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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Just because kids will pick up bad instructions from the gutters of society is no reason to think we should deliberately cram the specifics of gutter sex down their throats before they reach puberty.
    It's better to teach teens about sex, and to teach them how to have it safely, than for them to pick up unrealistic notions of it like in porn, or walk into it blind. Plus, to have them know how to properly consent, or say no when in an uncomfortable situation.

    Your abstinence screed, does absolutely nothing besides hiding the problem.
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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Homosexual sex is wrong. It is perverted and destructive. It should be considered a very bad thing for society.
    Awww.. I love me some homophobia. It's so adorable. It's like going to a 1950's museum
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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir View Post
    What's 'gutter sex'?
    Stuff Obama hired Kevin Jennings to teach to primary and secondary American school kids.

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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoverness View Post
    It's better to teach teens about sex, and to teach them how to have it safely, than for them to pick up unrealistic notions of it like in porn, or walk into it blind. Plus, to have them know how to properly consent, or say no when in an uncomfortable situation.

    Your abstinence screed, does absolutely nothing besides hiding the problem.
    Kids need to be taught safe sex. Sex outside of marriage is not safe and can lead to disease, psychological problems, behavioral problems and even sometimes, death

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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Stuff Obama hired Kevin Jennings to teach to primary and secondary American school kids.
    Huh. So you admit that you've never actually had sex and don't know how it works?

    OK. I can accept that.

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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Kids need to be taught safe sex. Sex outside of marriage is not safe and can lead to disease, psychological problems, behavioral problems and even sometimes, death
    Sex outside of marriage is perfectly safe. Plus, marriage is not some guarantee of sexual safety. You just need to know what how to do it safely, the boundries and limits, especially in regards to consent, and the protection options available (if need be).
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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Just because kids will pick up bad instructions from the gutters of society is no reason to think we should deliberately cram the specifics of gutter sex down their throats before they reach puberty.
    I'm not defending that. You seem to think any discussion about sex at all is pornography.

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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoverness View Post
    It's better to teach teens about sex, and to teach them how to have it safely, than for them to pick up unrealistic notions of it like in porn, or walk into it blind. Plus, to have them know how to properly consent, or say no when in an uncomfortable situation.

    Your abstinence screed, does absolutely nothing besides hiding the problem.
    I think it's important to teach them how to protect themselves from STDs. Some people think that STDs are punishment for lust.

    Such an approach is idiotic.

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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Evilroddy View Post
    TheEconomist:

    This response of yours can be read and understood two ways. Thus it is an ambiguous statement which needs clarification. Do you mean that there is no place in sexual education for agendas or that the problem is an absence of an agenda from the teaching of sexual education?

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    It can be considered ambiguous, though I am rather perplexed by your hesitation. In my experience, the kind of people who believe a political agenda should be pushed on children through education never quite put it that way. The normative aspect of the questions involved is brushed aside by these people, their vision is pushed forward. It is declared consensual and all disagreements are seen as the remnants of an antiquated way of being, a few last roots of evil that need to be stamped out of existence.

    I have profound disagreements with conservatives and religious people, but I don't think it gives me the right to impose my views on their children. And that is my only problem with sexual education. The government has no business telling kids what is morally acceptable or not, what should be tolerated or not, and what should be valued or not.

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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheEconomist View Post
    It can be considered ambiguous, though I am rather perplexed by your hesitation. In my experience, the kind of people who believe a political agenda should be pushed on children through education never quite put it that way. The normative aspect of the questions involved is brushed aside by these people, their vision is pushed forward. It is declared consensual and all disagreements are seen as the remnants of an antiquated way of being, a few last roots of evil that need to be stamped out of existence.

    I have profound disagreements with conservatives and religious people, but I don't think it gives me the right to impose my views on their children. And that is my only problem with sexual education. The government has no business telling kids what is morally acceptable or not, what should be tolerated or not, and what should be valued or not.
    TheEcnomist:

    The clarification was sought by me because I was not sure what your position was and was loathe to respond without greater certainty about what you meant.

    I have been teaching Human Biology including human sexuality and reproduction for over thirty years to Grade 9 students. The only two agendas which I am aware of having in my classroom are to ensure that my students fully understand how their bodies work and interact with others during sexual contacts at all levels of intensity and how to prevent unwanted and/or dangerous consequences from sexual behaviour, should they decide after reflection that they are ready for it. We do deal with what in America are "hot-button issues" but we do so with clinical restraint, with academic impartiality and with respect first for the student and their family and secondly for anyone else the student might speak to about the topics covered. We frankly discuss and learn about the emotions, the psychology, the interpersonal challenges and consequences, the social consequences, the biology and the pathology/epidemiology of all types of sexual behaviour and lay out the risks and rewards of choosing to engage in such behaviour clearly and without an agenda. We also cover what today is called non-binary relationships and sexual behaviour with the same clinical and dispassionate approach as more common sexual behaviour.

    The teaching is about information, understanding, understanding consequences and probabilities and developing the notion of risk management in these teenagers so that they can make informed and wiser decisions even when their passions are running high. At all times the students are encouraged to talk to family and to their peers and to ask questions both publicly in class or privately to either myself or to guidance counsellors. The teaching also covers the biology of human development, self-control, the biology of contraception, the biology of pregnancy, the demands child rearing and parenting, the biology and ethics of abortion and adoption.

    Cheers.
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