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What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

Lisa said:
Secularism isn't being taught in science class, despite your attempt to create a strawman. Science teachers teach scientific facts and not philosophy.

Where are these facts of creationism that you continually refer to? Please post them.
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There are no facts of creationism.
 
marke said:
Atheistic science teacher to students: "We don't teach religion in this class and we don't talk about religious mythology based upon blind faith in an old shepherd's book of fiction. We are here to learn about science, not mythology. We know God did not create the universe because science proves a big bang didit. That is our foundation and we will build upon it in this class."
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More fantasy writing. You do know that the vast majority of science teachers are christian or from other faiths? They are hired to teach science, not religion. How difficult is that to understand.
 
Peter King said:
More fantasy writing. You do know that the vast majority of science teachers are christian or from other faiths? They are hired to teach science, not religion. How difficult is that to understand.
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What the problem is? You and I agree.
 
marke said:
Reluctant Christian science teacher to his public school students: "I would like to tell you that I think there is a possibility God was involved in the origin of life and matter but the state has decided that mentioning such a possibility violates the separation of church and state that atheists have worked so hard to establish. Therefore, when it comes to science we will teach that life began with a series of unexplainable accidental chemical arrangements which just happened to form millions of exact amino acid combinations to produce life, nourishment, and reproduction in the first life form."
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Science teachers are to keep their religious views out of the class and teach the empirical facts of the matter. A teacher who is an atheist also cannot teach their beliefs in a public school science class. I was not aware that abiogenesis was taught in evolution because they are two different subjects. The theory of evolution only concerns itself with how life evolved but now when it was created.

The separation of church and state protects all religious beliefs equally, but you seek a theory of your sects ultra-conservative teachings, which would trample the religious and secular rights of everyone else in the process and would the creation of country akin to a Christian ISIL.
 
Lisa said:
Science teachers are to keep their religious views out of the class and teach the empirical facts of the matter. A teacher who is an atheist also cannot teach their beliefs in a public school science class. I was not aware that abiogenesis was taught in evolution because they are two different subjects. The theory of evolution only concerns itself with how life evolved but now when it was created.

The separation of church and state protects all religious beliefs equally, but you seek a theory of your sects ultra-conservative teachings, which would trample the religious and secular rights of everyone else in the process and would the creation of country akin to a Christian ISIL.
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marke forgot to name the teacher and post a link to the quote.
 
Lisa said:
Science teachers are to keep their religious views out of the class and teach the empirical facts of the matter. A teacher who is an atheist also cannot teach their beliefs in a public school science class. I was not aware that abiogenesis was taught in evolution because they are two different subjects. The theory of evolution only concerns itself with how life evolved but now when it was created.

The separation of church and state protects all religious beliefs equally, but you seek a theory of your sects ultra-conservative teachings, which would trample the religious and secular rights of everyone else in the process and would the creation of country akin to a Christian ISIL.
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Newly hired science teacher to atheist principal: "What about evolution? Should I teach evolution as fact or should I tell students it, like creation, is a theory which has not been proven to be fact?"

Principal: "You will be teaching from the selected and approved textbook which points out that evolution is a fact and creation is a lie, so I expect you to follow the curriculum."
 
marke said:
Newly hired science teacher to atheist principal: "What about evolution? Should I teach evolution as fact or should I tell students it, like creation, is a theory which has not been proven to be fact?"

Principal: "You will be teaching from the selected and approved textbook which points out that evolution is a fact and creation is a lie, so I expect you to follow the curriculum."
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This line of BS that "Its just a theory" is so obvious that Scientific American wrote an essay to address it.

"Just a Theory": 7 Misused Science Words - Scientific American

The curriculum in public schools is not set by the principle of the school. Iit is determined by the state board of education. Do you feel persecuted by atheists and us humanists?
 
zyzygy said:
marke forgot to name the teacher and post a link to the quote.
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Maybe he'll claim that his god inspired it and as such he has no quote to reference.
 
Lisa said:
Science teachers are to keep their religious views out of the class and teach the empirical facts of the matter. A teacher who is an atheist also cannot teach their beliefs in a public school science class. I was not aware that abiogenesis was taught in evolution because they are two different subjects. The theory of evolution only concerns itself with how life evolved but now when it was created.

The separation of church and state protects all religious beliefs equally, but you seek a theory of your sects ultra-conservative teachings, which would trample the religious and secular rights of everyone else in the process and would the creation of country akin to a Christian ISIL.
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Revered college evolution professor from yesteryear: Class, today we are going to examine one of the most remarkable finds ever uncovered - The Piltdown Man missing link fossil. Christians had mocked evolution for decades but they were finally forced to admit evolution is true after this important fossil find was reported. We now have proof evolution was real and the Christians must hang their heads in shame for refusing to admit the scientific facts.
 
Lisa said:
This line of BS that "Its just a theory" is so obvious that Scientific American wrote an essay to address it.

