an important topic. I see it’s getting the expected reception, unfortunately.
 
ludin said:
Studies show children with involved fathers, stepdads or father figures...
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These are the key words right here. It doesn't matter if that father figure is a member of their household or not. It also doesn't matter if that person follows the stereotypical "father roles". A good father figure can be a stay at home dad. A nurturing man. One who like pink and is willing to have tea parties with his kids, boys or girls. These are all great dad's. Involved is the most important thing.

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Moon said:
Nice post on an important topic. I see it’s getting the expected reception, unfortunately.
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yes it is, but i kinda figured it would with this crowd.
 
ludin said:
I guess you guys haven't been reading too many of the anti-men things that have been going around forever.
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add me to the list of people that hadnt heard that men arent valued in society anymore.

If men dont remain in their kids' lives whose fault is that?

They have the right to joint custody, unless there are criminal or other such reasons.

Today, the laws apply equally to men and women...if the laws 'are not applied equally', that's the fault of judges...who are still mostly males.

Name some 'anti-male' thing that isnt something wrong or negative that men actually do? I mean, is this stuff being invented?
 
Lursa said:
add me to the list of people that hadnt heard that men arent valued in society anymore.

If men dont remain in their kids' lives whose fault is that?

They have the right to joint custody, unless there are criminal or other such reasons.

Today, the laws apply equally to men and women...if the laws 'are not applied equally', that's the fault of judges...who are still mostly males.

Name some 'anti-male' thing that isnt something wrong or negative that men actually do? I mean, is this stuff being invented?
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There also is the issue of laws being unequally applied.
 
who the hell is saying involved fathers are unimportant?
 
maquiscat said:
These are the key words right here. It doesn't matter if that father figure is a member of their household or not. It also doesn't matter if that person follows the stereotypical "father roles". A good father figure can be a stay at home dad. A nurturing man. One who like pink and is willing to have tea parties with his kids, boys or girls. These are all great dad's. Involved is the most important thing.

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You're overlooking an important point. Of course feminine men can still be good fathers, but being a good father also entails helping your son through his natural biological development. When your 16 year old starts farting, scratching his balls, playing contact sports because he wants to express himself physically, or any other masculine traits, a good father needs to be there to relate to his behaviour. To let him know there's nothing wrong with him or the particular urges he feels.

If, on the other hand, the feminine father was against his son's masculine behaviour, or at least constantly said he finds it repulsive, that would make him a terrible father.
 
Crusader13 said:
You're overlooking an important point. Of course feminine men can still be good fathers, but being a good father also entails helping your son through his natural biological development. When your 16 year old starts farting, scratching his balls, playing contact sports because he wants to express himself physically, or any other masculine traits, a good father needs to be there to relate to his behaviour. To let him know there's nothing wrong with him or the particular urges he feels.

If, on the other hand, the feminine father was against his son's masculine behaviour, or at least constantly said he finds it repulsive, that would make him a terrible father.
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That makes absolutely no sense what so ever.
 
ludin said:
Regardless of what society says men play an important role society.
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On what goddamned planet do you live where society says otherwise, because it’s not this one.
 
RAMOSS said:
That makes absolutely no sense what so ever.
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Apparently feminine men don’t fart. (Status of women farting as yet undetermined)
 
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