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Highly Religious Couples have a better Sex Life, survey finds.

I will also point out that the 'study' was done by a group whose reliability is not very well respected. If you go down the rabbit hole and trace the sources, it gets down to the 'Institute for Family Studies', It is rated 'highly conservative' , with a reliability of 'mixed' when it comes to facts. So, you got a high religious group that is reporting on a study whose reliability when it comes to facts is in question.

It might be true, but it does not come from a source that would be considered reliable. Due to that , I would rate it as 'oh, it's a feel good story to make someone who is religious feel good about it'. I personally try to reject sources that are that extreme one way or another, and have a poor reputation.

Hear, hear.
 
There also appears to be a slight J-Curve in overall relationship quality, which is interesting:

ifs-relationship-quality.jpg

Well religion as an object makes people intellectually captive to the religion. If you are to be married and to be happy with your spouse for life you but just tell yourself you that so as not to violate any religious dogma. Often times people will be dishonest with themselves in order to obey religion so if they're willing to be dishonest with themselves they're willing to be dishonest with anybody else.

I find any studies regarding this to be highly highly suspect.
 
How about this.

People are more likely to be religious when they have less sexual appetite and are looking for something else in life.

Then when they get sex once a year, they're happy with this. Whereas someone who craves sex all the time needs lots of difference in sex.

It's one of those things that doesn't mean very much at all.

I really don't think a fundamental religious couple would have a normal and positive sexual relationship, and that goes for fundamental people of all faiths. I personally know a lot of people with views on sex and birth control, that I would find stressful in marriage. If you can't use birth control but aren't ready for kids, I don't know how that could lead to a positive sexual relationship. Also, associating shame and sin with sex adds another layer of discomfort, and I know many, many religious people who do just that. Then add in, the views on abstinence only and fundamental kids not getting sex ed. I personally don't think that that is good or healthy, and those kids are often the ones getting pregnant in high school. It all goes back to an uneasiness in some religious families to talk about sex with their kids. Those teachings zero in on shame, blame, and attaching sex to self control and failure.

Look at Bristol Palin. She announced her second pregnancy like it was a tragedy, and she was so ashamed for herself. It's essentially teaching kids to be ashamed and embarrassed of sex and resulting unplanned pregnancies.

It's just not good to pass such teachings on to kids.
 
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unChristian, by which you mean.... ?

Spewing hate and intolerance and condemning people to Hell and even clearly objecting to/resenting God's Decision that all may be forgiven when they come to Him and ask. Also, openly wishing physical and emotional harm to come to people that dont agree with them.
 
I really don't think a fundamental religious couple would have a normal and positive sexual relationship, and that goes for fundamental people of all faiths. I personally know a lot of people with views on sex and birth control, that I would find stressful in marriage. If you can't use birth control but aren't ready for kids, I don't know how that could lead to a positive sexual relationship. Also, associating shame and sin with sex adds another layer of discomfort, and I know many, many religious people who do just that. Then add in, the views on abstinence only and fundamental kids not getting sex ed. I personally don't think that that is good or healthy, and those kids are often the ones getting pregnant in high school. It all goes back to an uneasiness in some religious families to talk about sex with their kids. Those teachings zero in on shame, blame, and attaching sex to self control and failure.

Look at Bristol Palin. She announced her second pregnancy like it was a tragedy, and she was so ashamed for herself. It's essentially teaching kids to be ashamed and embarrassed of sex and resulting unplanned pregnancies.

It's just not good to pass such teachings on to kids.

Yes. My point wasn't that religious people have good sex or not. It was about something else. Then the person I was replying to claimed religious people had good sex but couldn't back it up.

I did read a story about one religious woman who had such painful sex. She claimed it was because she'd essentially been taught that sex was bad and abstained until marriage and then this manifested itself in massive pain.

Another problem seems to be that religious people will marry much younger in order to have not have sex before marriage, and this can often put a strain on a relationship.

U.S. divorce rates: for various faith groups, age groups and geographical areas

" Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience."

Non denominational 34% divorce rate
Baptists 29%
Mainline protestants 25%
Mormons 24%
Catholics and Lutherans 21%
 
Yes. My point wasn't that religious people have good sex or not. It was about something else. Then the person I was replying to claimed religious people had good sex but couldn't back it up.

