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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by noonereal View Post
    maybe you can find a rock to hide kids under?
    Read carefully what he is saying while asking yourself how a reasonable person could justify marke's objection to CSE. For reference, here is a line from his early statement:

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Leftist liberals see no problem with these goals of SEICUS and CSE, but these perversions being forced onto American kids will do great damage to the future soundness and security of the whole nation if not stopped by people with good sense and morals.
    I think he actually has a point, though some verbal cues in his statement might have prohibited many people from reading it with a cool mind. When someone on the right invokes concepts drawn from the lexicon of purity like "perversion," most people on the left immediately know they have to disagree. Actually, as every human being, they're not even aware of it.

    One thing Marke gets right is that the CSE does embody a certain social vision: it is not merely descriptive, but in fact normative. To some extent, calling these objectives "sexual education" hides the fact we're imposing a view of sexuality on all children nationwide, irrespective of the objections made by their parents or by religious communities. I am quite sure everyone who laughs at Marke here would be reacting quite like Marke if the content of the CSE was dictated by Christian doctrines instead of a libertine attitude toward sexuality. The important question that is left aside here, in other words, is who gets to decide what to teach children? Almost everyone on the left here, it seems, condones the government deciding on behalf of everyone how children should learn about sexuality, what kind of topics should be covered and what kinds of opinions are acceptable in this context.

    If we carefully reviewed the claims that sexual education reduces the prevalence of things both sides might agree are problems (say, teenage pregnancy and occurrence of sexually transmitted diseases), I would be surprised if the content of CSA irremediably helped in every aspect without fault. One thing Marke does point out and which is legitimate is that it does come with a message that tends to promote sexual activity. It's not obvious that if you increase sexual encounters, increase the number of partners and change the type of sexual activities by telling kids all of this is both natural and acceptable that also including a warning about wearing condoms is going to lead to a decrease in the aforementioned problem. That doesn't even take into account the possibility that any of these presumptions might turn out to be too simplistic, or just plain wrong. I am not sure you can reasonably assume you will get the effects you wish the program had. You would need empirical studies to make that claim, ideally work that you can tell is not sloppy.

    By the way, none of this means that I agree with Marke, as I generally have only a few bones to pick with the list of goals he listed on page 1 of this thread. I just think it is unfair to cast Marke in the role of the bad guy because you happen to dislike his point of view.

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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Oh look the use of "good people" to try to vilify anyone who doesn't agree with you, who might not want children to stay in the dark about sex.
    Laws against pedophilia are committed exactly to that, to keep children "in the dark about sex". Are they bad?

    Just because something exists it doesn't necessarily mean that children must experiment with it for educational purpose. What about those children who are not interested in sex and want nothing to do with it?
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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheEconomist View Post
    To some extent, calling these objectives "sexual education" hides the fact we're imposing a view of sexuality on all children nationwide, irrespective of the objections made by their parents or by religious communities.
    This is a good thing.

    We don't need each parent teach each kid a different myth

    how many different species of anti vaxxers can a country stand? Look at how the creationism dolts have set back our kids.
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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gus Fring View Post
    Laws against pedophilia are committed exactly to that, to keep children "in the dark about sex". Are they bad?
    This statement is two clown shoes stupid.
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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    The goals of CSE (government endorsed comprehensive sex education):

    1. Teach kids to masturbate.
    2. Teach kids to accept and explore diverse sexual orientations.
    3. Promote high risk sexual behaviors including anal and oral sex, and teach that such sex is safe and healthy.
    4. Teach kids how to achieve pleasure in sex.
    5. Teach kids that sexual promiscuity is good and is an individual right.
    6. Teach that abortion is good, is safe and has no negative consequences.
    7. Encourage kids to experiment with sex among their peers of both sexes.
    8. Teach kids of both sexes how to use condoms, why they are needed and do not inform them of failure rates.
    9. Teach kids that religious objections to sexual promiscuity and perversion are lies to be dismissed as harmful myths.
    10. Teach kids to disrespect parents who oppose sexual experimentation among kids or parents who promote Biblical objections to ungodly sexual activities.
    11. Teach kids to confide in school officials (without parental consent or knowledge) about sexual issues and abortion.
    12. Teach kids to pursue legal remedies against parents who oppose their sexual experimentation.

    StopCSE.org | How CSE Harms Children

    Leftist liberals see no problem with these goals of SEICUS and CSE, but these perversions being forced onto American kids will do great damage to the future soundness and security of the whole nation if not stopped by people with good sense and morals.
    Now where were these schools hiding while I was growing up?
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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    "It's the damndest thing I've ever seen."

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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheEconomist View Post
    I just think it is unfair to cast Marke in the role of the bad guy because you happen to dislike his point of view.
    I don't cast him as a bad guy at all. He's an angry guy. He's filled with impotent rage and he lashes out at everyone, then turns around and behaves like a persecuted victim.

    And if you don't agree with HIS views, you're going to Hell.
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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    For over forty years, the New Left -- a collection of Marxists, Stalinists, Trotskyites, Maoists, and anarchists have been waging a Gramscian style "quiet revolution" for the overthrow of Christianity and America's Constitution, Rule of Law, sovereignty, and way of life.


    Marxist Subversion & Perversion of American Youth
    Anarchists tend to hate tankies. I have no idea what that website is but it doesnt even look credible.

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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    The goals of CSE (government endorsed comprehensive sex education):

    1. Teach kids to masturbate.
    2. Teach kids to accept and explore diverse sexual orientations.
    3. Promote high risk sexual behaviors including anal and oral sex, and teach that such sex is safe and healthy.
    4. Teach kids how to achieve pleasure in sex.
    5. Teach kids that sexual promiscuity is good and is an individual right.
    6. Teach that abortion is good, is safe and has no negative consequences.
    7. Encourage kids to experiment with sex among their peers of both sexes.
    8. Teach kids of both sexes how to use condoms, why they are needed and do not inform them of failure rates.
    9. Teach kids that religious objections to sexual promiscuity and perversion are lies to be dismissed as harmful myths.
    10. Teach kids to disrespect parents who oppose sexual experimentation among kids or parents who promote Biblical objections to ungodly sexual activities.
    11. Teach kids to confide in school officials (without parental consent or knowledge) about sexual issues and abortion.
    12. Teach kids to pursue legal remedies against parents who oppose their sexual experimentation.

    StopCSE.org | How CSE Harms Children

    Leftist liberals see no problem with these goals of SEICUS and CSE, but these perversions being forced onto American kids will do great damage to the future soundness and security of the whole nation if not stopped by people with good sense and morals.
    Do you actually believe that crap? You think teachers are going out of their way to teach kids to "disrespect parents who oppose sexual experimentation among kids"? You really can't see that is complete ludicrous propaganda?
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    Re: What kind of twisted explicit sexual perversions are schools now teaching?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheEconomist View Post
    A pompous buffoon would cloak nonsense with jargon and provide their critique with an air of sophistication by drawing on unusual vocabulary. When you make insinuations about me, you should try to have something to back it up. I have nothing to hide behind big words. If you are confused, you can always ask me to rephrase my point.
    Arrogant buffoons should not accuse me of being arrogant. It reflects badly on them.

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