"Just a Theory": 7 Misused Science Words - Scientific American

The curriculum in public schools is not set by the principle of the school. Iit is determined by the state board of education. Do you feel persecuted by atheists and us humanists?
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You don't want to teach truth if truth points to God but you are wrong for claiming lying evolution assumptions are true.
 
marke said:
Revered college evolution professor from yesteryear: Class, today we are going to examine one of the most remarkable finds ever uncovered - The Piltdown Man missing link fossil. Christians had mocked evolution for decades but they were finally forced to admit evolution is true after this important fossil find was reported. We now have proof evolution was real and the Christians must hang their heads in shame for refusing to admit the scientific facts.
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There are no evolution professors, just as there are no heliocentric cosmology professors.

They would discuss the Piltdown man without your persecutory emotional drama. There is no need to mention Christians in general science, archaeology, or anthropology class, unless they were digging under an old church.
 
marke said:
You don't want to teach truth if truth points to God but you are wrong for claiming lying evolution assumptions are true.
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The truth only points to your god if you have preconceived notions. If evolution is wrong then where are the facts that support your claims. I'm far from convinced that you know the difference between evolution and abiogenesis.
 
Lisa said:
There are no evolution professors, just as there are no heliocentric cosmology professors.

They would discuss the Piltdown man without your persecutory emotional drama. There is no need to mention Christians in general science, archaeology, or anthropology class, unless they were digging under an old church.
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The Piltdown Man hoax was designed by leading scientists, was published in science textbooks, and was taught in American schools as scientific fact for decades. Evolutionists are liars and some of them know it.
 
Lisa said:
The truth only points to your god if you have preconceived notions. If evolution is wrong then where are the facts that support your claims. I'm far from convinced that you know the difference between evolution and abiogenesis.
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Similarity in appearance does not demand assumptions of common ancestry in spite of what deluded Darwin surmised. Similarity in DNA does not demand assumptions of common ancestry in spite of what modern evolutionists think.
 
marke said:
Similarity in appearance does not demand assumptions of common ancestry in spite of what deluded Darwin surmised. Similarity in DNA does not demand assumptions of common ancestry in spite of what modern evolutionists think.
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He didn't - he noted how different groups of Finches are different species
Creationists assume this - they assume that anatomically similar elephants - like the African and Indian - are the same species

Creationists group creatures together because the behave similarly - which is why the Bible refers to a bat as a bird


Now Darwin didn't know about DNA so he may have regarded a species as being in a wrong group - I wouldn't know. Ultimately though it is his concept of common origins that is groundbreaking
DNA shows conclusively (or about as conclusive as you can get) that thee is common ancestry.
 
marke said:
Deluded Darwinists foolishly believe evolution is proven scientific fact. That is totally false. Evolution is contradicted by dozens of scientific evidences and facts.
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There is no such thing as a Darwinist.

Evolution is science fact - it's as close to proven as anything can be proven

DNA proves this - you don't even need Darwin - there are no examples of scientific evidence or your scientific "facts" that contradict Evolution

Want to know something that's utterly disproved - CREATION

...don't teach creationism and don't teach secularism or else teach both....
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Teach science at school

Teach religion in church with a HUGE fiction caveat.
 
marke said:
The Piltdown Man hoax was designed by leading scientists, was published in science textbooks, and was taught in American schools as scientific fact for decades. Evolutionists are liars and some of them know it.
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No, it wasn't designed by leading scientists. Drop the lies and try to tell the truth, even occasionally.
 
marke said:
Similarity in appearance does not demand assumptions of common ancestry in spite of what deluded Darwin surmised. Similarity in DNA does not demand assumptions of common ancestry in spite of what modern evolutionists think.
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DNA creates a genetic roadmap that you want to ignore because its conclusions are in opposition to your bible.
 
Rich2018 said:
There is no such thing as a Darwinist.

Evolution is science fact - it's as close to proven as anything can be proven

DNA proves this - you don't even need Darwin - there are no examples of scientific evidence or your scientific "facts" that contradict Evolution

Want to know something that's utterly disproved - CREATION



Teach science at school

Teach religion in church with a HUGE fiction caveat.
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They can teach about the Christian religion in public schools, as long as it is taught with the other religious myths of Zeus, Ra, Jupiter, and Thor.
 
Lisa said:
They can teach about the Christian religion in public schools, as long as it is taught with the other religious myths of Zeus, Ra, Jupiter, and Thor.
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I guess, but would you want your child to learn that ?

Teach that religion exists and dump it into the social studies class.
 
Rich2018 said:
I guess, but would you want your child to learn that?

Teach that religion exists and dump it into the social studies class.
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Yes, teach critical thinking in public high school as a graduation requirement.


All religions are equally mythical, despite what their various believers have been convinced of. If religion is taught in public high school then it has b to be taught as a 3rd party critical survey class with all religions receiving the same mention and none being endorsed in any form. It cannot be taught as a bible study class with non-Christian religious being criticized and the Christian religions being portrayed in a positive light.
 
Lisa said:
Yes, teach critical thinking in public high school as a graduation requirement.


All religions are equally mythical, despite what their various believers have been convinced of. If religion is taught in public high school then it has b to be taught as a 3rd party critical survey class with all religions receiving the same mention and none being endorsed in any form. It cannot be taught as a bible study class with non-Christian religious being criticized and the Christian religions being portrayed in a positive light.
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So dump it into social studies classes - if there's a specific religion class, I believe a parent should have the right to opt their child out of it.
 
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