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Cancer and Oral sex

bearpoker said:
Teen pregnancy isn't "wrong" it's just difficult. Teens are still legally children themselves. They don't have full civil rights.
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That varies from state to state. In Texas if a 17 year old girl has a baby she is considered an adult.

They don't have their own wealth in most cases. They aren't able to support themselves or their children. They may want to be parents, but the responsibility of parenthood will rest with the grandparents till the teens achieve majority.
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I don't have a problem with that.
I certainly do not agree with shaming pregnant girls, and I'm glad that we've gotten away from that as a culture, but that does not mean that I think teens should be parents just because they might think it's a good idea.
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I'm not saying it is. I just don't understand the negative connotations. There are other factors that make problems with it but I'm not really focusing on that. We can discuss them if you wish, but it might be good for another thread.
 
CLAX1911 said:
I'll trust my opinion over the opinion expressed on Wikipedia.





A link to what? How prevalent dies it have to be? What are you talking about?
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Suit yourself.
 
lurchadams said:
Suit yourself.
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Well the idea that police are unsympathetic to victims seems far fetched to me. I know people like to think they only get into it for the power but there isn't really much power involved, so I don't trust that assessment. Sure there are crooked police officers, but most people get into it to help people like victims of rape.
 
RamFel said:
My point is that if oral sex is dangerous, then we should stop doing it. At least that much should be obvious.
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Everything is dangerous.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Is this something in adults can be vaccinated for?
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OldFatGuy said:
Yes. Speak with your doctor. I believe you first need be tested for presence of HPV or antibodies. If you carry, it is too late, if antibodies exist, no need. Some have antibodies passed from parents, usually mother's breast milk. However, like other virulent viruses, it can hide dormant within the system indefinitely, before poking its ugly head up. Specific proteins found in the blood can declare its presence, even when dormant, at times. No 100% efficacy tests. And HPV is not protected against with condom use. Medical science is not 100% certain as to how the virus is passed when sex is not involved. This is why the inoculation is so important for young children who are obviously not yet sexually active.
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RAMOSS said:
You have to be uninfected, most adults are infected with one form or another of hpv. (It doesn't have to be sexually transmitted)
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This statement - "You need to be uninfected in order to get the HPV" - is untrue.

Both the 1st and 2nd generation HPV vaccines protect against multiple strains of the HPV virus; and neither of them protects against all 150 known strains of the HPV virus.
If you've gotten one strain, it does not mean that you've gotten them all or are disqualified from getting the vaccine.

This is mentioned by the CDC in this page in one of the paragraphs: HPV Vaccine Information For Young Women

Secondly, when Merck decided to first get indication for Garasil, it decided to only pursue it for 'cancer prevention' as a result of acquiring HPV. The company did not seek indication for prevention of HPV as an STD, in and of itself. Which is why the vaccine was only recommend for young people. Older people would've missed the cancer boat already in acquiring one form of HPV or another and still having 40+ years left of their life for cancer to potentially emerge.

However Merck has now sought and gained indication for prevention of cancer prevention and genital warts and lesions, which has broaden the recommendation from just adolescents to both men and women up to the age of 45.

This is mentioned in the revised indications on the FDA's website: Gardasil 9
 
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brothern said:
This statement - "You need to be uninfected in order to get the HPV" - is untrue.

Both the 1st and 2nd generation HPV vaccines protect against multiple strains of the HPV virus; and neither of them protects against all 150 known strains of the HPV virus.
If you've gotten one strain, it does not mean that you've gotten them all or are disqualified from getting the vaccine.

This is mentioned by the CDC in this page in one of the paragraphs: HPV Vaccine Information For Young Women

Secondly, when Merck decided to first get indication for Garasil, it decided to only pursue it for 'cancer prevention' as a result of acquiring HPV. The company did not seek indication for prevention of HPV as an STD, in and of itself. Which is why the vaccine was only recommend for young people. Older people would've missed the cancer boat already in acquiring one form of HPV or another.

However Merck has now sought and gained indication for prevention of genital warts and lesions, and cancer prevention, which has broaden the recommendation from just adolescents to both men and women up to the age of 45.

This is mentioned in the revised indications on the FDA's website: Gardasil 9
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Thank you for that information.
 
RAMOSS said:
Thank you for that information.
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Also, you are totally right that HPV can be transmitted non-sexually and that the majority of adults are infected with one strain or another.
Commons warts on hands/feet and plantar warts are both caused by a strain of HPV, for example.
 
Carjosse said:
So by that logic all sex should be avoided. We should also stop driving cars, cooking, drinking alcohol, smoking, showering, and many other things we do everyday.
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Why wasnt this: /thread?
 
Response to your question...
 
RamFel said:
I came across this little bit of information about a possible connection (and a cost) to cancer and oral sex. Here it is, from actor Michael Douglas:

Michael Douglas at DuckDuckGo


Michael Douglas: oral sex caused my cancer
[Search domain www.theguardian.com/film/2013/jun/02/michael-douglas-oral-sex-cancer] Michael Douglas: oral sex caused my cancer | Film | The Guardian
Jun 02, 2013 · Michael Douglas - the star of Basic Instinct and Fatal Attraction - has revealed that his throat cancer was apparently caused by performing oral sex. In a surprisingly frank interview with the ...
Michael Douglas
Michael Kirk Douglas is an American actor and producer. Douglas's career includes a diverse range of films in the independent and blockbuster genres, for which he has received a number of accolades, both competitive and honorary. These awards include the Golden Globe Cecil B.Wikipedia
Born:Michael Kirk Douglas, Sept 25, 1944, New Brunswick, New Jersey, U.S.
Residence:Los Angeles, California, U.S.
Nationality:American

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Douglas is also a longtime smoker, and was at one time a heavy drinker -- both behaviors are risk factors for throat cancer.

HPV is also a possible cause. HPV is a often undetected, but if a person is vaccinated for it, it CANNOT be a contributing factor.

But then you have to believe in vaccinations.

Douglas actually had HPV induced tongue cancer which is 95% treatable when caught early.

Cunnilingus in its self does not cause cancer.
 
HPV can be gotten from simply sharing a tooth brush or having an open wound and touching a surface that has it. Oral sex itself doesn't cause HPV and HPV can be caught from natural sex.
 
I can't see this topic without thinking of this bit from Sunny in Philadelphia.



I have no idea how she said that with a straight face.
 
RamFel said:
My point is that if oral sex is dangerous, then we should stop doing it. At least that much should be obvious.
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Don't be alarmed, but you should turn off your computer right this instant and await further instruction.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Mine would probably just laugh and say, "In your dreams, big boy."
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I mistakenly joked about a threesome with a childhood friend of my wife's who is built like Paul Bunyan, and she is a professional woman wrestler. With a straight face, my wife told me her friend preferred short men, and then aimed a kick toward where it would hurt the most. I turned just in time, and could barely walk for a week. A year or so later we attended her friend's second wedding. Her new husband was a foot shorter than her at 5'2" with lifts in his shoes. I never met her first husband, but if he was short as the second, her two daughters have mom's genes.
 
RamFel said:
My point is that if oral sex is dangerous, then we should stop doing it. At least that much should be obvious.
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Why? I will soon no longer be responsible for any minor children. Even if it kills me, at least I die happy. I do a hell of a lot more than oral sex with those I have never met before in my life. Furthermore, I don't regret a bit of it.
 
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