I did read a story about one religious woman who had such painful sex. She claimed it was because she'd essentially been taught that sex was bad and abstained until marriage and then this manifested itself in massive pain.

Another problem seems to be that religious people will marry much younger in order to have not have sex before marriage, and this can often put a strain on a relationship.

U.S. divorce rates: for various faith groups, age groups and geographical areas

" Divorce rates among conservative Christians were significantly higher than for other faith groups, and much higher than Atheists and Agnostics experience."

Non denominational 34% divorce rate
Baptists 29%
Mainline protestants 25%
Mormons 24%
Catholics and Lutherans 21%

It’s hard to back up religious people have the best sex. As I said, I don’t believe fundamentals have healthy attitudes towards sex. Then there is another issue in who is polled, and how they consider themselves to be really religious. Most Americans self identify as Christian but rarely go to church. Then there are others who go to church but aren’t really involved with God
 
It’s funny a Christian guy posted this thread, as if he is personally bragging or something
 
I am a Christian, and as far as I know, I've read through the Bible many times and I've never seen a single recorded instance of God saying married couples should be ashamed of sex and should only do it to procreate, and that enjoying it is a sin. He created sex, He is the one that made people's bodies the way they are. It would be silly if he thought enjoying it was a sin.

But we all know He created many laws around sex and how it should and shouldn't be done. The laws are meant for people's own good, as we all know sleeping around with 10 different people is bad for your health, and that studies show people who wait until marriage for sex are actually happier.

Waiting Works: Couples Who Wait Report 22% Happier Marriages (and Better Sex!) | WaitingTillMarriage.org

The why's shouldn't be too confusing. If you're looking for a happy relationship that you plan to make long term, or just the love of your life, you obviously shouldn't be giving them sex right away. I don't think they would feel very special if they got sex on the first day, and when they left, probably were thinking "Does he/she do that for every person they meet?"
Mark Gungor talks about this in his hilarious speech. It's two hours long, but well worth watching, even if you aren't a Christian and don't plan to be one. YouTube

The Bible is not afraid of sex whatsoever. It talks about it in good ways and bad ways. Songs of Solomon is a very positive sexual book in the bible, and Ezekiel chapter 16 is full of gruesome stuff about it. The laws are meant to make sure people have sex the right way, with the right person - to ensure you have a better sex life.

If you don't want to watch the full two hour version, here's a shorter video straight to the point by Mark Gungor. YouTube
 
Moral of the story is, people who think they know everything about their religion probably don't. People can say they are Christians and bash sex, but that's not what the God they worship says. They are mistaken. They can also be mean rude people, but that doesn't mean the religion is bad. It just means the people are bad.
 
I am a Christian, and as far as I know, I've read through the Bible many times and I've never seen a single recorded instance of God saying married couples should be ashamed of sex and should only do it to procreate, and that enjoying it is a sin. He created sex, He is the one that made people's bodies the way they are. It would be silly if he thought enjoying it was a sin.

But we all know He created many laws around sex and how it should and shouldn't be done. The laws are meant for people's own good, as we all know sleeping around with 10 different people is bad for your health, and that studies show people who wait until marriage for sex are actually happier.

Waiting Works: Couples Who Wait Report 22% Happier Marriages (and Better Sex!) | WaitingTillMarriage.org

The why's shouldn't be too confusing. If you're looking for a happy relationship that you plan to make long term, or just the love of your life, you obviously shouldn't be giving them sex right away. I don't think they would feel very special if they got sex on the first day, and when they left, probably were thinking "Does he/she do that for every person they meet?"
Mark Gungor talks about this in his hilarious speech. It's two hours long, but well worth watching, even if you aren't a Christian and don't plan to be one. YouTube

The Bible is not afraid of sex whatsoever. It talks about it in good ways and bad ways. Songs of Solomon is a very positive sexual book in the bible, and Ezekiel chapter 16 is full of gruesome stuff about it. The laws are meant to make sure people have sex the right way, with the right person - to ensure you have a better sex life.

If you don't want to watch the full two hour version, here's a shorter video straight to the point by Mark Gungor. YouTube

Frankly, it doesn't look like you are using good sources at all for well, facts. They are biased with a right out front agenda. I would not trust them with facts.
 
Dissatisfaction across the board.

Thanks monogamy.
 
