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[W:517] Sexual Hypocrisy

Bodhisattva said:
Sexual objectification is great and everybody not wearing a burka does it too...
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"Sexual objectification is great and everybody...does it." Some try not to do it and some do it with more imagination than others.
Not only is sexual objectification "great," but it is necessary and natural and in a very real sense what life is all about.
Kudos NZ!
 
devildavid said:
Still no examples of this in American culture.
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Clear your mind of rutabagas, David, and think back to 1979 and try to remember what it was like in that darkened movie theater, tongue picking the popcorn from your teeth, wide-eyed and wondering at the images of Bo on the big screen.

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OP argues that systemic commercial exploitation of female celebrities means other, less famous women have no right to complain about individual personal exploitation. Presents this as some kind of profound insight.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
OP argues that systemic commercial exploitation of female celebrities means other, less famous women have no right to complain about individual personal exploitation. Presents this as some kind of profound insight.
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Not quite. But thanks for stopping by.
 
Angel said:
Clear your mind of rutabagas, David, and think back to 1979 and try to remember what it was like in that darkened movie theater, tongue picking the popcorn from your teeth, wide-eyed and wondering at the images of Bo on the big screen.

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Never was interested in her or her movies. Still waiting for examples of the sexual hypocrisy of American culture.
 
Angel's Top 20
Hollywood Sex Symbols
on Parade

The Fifties: Baby Boom Va-Va-Voom

#12

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Playboy's first cover girl and first "Sweetheart of the Month" in December 1953

Marilyn Monroe

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Glorification or Objectification?




#20 Clara Bow
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-11.html#post1070126612
#19 Louise Brooks
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-12.html#post1070129726
#18 Jean Harlow
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-16.html#post1070134570
#17 Marlene Dietrich
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-19.html#post1070146716
#16 Dorothy Lamour
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-20.html#post1070150130
#15 Betty Grable
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-21.html#post1070157530
#14 Jane Russell
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-22.html#post1070164436
#13 Jayne Mansfield
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-23.html#post1070169165
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devildavid said:
Still no examples of this in American culture.
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devildavid said:
...Still waiting for examples of the sexual hypocrisy of American culture.
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The thread is littered with examples. Read and think instead of waiting for what is already given. Meanwhile, enjoy the fresh air here in this forum.
 
devildavid said:
...Additionally, there are different degrees of objectification in media....
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And what "degree of objectification" do you calculate in this now-legendary news photo taken by a photojournalist at a Paramount dinner party in 1957?

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Angel said:
The thread is littered with examples. Read and think instead of waiting for what is already given. Meanwhile, enjoy the fresh air here in this forum.
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You have provided no examples at all. Pictures of attractive women are not examples of hypocrisy
 
devildavid said:
You have provided no examples at all. Pictures of attractive women are not examples of hypocrisy
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At this point I can no longer underwrite your lack of understanding of the topic, David. You're on your own.
 
The Running Joke

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For decades, through the whole era of sexual liberation and beyond:

"I read Playboy for the articles."

Usually accompanied, fore or aft, by a brisk clearing of the throat.

The Running Joke​
 
Angel said:
The thread is littered with examples. Read and think instead of waiting for what is already given. Meanwhile, enjoy the fresh air here in this forum.
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This thread is litter.
 
devildavid said:
Hey guys, getcha girlie pictures here!
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Like your self-revelatory post #54, your use of the term "girlie pictures" tells us that your lack of understanding of the OP thesis is willful and without pith.
Your motivation, however, unless the contrarian one I suspect, remains obscure.
 
Angel said:
Like your self-revelatory post #54, your use of the term "girlie pictures" tells us that your lack of understanding of the OP thesis is willful and without pith.
Your motivation, however, unless the contrarian one I suspect, remains obscure.
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Just telling it like it is. How about some more enlightening girlie pictures? I really get all hot and bothered by their hypocrisy.
 
Angel's Top 20
Hollywood Sex Symbols
on Parade

The Sixties: Make Love Not War

#11

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"Being a sex symbol was rather like being a convict. The mind is an erogenous zone."

Raquel Welch

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Glorification or Objectification?




#20 Clara Bow
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-11.html#post1070126612
#19 Louise Brooks
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-12.html#post1070129726
#18 Jean Harlow
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-16.html#post1070134570
#17 Marlene Dietrich
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-19.html#post1070146716
#16 Dorothy Lamour
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-20.html#post1070150130
#15 Betty Grable
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-21.html#post1070157530
#14 Jane Russell
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-22.html#post1070164436
#13 Jayne Mansfield
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-23.html#post1070169165
#12 Marilyn Monroe
https://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-and-sexuality/357115-sexual-hypocrisy-24.html#post1070176581​
 
devildavid said:
Just telling it like it is. How about some more enlightening girlie pictures? I really get all hot and bothered by their hypocrisy.
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Your posts contradict themselves:

a. Some of your posts deny objectification.
b. Some of your posts complain of objectification.

Self-contradiction is the general form of hypocrisy.
Therefore, your own posts make the case for the OP.
 
Angel said:
Your posts contradict themselves:

a. Some of your posts deny objectification.
b. Some of your posts complain of objectification.

Self-contradiction is the general form of hypocrisy.
Therefore, your own posts make the case for the OP.
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Not even close.

But keep those examples hypocrisy coming!

Hey! Look! A picture of hypocrisy!
 
devildavid said:
So are yours. I'm fine with my record.
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Sure.
First you fail to grasp the meaning of "objectify."
Then you fail to grasp the concept of the "male gaze."
Then you deny the sexual hypocrisy in American culture.
All of the above even as you enjoy and complain about the sexual objectification contained in "girlie pictures."

Quite a record!
 
devildavid said:
...But keep those examples hypocrisy coming!

Hey! Look! A picture of hypocrisy!
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Your posts make the OP case.

America's Sexual Hypocrisy Addiction
But Americans of all genders are sexual hypocrites. For many of the major issues that Gallup tracks, American sexual behaviors are drastically at odds with American sexual beliefs. As a society, we often wag our collective fingers at porn viewers, sexually active teens, cheaters, and the promiscuous but, statistically speaking, we’re only chastising ourselves.
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/americas-sexual-hypocrisy-addiction
 
Angel said:
Sure.
First you fail to grasp the meaning of "objectify."
Then you fail to grasp the concept of the "male gaze."
Then you deny the sexual hypocrisy in American culture.
All of the above even as you enjoy and complain about the sexual objectification contained in "girlie pictures."

Quite a record!
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You fail to present any example of how Ameican culture, in general, is hypocritical about sex. How is both the promotion of and deploring of sex coming from the same source?
 
Trivial Hypocrisy

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The above is a detail of a promotional ad from back in the Sixties.​

Was that ad for:

A. an adults-only movie
B. a mainstream slapstick comedy
C. an anti-pornography campaign
D. the Women's Liberation movement
E. None of the above
 
Hint

She was eighteen years from her Miracle in Macy's Herald Square.
 
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