Churches provide alot of activities that families participate in together, and also have counseling resources. Provides a good support network for couples.

I disagree with degrees of religious being equated with church attendance tho. I know people who attend church more than once a week every week. People who read the Bible all the time. People here on the forum that claim to be very religious. Forget it, they are some of the most 'unChristian' people I can think of. (Sorry, Christianity is where I have my most common shared experience.)

I think the problem is with your definition of “Christian” I’ve found most people who accuse others of being unchristian are usually heretics accusing the truly faithful because they don’t support a liberal political agenda
 
I think the problem is with your definition of “Christian” I’ve found most people who accuse others of being unchristian are usually heretics accusing the truly faithful because they don’t support a liberal political agenda

The problem is with so-called Christians who spew hate and intolerance and demonstrate clear glee at what they anticipate will be the fate of gays, women who have abortions, and generally, anyone who doesnt agree with 'their interpretation' of the Lord's Word. (I have not seen this in you).

Such people are not remotely spreading God's Word, which is peace, brotherly love, compassion, and forgiveness.

My parents were good Christians. They stayed together until my father passed, 59 yrs of marriage. A good marriage and many volunteer Christian acts, including taking sick children into their homes from other countries, including Muslims, and put up their families while their children had operations here that could not be had in their home countries. My parents actually lived a good Christian lifestyle, every day.

Parents who when I went off to college, started taking in special needs foster children and ended up adopting 2. They harbored no hate. When my cousin came out, my father's favorite nephew, he was surprised and a bit confused, but he loved my cousin, told anyone who'd ask, til the day he (my father) died.

So I do know what it looks like.
 
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The problem is with so-called Christians who spew hate and intolerance and demonstrate clear glee at what they anticipate will be the fate of gays, women who have abortions, and generally, anyone who doesnt agree with 'their interpretation' of the Lord's Word. (I have not seen this in you).

Such people are not remotely spreading God's Word, which is peace, brotherly love, compassion, and forgiveness.

My parents were good Christians. They stayed together until my father passed, 59 yrs of marriage. A good marriage and many volunteer Christian acts, including taking sick children into their homes from other countries, including Muslims, and put up their families while their children had operations here that could not be had in their home countries. My parents actually lived a good Christian lifestyle, every day.

Parents who when I went off to college, started taking in special needs foster children and ended up adopting 2. They harbored no hate. When my cousin came out, my father's favorite nephew, he was surprised and a bit confused, but he loved my cousin, told anyone who'd ask, til the day he (my father) died.

So I do know what it looks like.

It brings me no glee whatsoever to say it, but if you have had an abortion or are living in a same sex sexual relationship you are in a state of mortal sin and will be condemned when you die, unless you repent. These positions are supported by scripture. I don’t know who does say this with glee, but regardless of someone’s motivations, they are right from a Christian point of view. It is not compassion to tell someone they’ve done nothing wrong when their acts if not repented of will lead to their eternal condemnation

The problem I see is, too many “Christians” really are secular humanists with a Christian veneer on the outside. The truth is being a good compassionate liberal is not what saves your soul. Jesus said that you must be baptized, you must eat the flesh of the son of man, you must have faith, and you must do the will of his father in heaven. None of these involve being compassionate in a modern sense of the word.
 
It brings me no glee whatsoever to say it, but if you have had an abortion or are living in a same sex sexual relationship you are in a state of mortal sin and will be condemned when you die, unless you repent. These positions are supported by scripture. I don’t know who does say this with glee, but regardless of someone’s motivations, they are right from a Christian point of view. It is not compassion to tell someone they’ve done nothing wrong when their acts if not repented of will lead to their eternal condemnation

The problem I see is, too many “Christians” really are secular humanists with a Christian veneer on the outside. The truth is being a good compassionate liberal is not what saves your soul. Jesus said that you must be baptized, you must eat the flesh of the son of man, you must have faith, and you must do the will of his father in heaven. None of these involve being compassionate in a modern sense of the word.

A person can always ask forgiveness. It's acceptable to ask forgiveness for making the best decision you could at the time. The Lord understands that the well-being of others is important too. Making a very difficult decision doesnt mean the decision is wrong. Abortion isnt even condemned in the Bible but it does have passages that directly value the woman over the unborn. We have to make tough decisions all thru life, doesnt make 'em wrong. And the Lord sees that.

And some of that stuff you write is Catholic BS...I am no less a Christian because I dont confess my sins to some guy behind a screen or take communion anymore.
 
A person can always ask forgiveness. It's acceptable to ask forgiveness for making the best decision you could at the time. The Lord understands that the well-being of others is important too. Making a very difficult decision doesnt mean the decision is wrong. Abortion isnt even condemned in the Bible but it does have passages that directly value the woman over the unborn. We have to make tough decisions all thru life, doesnt make 'em wrong. And the Lord sees that.

And some of that stuff you write is Catholic BS...I am no less a Christian because I dont confess my sins to some guy behind a screen or take communion anymore.

There is no verse that permits abortion and scripture makes it clear that someone is a human being before physical birth. Your interpretation is based on you looking for false teachers willing to lie to you and tell you what you want to hear. I’ve looked up this group that you and Minnie always cite for pro-abortion scriptural support and they are roundly rejected by the Christian community at large as heretics.

God does not forgive you “for making the best decision you could at the time” the fact is unjust killing is never the best decision and justifying a crime using terms like that means you’re not truly repentant.

So again, you’re talking as though you’re really a secular liberal heretic And this is why your original commment is one I opposed, because as I’ve observed. I will not call you not truly a Christian (heretics are baptized and professed Christians who hold wrong beliefs, an avowed non Christian cannot be a heretic) but your beliefs place you far outside Christian (and not just Catholic, the vast majority of Protestants would agree with me) orthodoxy and show a massive misunderstanding of scripture
 
There also appears to be a slight J-Curve in overall relationship quality, which is interesting:

Would that be a Jimmy Swaggart or Jim Bakker kind of religious? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
A person can always ask forgiveness. It's acceptable to ask forgiveness for making the best decision you could at the time. The Lord understands that the well-being of others is important too. Making a very difficult decision doesnt mean the decision is wrong. Abortion isnt even condemned in the Bible but it does have passages that directly value the woman over the unborn. We have to make tough decisions all thru life, doesnt make 'em wrong. And the Lord sees that.

And some of that stuff you write is Catholic BS...I am no less a Christian because I dont confess my sins to some guy behind a screen or take communion anymore.

In the corporate culture there the saying: "It's easier to ask forgiveness than ask permission." I will just say this: A child is a gift, irrespective of the circumstances. Why throw that away?
 
There is no verse that permits abortion and scripture makes it clear that someone is a human being before physical birth. Your interpretation is based on you looking for false teachers willing to lie to you and tell you what you want to hear. I’ve looked up this group that you and Minnie always cite for pro-abortion scriptural support and they are roundly rejected by the Christian community at large as heretics.

God does not forgive you “for making the best decision you could at the time” the fact is unjust killing is never the best decision and justifying a crime using terms like that means you’re not truly repentant.

So again, you’re talking as though you’re really a secular liberal heretic And this is why your original commment is one I opposed, because as I’ve observed. I will not call you not truly a Christian (heretics are baptized and professed Christians who hold wrong beliefs, an avowed non Christian cannot be a heretic) but your beliefs place you far outside Christian (and not just Catholic, the vast majority of Protestants would agree with me) orthodoxy and show a massive misunderstanding of scripture

If you ask forgiveness, repent, He does forgive you. That is His Promise. You ask forgiveness, knowing you made the best decision at the time.

And there is a scripture that specifically places the value of the woman above that of the unborn...it has to do with damages for killing both. I dont have it handy. But...it's God's Word in scripture.
 
In the corporate culture there the saying: "It's easier to ask forgiveness than ask permission." I will just say this: A child is a gift, irrespective of the circumstances. Why throw that away?

That's your opinion. Nine months of pain and sickness for a kid you cant afford or that endangers the rest of your family's security is no gift.
 
That's your opinion. Nine months of pain and sickness for a kid you cant afford or that endangers the rest of your family's security is no gift.

Where there's a will there's a way. If women manage to raise children is the poorest of slums in the third world, raising one in the USA should be considered very achievable.
 
There also appears to be a slight J-Curve in overall relationship quality, which is interesting:

ifs-relationship-quality.jpg

Based on 9,566 interviews in 11 countries. (No gays) I'll reserve judgement. LOL
 
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